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Kinda funny that his name and number are just off [[Tom-B292]]. Heh. //--[[User:Teh Krush|TehK]] <small>([[User talk:Teh Krush|tok]])</small> 21:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
Kinda funny that his name and number are just off [[Tom-B292]]. Heh. //--[[User:Teh Krush|TehK]] <small>([[User talk:Teh Krush|tok]])</small> 21:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)


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==What planet?==
==What planet?==


I'm confused on information. I was previously under the impression that the Reach Campaign starts before the actual attack on Reach, and displays some of the events leading up to it. I thought that the huge explosion at the end of the VGA Awards trailer was just for dramatic effect. Thom didn't die on Reach, a replacement wouldn't have been sent then. However the VGA Awards trailer seemed to show that the replacement was during the battle. Did Thom die on Reach, or was it on some other planet? ----[[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:maroon; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''Si3rra'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:darkgrey; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''o51'''</span>]] File:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 19:03, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
I'm confused on information. I was previously under the impression that the Reach Campaign starts before the actual attack on Reach, and displays some of the events leading up to it. I thought that the huge explosion at the end of the VGA Awards trailer was just for dramatic effect. Thom didn't die on Reach, a replacement wouldn't have been sent then. However the VGA Awards trailer seemed to show that the replacement was during the battle. Did Thom die on Reach, or was it on some other planet? ----[[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:maroon; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''Si3rra'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:darkgrey; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''o51'''</span>]] [[Image:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 19:03, July 15, 2010 (UTC)


:He died around March. Are you sure this extra SPARTAN isn't one of the Noble team backups? We do know that other 'special' S-IIIs were moved into Noble team from their own specialist groups as replacements.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 21:31, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
:He died around March. Are you sure this extra SPARTAN isn't one of the Noble team backups? We do know that other 'special' S-IIIs were moved into Noble team from their own specialist groups as replacements.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 21:31, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
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:I thought it was Noble Six.'''[[User:Captain Michael-P452|<font color="silver">Captain Michael-P452</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Captain Michael-P452|<font color="lightgreen">Reporting for duty.</font>]]</sup>''' 01:59, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
:I thought it was Noble Six.'''[[User:Captain Michael-P452|<font color="silver">Captain Michael-P452</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Captain Michael-P452|<font color="lightgreen">Reporting for duty.</font>]]</sup>''' 01:59, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
It ain't, it's Thom. Kat still has her arm in the trailer and and well all know full well what happened to Six! (Regarding the armor, though, that similarity COULD be why Carter and Kat were being so frosty to Six at the beginning...) [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:07, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
It ain't, it's Thom. Kat still has her arm in the trailer and and well all know full well what happened to Six! (Regarding the armor, though, that similarity COULD be why Carter and Kat were being so frosty to Six at the beginning...) [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:07, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
:As I said on old Halopedia:
:The ad has two readings - symbolic, and canonical. Symbolically, it sums up the desperate fight for Reach, the tragedies that Noble team go through, and the fact that not everyone (read: anyone) is coming home from this. Canonically, it serves as backstory, a bit of leadup to the events just before Reach, showing the man whose shoes Six is stepping in to fill. I think the ad works on both levels. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:12, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
==Spartan-III?==
I was wondering if it was ever stated that Thom was specifically a Spartan-III? The Spartan tags on Bungie.net were ambiguous (S-052, S-259, S-320...). While more information was revealed for the most significant Spartans (namely those featured in the game), Thom's origin remains a mystery. For all we know, he could have been a Spartan-II (his tag is still lower than Ralph's one, well Ralph is hardly a good comparison but there's still an undisclosed reason for the existence of such high tags...), or maybe even a Spartan-II from class 2, like Nicole. And it's the same for Rosenda, whose tag may be accurate for a class 2 Spartan-II. Having both Spartan-IIs and IIIs in Noble Team doesn't seem problematic, first there's Jorge, and second, on Bungie.net it's said that the new Noble Six could have been a Spartan-II but they were all unavailable. It's usually accepted as a fact that Jorge is the only Spartan-II in the team, but that's mainly from the game's perspective, I think. I may have missed something in which it's specifically said that both Thom and Rosenda were Spartan-IIIs, so if you have anything about that, add it as a source in the article. If not, maybe there should be a conjecture template or something like that. Edit: I forgot to mention that I don't have the revised edition of the Encyclopedia and the Reach strategy guide, so maybe you could check them to see if it's mentioned. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 17:01, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
:Well, the concept art for Thom looks younger than Jorge's and fits in nicely with the rest of the Spartan-IIIs, so it is unlikely that he's a Spartan graduate of 2525. Bungie does not consider I Love Bees as canon (unlike 343i), so he is unlikely a Spartan graduate of 2536. According to the development sheet for Jorge shown in PAX 2010, Jorge is the only member in the team stated to be "older than the rest of the team and remembers earlier battles and stories of his former life as a Spartan-II." "Older" in this context would carry the meaning of being decades apart from the rest of the members I would say. All in all, the only choice left is him being a Spartan-III. — [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 00:27, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation for his tag is that he's a Spartan-III on a primarily Spartan-III team, as opposed to a Spartan-II with an unexplained higher tag or from a rather obscure second class. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 01:45, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
:Yeah right, maybe I was trying to exploit this possibility for his origin a bit too much. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 09:42, 24 July 2013 (EDT)

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