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You can find one(terminal) in the remake of the first chamber after Shafted in the level Silent Cartographer from Halo:CE just under the ramp --[[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 16:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC) | You can find one(terminal) in the remake of the first chamber after Shafted in the level Silent Cartographer from Halo:CE just under the ramp --[[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 16:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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==Differences with Difficulty== | ==Differences with Difficulty== | ||
The message you get on at least some of the Terminals vary by difficulty level. For example, I remembered Terminal 3 saying something different when I found it, so I went to check. On Normal and Heroic, it contains what you've got here. But on Legendary, the content changes to some talk about anomalies and a conversation between the Flood and Mendicant Bias. Check it out for yourself. | The message you get on at least some of the Terminals vary by difficulty level. For example, I remembered Terminal 3 saying something different when I found it, so I went to check. On Normal and Heroic, it contains what you've got here. But on Legendary, the content changes to some talk about anomalies and a conversation between the Flood and Mendicant Bias. Check it out for yourself. | ||
: could you put up a transcript? Not all of us have your 1337 skillz ;) '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 07:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | : could you put up a transcript? Not all of us have your 1337 skillz ;) '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 07:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Reported content dispute == | == Reported content dispute == | ||
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:''The Transcripts of each Terminal need to be updated. When played on Legendary, they are vastly different, and reveal MUCH more information. PLEASE try to obtain the full transcripts. Everything is different, including the initial display that can only be read in a limited amount of time.'' | :''The Transcripts of each Terminal need to be updated. When played on Legendary, they are vastly different, and reveal MUCH more information. PLEASE try to obtain the full transcripts. Everything is different, including the initial display that can only be read in a limited amount of time.'' | ||
If you can help out in any way, that'd be great! Edits to this page can be counted towards the Halo 3 Launch Contest, so why not register as a user, and/or for the contest, and help us out?! | If you can help out in any way, that'd be great! Edits to this page can be counted towards the [[Halopedia:Halo 3 Launch Contest|Halo 3 Launch Contest]], so why not register as a user, and/or for the contest, and help us out?! | ||
Cheers, | Cheers, | ||
[[User:Manticore|<font color=black>'''Manticore'''</font>]] | [[User:Manticore|<font color=black>'''Manticore'''</font>]] [[File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|20px|Manticore is a Halopedia administrator.]] <sup>[[User talk:Manticore|<font color=black>Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<font color=black>Contributions</font>]]</sup> 18:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Length == | == Length == | ||
This article is getting way too long. I propose that it be spliced into seperate articles, and a brief summary provided on the page linking to each. Thoughts? -- [[User:Manticore|Manticore]] | This article is getting way too long. I propose that it be spliced into seperate articles, and a brief summary provided on the page linking to each. Thoughts? -- [[User:Manticore|Manticore]] [[File:Fleet_Admiral.jpg|Fleet_Admiral.jpg]] [[User_talk:Manticore|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Manticore|Contributions]] 18:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
Well, we could leave one page just to talk about the Terminals, and others for each terminal and their Transcripts... ~~ Spartan729 | Well, we could leave one page just to talk about the Terminals, and others for each terminal and their Transcripts... ~~ Spartan729 | ||
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==Saved Films== | ==Saved Films== | ||
You can still access the Terminals from within your saved films! '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 23:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | You can still access the Terminals from within your saved films! '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 23:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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I think (well, for me, as a huge story buff), that this opens a whole new level to the terminals and am currently composing a transcript of (what I think) they say. | I think (well, for me, as a huge story buff), that this opens a whole new level to the terminals and am currently composing a transcript of (what I think) they say. | ||
:I've heard those messages. I've alwasy wondered what they said. Nice find. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font>]]</b> 20:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC) | :I've heard those messages. I've alwasy wondered what they said. Nice find. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font>]][[File:General-gr1.gif|30px]]</b> 20:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
