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I can't help but feel that the Spartans seen in Lone Wolf were meant more as an easter egg than as actual representations of dead Spartans. The fact that their armor is randomly generated would suggest that they're not meant to be characters. My feeling is that it's just Bungie's way of showing off the different types of armor players can buy if they just keep playing and earning cR. --[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 23:20, 26 December 2010 (EST) | I can't help but feel that the Spartans seen in Lone Wolf were meant more as an easter egg than as actual representations of dead Spartans. The fact that their armor is randomly generated would suggest that they're not meant to be characters. My feeling is that it's just Bungie's way of showing off the different types of armor players can buy if they just keep playing and earning cR. --[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 23:20, 26 December 2010 (EST) | ||
:That is certainly possible, but there hasn't been any indication that they were intended as easter eggs (unlike the BOBs for example). I think it's more likely they were put in to show that Noble Team wasn't the only group of SPARTANS to fight and die during the battle, plus to kind of drive home the hopelessness of the situation. But anyway, unless we can get a confirmation either way, I think it's safer to assume they represent an actual KIA SPARTAN unit. [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 00:05, 27 December 2010 (EST) | :That is certainly possible, but there hasn't been any indication that they were intended as easter eggs (unlike the BOBs for example). I think it's more likely they were put in to show that Noble Team wasn't the only group of SPARTANS to fight and die during the battle, plus to kind of drive home the hopelessness of the situation. But anyway, unless we can get a confirmation either way, I think it's safer to assume they represent an actual KIA SPARTAN unit. [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 00:05, 27 December 2010 (EST) | ||
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But look how much their armor changes, as well as the fact that they and you reference seven by numbering fourteen. They seem far more likely to be symbolic and there's virtually no information that we can get on them. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 13:17, 10 January 2011 (EST) | But look how much their armor changes, as well as the fact that they and you reference seven by numbering fourteen. They seem far more likely to be symbolic and there's virtually no information that we can get on them. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 13:17, 10 January 2011 (EST) | ||
:I agree; they seem much more representational of fallen Spartans in general rather than a specific unit of Spartans. I was always under the impression that the dead Spartans are symbolic of Noble Six dying among her/his comrades and should not be taken literally - hence the random armour. - | :I agree; they seem much more representational of fallen Spartans in general rather than a specific unit of Spartans. I was always under the impression that the dead Spartans are symbolic of Noble Six dying among her/his comrades and should not be taken literally - hence the random armour. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="green">('''Talk''')</font>]] 15:04, 10 January 2011 (EST) | ||
::About the variety and complexity in armor configuration, is it possible that they are a Spartan 3 unit, kinda like a Noble team. Saying that the bodies are to be counted as canon at all and not just like mentioned above symbolism, for all the Spartans who died on reach. --[[User talk:RussellofSwinhart|RussellofSwinhart]] 02:09, 27 July 2011 (EDT) | ::About the variety and complexity in armor configuration, is it possible that they are a Spartan 3 unit, kinda like a Noble team. Saying that the bodies are to be counted as canon at all and not just like mentioned above symbolism, for all the Spartans who died on reach. --[[User talk:RussellofSwinhart|RussellofSwinhart]] 02:09, 27 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
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The bodies exist, but the fact that their armor is always random highlights that they're not meant to be deceased individuals. You don't randomize the armor of what supposed to be canonical Spartans. The most the bodies do is provide a [[seven]] reference when Six himself is killed and becomes the 14th dead Spartan there, and that seven page more than proves that Bungie loves putting in gratuitous symbolism. They're just meant to represent the general Spartans that have fallen with the Fall of Reach, like [[Beta Red]], since there's nowhere to include their bodies elsewhere.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:36, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | The bodies exist, but the fact that their armor is always random highlights that they're not meant to be deceased individuals. You don't randomize the armor of what supposed to be canonical Spartans. The most the bodies do is provide a [[seven]] reference when Six himself is killed and becomes the 14th dead Spartan there, and that seven page more than proves that Bungie loves putting in gratuitous symbolism. They're just meant to represent the general Spartans that have fallen with the Fall of Reach, like [[Beta Red]], since there's nowhere to include their bodies elsewhere.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:36, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Their appearances vary each gameplay. [[Thom Shephard|Sounds]] [[Samuel N. Marcus|familiar]] [[Travis|with]] [[Paranoid Marine|some]] [[M. Fitzgerald|canon]] [[Chips Dubbo|characters]]? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[ | :Their appearances vary each gameplay. [[Thom Shephard|Sounds]] [[Samuel N. Marcus|familiar]] [[Travis|with]] [[Paranoid Marine|some]] [[M. Fitzgerald|canon]] [[Chips Dubbo|characters]]? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:51, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
During ''Combat Evolved'' a lot of the NPCs weren't set as characters yet. It's the same reason why Sergeant Johnson accompanies you during missions when he's supposed to be on another part of the ring. ''Halo: The Flood'' cemented most of their names, but it wasn't until that book and the later games that they got set with specific identities. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:59, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | During ''Combat Evolved'' a lot of the NPCs weren't set as characters yet. It's the same reason why Sergeant Johnson accompanies you during missions when he's supposed to be on another part of the ring. ''Halo: The Flood'' cemented most of their names, but it wasn't until that book and the later games that they got set with specific identities. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:59, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||