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Just one question: What are hanging gardens, and what is the valley of tears? '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">Guesty</font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">Persony</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green">Thingy</font>]]''' 03:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Just one question: What are hanging gardens, and what is the valley of tears? '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">Guesty</font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">Persony</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green">Thingy</font>]]''' 03:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't recognize those names. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 03:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't recognize those names. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 03:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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== about the minor with a sword ==
== about the minor with a sword ==
BigQuote|Here is an intersting note. I was playing Delta Halo on Easy. A couple Minor Elites dropped down from a Phamtom and I charged foth to destroy them. Much to my suprise, one of the Minors dropped his weapon and drew a sword!
{{BigQuote|Here is an intersting note. I was playing Delta Halo on Easy. A couple Minor Elites dropped down from a Phamtom and I charged foth to destroy them. Much to my suprise, one of the Minors dropped his weapon and drew a sword!}}
I wasent the one who put about the elite minor using a sword but who ever was please respond to this because I also played delta halo and there was a minor droped with a sword [[User:Kami-Sama|visit my page]]
I wasent the one who put about the elite minor using a sword but who ever was please respond to this because I also played delta halo and there was a minor droped with a sword [[User:Kami-Sama|visit my page]]


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how were do you go to start the page [[User:Kami-Sama]]
how were do you go to start the page [[User:Kami-Sama]]
:Add the link to this page. Since the page doesn't exist yet, it will be red. Click on the red link to create the page. For example: Special Operations Minor Elite]]. -[[User:ED|ED]] 22:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
:Add the link to this page. Since the page doesn't exist yet, it will be red. Click on the red link to create the page. For example: [[Special Operations Minor Elite]]. -[[User:ED|ED]] 22:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


thanks i get started [[User:Kami-Sama|KAMI]]
thanks i get started [[User:Kami-Sama|KAMI]]
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:But what about the [[Sangheili Zealot]] rank? There are different kinds of the Zealot rank such as [[Shipmaster]], [[Field Master]], [[Sangheili General|General]], etc... So I think that the same should be done to that page if this one is moved. And there are Zealots in ''[[Halo 2]]'' and ''[[Halo: Combat Evolved]]'' that are just simply called "Zealot" not "Field Master" or anything else. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
:But what about the [[Sangheili Zealot]] rank? There are different kinds of the Zealot rank such as [[Shipmaster]], [[Field Master]], [[Sangheili General|General]], etc... So I think that the same should be done to that page if this one is moved. And there are Zealots in ''[[Halo 2]]'' and ''[[Halo: Combat Evolved]]'' that are just simply called "Zealot" not "Field Master" or anything else. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}


::::::So is there ever going to be a decision because this name template has been here '''''forever'''''--File:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>File:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 17:16, 18 November 2010 (EST)
::::::So is there ever going to be a decision because this name template has been here '''''forever'''''--[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 17:16, 18 November 2010 (EST)


== The Concept Art ==
== The Concept Art ==
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Shouldn't we use the last Canon appeareance of the Special Operations Sangheili(Halo 3) and not one from Reach, the armor had undergone serious design changes later on in the 9th age of Reclamation and no longer appeared like the Reach version, actually this could be extended to all of the Reach Elite articles. thoughts?--[[User talk:The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee|The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee]] 12:16, 11 April 2011 (EDT)
Shouldn't we use the last Canon appeareance of the Special Operations Sangheili(Halo 3) and not one from Reach, the armor had undergone serious design changes later on in the 9th age of Reclamation and no longer appeared like the Reach version, actually this could be extended to all of the Reach Elite articles. thoughts?--[[User talk:The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee|The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee]] 12:16, 11 April 2011 (EDT)


:Canonically, Reach ''is'' the last canon appearance, because it's the most recent release. It is a prequel, yes, but much of its depictions are probably retcons - two entire militaries change their arsenal in a little under two months? I think not. Which leaves us with the Reach versions of the armour, until we are told or shown otherwise. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 15:22, 11 April 2011 (EDT)
:Canonically, Reach ''is'' the last canon appearance, because it's the most recent release. It is a prequel, yes, but much of its depictions are probably retcons - two entire militaries change their arsenal in a little under two months? I think not. Which leaves us with the Reach versions of the armour, until we are told or shown otherwise. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 15:22, 11 April 2011 (EDT)


The issue with that is that you are ''Assuming'' it is a retcon. Unless explicitly shown we cannot assume that it is a retcon, rather it could be a special unit or army (which I believe is supported by the Plasma repeater and other new Covenant weapons in their description) brought in for the battle of Reach, and like the Skirmisher Kig-Yar suffered extensive caulsities and did not fight during the rest of the war. --[[User talk:The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee|The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee]] 11:04, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
The issue with that is that you are ''Assuming'' it is a retcon. Unless explicitly shown we cannot assume that it is a retcon, rather it could be a special unit or army (which I believe is supported by the Plasma repeater and other new Covenant weapons in their description) brought in for the battle of Reach, and like the Skirmisher Kig-Yar suffered extensive caulsities and did not fight during the rest of the war. --[[User talk:The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee|The Reborn Qual &#39;Fulsamee]] 11:04, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
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Personally, I've always thought it would fit better with canon if that was some sort of other Fleet Security rank, as they were seemingly deployed to contain the infestation on the ground as their primary directive, with assisting The Chief as a secondary thing. I mean, if they were SpecOps and were sent there for the sole purpose of helping Chief, why would they so willingly stay behind to kill the Flood instead of just go with the Chief?Plus, Special Operations doesn't really seem like the kind of unit to send to go contain an outbreak of Flood, that seems more like the job of Fleet Security, who literally have Security in the name. So does anyone have a source that says these guys are SpecOps? I'd really like to know. [[User talk:Sgt Rorschach|Sgt Rorschach]] 04:34, 8 October 2014 (EDT)
Personally, I've always thought it would fit better with canon if that was some sort of other Fleet Security rank, as they were seemingly deployed to contain the infestation on the ground as their primary directive, with assisting The Chief as a secondary thing. I mean, if they were SpecOps and were sent there for the sole purpose of helping Chief, why would they so willingly stay behind to kill the Flood instead of just go with the Chief?Plus, Special Operations doesn't really seem like the kind of unit to send to go contain an outbreak of Flood, that seems more like the job of Fleet Security, who literally have Security in the name. So does anyone have a source that says these guys are SpecOps? I'd really like to know. [[User talk:Sgt Rorschach|Sgt Rorschach]] 04:34, 8 October 2014 (EDT)
:I always assume that it was derived from the fact that because Rtas 'Vadum was SpecOps Commander and led his SpecOps units to Earth to assist the Arbiter (per EVG). However, you are correct in pointing out one thing: the armour worn is actually those of the Fleet Security and not of the SpecOps, per [[Usze 'Taham]] article (and his profile on Bungie.net). We should definitely correct this and move the information to [[Fleet Security]]. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:32, 8 October 2014 (EDT)
== The Elite seen in the Day at the Beach cinematic was clearly a Minor and not part of Special Operations ==
The Sangheili in Another Day at the Beach is wearing purple armor. Sangheili Minors wear blue armor. As such, the Sangheili in the cinematic uses active camo, something only Special Operations Sangheili use. [[User:Jebcubed|<span style="color: blue">'''Jeb'''<sup>'''3'''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Jebcubed|<span style="color: orange"><sub>'''Talk at me here'''</sub></span>]] 16:24, October 29, 2019 (EDT)

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