I have accessed all the terminals like 10 times but I can't seem to get the achievement.--[[User talk:Edamee|Edamee]] 20:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)Edamee | I have accessed all the terminals like 10 times but I can't seem to get the achievement.--[[User talk:Edamee|Edamee]] 20:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC)Edamee | ||
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:Unfortunately, this format would be quite incompatible with ''inline'' notes, but notes could be appended to each transcript. [[Wikipedia:WP:REFGROUP|Reference groups]] would be excellent for that purpose, though it may be tricky to put the references themselves inside the transcripts without disturbing the text formatting... Tricky issue. | :Unfortunately, this format would be quite incompatible with ''inline'' notes, but notes could be appended to each transcript. [[Wikipedia:WP:REFGROUP|Reference groups]] would be excellent for that purpose, though it may be tricky to put the references themselves inside the transcripts without disturbing the text formatting... Tricky issue. | ||
:Furthermore, error messages need not be reproduced in the text -- I can probably write an alternative code with just a message describing what happens. | :Furthermore, error messages need not be reproduced in the text -- I can probably write an alternative code with just a message describing what happens. | ||
:<span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 11:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | :<span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 11:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
::''*votes for '''a lot of HTML with a lot of CSS (could be made easier with a template)'''*''. I think this style/format looks nicer.- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 12:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ::''*votes for '''a lot of HTML with a lot of CSS (could be made easier with a template)'''*''. I think this style/format looks nicer.- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 12:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:::One template would used; it would accept a parameter that controls what "chunk" of HTML it outputs. <code><nowiki>{{Terminal}}</nowiki></code> would output the starting code (to form the page); <code><nowiki>{{Terminal|p}}</nowiki></code> would be used anywhere there's two consecutive line breaks (it is needed to override some CSS that Wikia puts on paragraphs); and <code><nowiki>{{Terminal|end}}</nowiki></code> closes the page. | :::One template would used; it would accept a parameter that controls what "chunk" of HTML it outputs. <code><nowiki>{{Terminal}}</nowiki></code> would output the starting code (to form the page); <code><nowiki>{{Terminal|p}}</nowiki></code> would be used anywhere there's two consecutive line breaks (it is needed to override some CSS that Wikia puts on paragraphs); and <code><nowiki>{{Terminal|end}}</nowiki></code> closes the page. | ||
:::Orange text would be colored manually using SPAN tags, preferably using the color #FA0 (#FFAA00). | :::Orange text would be colored manually using SPAN tags, preferably using the color #FA0 (#FFAA00). | ||
:::<span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 13:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | :::<span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 13:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::Ok. Now, let's test the template on the Terminal 01. If the article can support it, then we'll apply it to all terminal messages.- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ::::Ok. Now, let's test the template on the Terminal 01. If the article can support it, then we'll apply it to all terminal messages.- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::Got a working preview on [[Template:Terminal|the template's page]]. Only issue with the template is that it can be a little quirky with certain whitespace, but the issue is easily avoided. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 14:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | :::::Got a working preview on [[Template:Terminal|the template's page]]. Only issue with the template is that it can be a little quirky with certain whitespace, but the issue is easily avoided. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 14:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::::Tested. It seems you have to input <code><nowiki>{{CLEAR}}</nowiki></code> to separate the template.- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 14:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ::::::Tested. It seems you have to input <code><nowiki>{{CLEAR}}</nowiki></code> to separate the template.- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 14:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::::My original idea was to have the templates "stack" horizontally (but feel free to add them to the article however you want, or if you want, I can get started on that), so I floated them. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 15:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | :::::::My original idea was to have the templates "stack" horizontally (but feel free to add them to the article however you want, or if you want, I can get started on that), so I floated them. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 15:01, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::::::Oops... Forgot to mention, you need to add line breaks to the text -- the template doesn't wrap on its own. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 15:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ::::::::Oops... Forgot to mention, you need to add line breaks to the text -- the template doesn't wrap on its own. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 15:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
== How? == | == How? == | ||
The terminal in the last level is on the in-complete halo, so it was just made, so how could there be a Terminal on it with recorded information? I suppose Mendicant Bias could have put the information there, but that's assuming that Halos are made with Terminals automatically. | The terminal in the last level is on the in-complete halo, so it was just made, so how could there be a Terminal on it with recorded information? I suppose Mendicant Bias could have put the information there, but that's assuming that Halos are made with Terminals automatically. | ||
:It is possible that the Terminal was filled with data immediately after its construction, or that an already-constructed Terminal was placed on Installation 04 II. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 03:05, December 1, 2009 (UTC) | :It is possible that the Terminal was filled with data immediately after its construction, or that an already-constructed Terminal was placed on Installation 04 II. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 03:05, December 1, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Trivia Error == | == Trivia Error == | ||
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== How? == | == How? == | ||
Sorry if i seem a bit stupid, but how do you read them? [[User talk:Lunar ankou2|Lunar ankou2]] 06:50, March 20, 2010 (UTC) | Sorry if i seem a bit stupid, but how do you read them? [[User talk:Lunar ankou2|Lunar ankou2]] 06:50, March 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:IIRC you walk up to the Terminal and press the same button you use to use weapons/vehicles. You then page through it with '''A''', until the Terminal (appears to) start to glitch -- it turns red and error messages scroll down one side. From there, movement, then more data shown. Then you're done. <span style="background:#ADA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 00:23, March 22, 2010 (UTC) | :IIRC you walk up to the Terminal and press the same button you use to use weapons/vehicles. You then page through it with '''A''', until the Terminal (appears to) start to glitch -- it turns red and error messages scroll down one side. From there, movement, then more data shown. Then you're done. <span style="background:#ADA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 00:23, March 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Page conservation== | ==Page conservation== | ||
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*{{Support}}- per the above [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 09:20, 11 December 2011 (EST) | *{{Support}}- per the above [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 09:20, 11 December 2011 (EST) | ||
*{{Support}} - as per FS117. [[Talk:Terminal/Halo 3#Length|Déjà vu]]? Should we do the same for Anniversary terminals too? That's [[Talk:Terminal/Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary|another story]] I guess. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[ | *{{Support}} - as per FS117. [[Talk:Terminal/Halo 3#Length|Déjà vu]]? Should we do the same for Anniversary terminals too? That's [[Talk:Terminal/Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary|another story]] I guess. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 09:34, 11 December 2011 (EST) | ||
*{{Support}} - As per above. Plus splitting the Anniversary Terminals may work out well too.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 11:46, 11 December 2011 (EST) | *{{Support}} - As per above. Plus splitting the Anniversary Terminals may work out well too.--'''''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:green">Commander</span>]]''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 11:46, 11 December 2011 (EST) | ||
*{{Support}} - why not? It is very bulky, and I could fix this up in like 5 minuets. oops, sorry. Vegerot goes RAWR! | *{{Support}} - why not? It is very bulky, and I could fix this up in like 5 minuets. oops, sorry. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 14:15, 11 December 2011 (EST) | ||
*{{Support}} Fer both. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:27, 11 December 2011 (EST) | *{{Support}} Fer both. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:27, 11 December 2011 (EST) | ||
*{{Support}} - Agreed. This is far too long an article. Must be shortened. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 18:14, 11 December 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330 | *{{Support}} - Agreed. This is far too long an article. Must be shortened. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 18:14, 11 December 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330 | ||
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== Terminal Transcript Text Size == | == Terminal Transcript Text Size == | ||
Can we consider editing the transcripts for all terminals to a larger text size so that they are easier to read? The text size used for the Data Drop transcripts would seem reasonable. Though I'm not sure how much effort that would entail or how the larger text size would affect the page layout. [[User:S.g.ali|S.g.ali]] ([[User talk:S.g.ali|talk]]) 00:28, 2 October 2013 (EDT) | Can we consider editing the transcripts for all terminals to a larger text size so that they are easier to read? The text size used for the Data Drop transcripts would seem reasonable. Though I'm not sure how much effort that would entail or how the larger text size would affect the page layout. [[User:S.g.ali|S.g.ali]] ([[User talk:S.g.ali|talk]]) 00:28, 2 October 2013 (EDT) | ||