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== Flying cars? ==
== Flying cars? ==


I noticed that there are flying vehicles way in the background(not the hornet!). These aren't just a couple or handful of vehicles either, but rather they are flying grouped together in "lanes" almost. Now these flying cars may not be alarming, but I've personally never seen travel like this in Halo before, or at least they've never been mentioned. I think this is a significant/radical addition to Halo lore. It shows that humans are way more advanced now or at least improved their tech after the war. This seems important to mention, but I don't know if they have already been mentioned before (I never read the Forerunner or Post-war books). It looks like Halo just received a sci-fi staple.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 22:10, 28 February 2013 (EST)
I noticed that there are flying vehicles way in the background(not the hornet!). These aren't just a couple or handful of vehicles either, but rather they are flying grouped together in "lanes" almost. Now these flying cars may not be alarming, but I've personally never seen travel like this in Halo before, or at least they've never been mentioned. I think this is a significant/radical addition to Halo lore. It shows that humans are way more advanced now or at least improved their tech after the war. This seems important to mention, but I don't know if they have already been mentioned before (I never read the Forerunner or Post-war books). It looks like Halo just received a sci-fi staple.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 22:10, 28 February 2013 (EST)
:I noticed this as well and it reminded me of the planet Coruscant in ''Star Wars''. Seems like way too many to be a group of UNSC Pelicans/Hornets/Falcons.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 22:18, 28 February 2013 (EST)
:I noticed this as well and it reminded me of the planet Coruscant in ''Star Wars''. Seems like way too many to be a group of UNSC Pelicans/Hornets/Falcons.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 22:18, 28 February 2013 (EST)
::That caught my eye, too. I will admit it definitely looks like lanes of flying traffic. That being said flying personal vehicles, or more specifically flying cars, have never been mentioned or even hinted at in ''Halo'' canon (not even in the [[Kilo-Five Trilogy]]). Human vehicles in the ''Halo'' universe have always either been terrestrial automobiles or traditional aircraft, not both. I personally find it hard to believe that humanity went from zero flying cars to having enough to fill multiple lanes of traffic in just 5 years. If I had to theorize I'd say an environment artist decided inserting that sci-fi staple would look cool (and even I must admit, it does). But to take it as canon that humanity has developed flying cars as consumer goods is a bit of a stretch. It's definitely worth a note in the trivia section, but I don't think we should rush to create pages for flying cars.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 22:29, 28 February 2013 (EST)
::That caught my eye, too. I will admit it definitely looks like lanes of flying traffic. That being said flying personal vehicles, or more specifically flying cars, have never been mentioned or even hinted at in ''Halo'' canon (not even in the [[Kilo-Five Trilogy]]). Human vehicles in the ''Halo'' universe have always either been terrestrial automobiles or traditional aircraft, not both. I personally find it hard to believe that humanity went from zero flying cars to having enough to fill multiple lanes of traffic in just 5 years. If I had to theorize I'd say an environment artist decided inserting that sci-fi staple would look cool (and even I must admit, it does). But to take it as canon that humanity has developed flying cars as consumer goods is a bit of a stretch. It's definitely worth a note in the trivia section, but I don't think we should rush to create pages for flying cars.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 22:29, 28 February 2013 (EST)
:::Keep in mind that this is supposed to be a simulated environment within the ''Infinity'''s training deck. Therefore the flying cars could in fact be a "cool sci-fi staple" and still be canon, as they may simply have been added by whoever programmed the simulation... We don't exactly have a solid bead on which time period (ie: present or future) is represented in the Skyline simulation. It's possible that it's supposed to take place in the "near future" & the programmer may have been speculating that we would have flying cars at that time, based on a better understanding of Covenant & Forerunner antigrav technology. Or it could simply be artistic license. "Simulation of a simulation" scenarios like this are where sci-fi tends to cause headaches, because the real-world 343i programmer is crafting the playing environment of the level by imagining it as a simulation seen through the eyes of the in-game, fictional, UNSC programmer.... "Simulating a simulation" is the 2nd most confusing sci-fi staple after time travel. - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 11:09, 1 March 2013 (EST)
:::Keep in mind that this is supposed to be a simulated environment within the ''Infinity'''s training deck. Therefore the flying cars could in fact be a "cool sci-fi staple" and still be canon, as they may simply have been added by whoever programmed the simulation... We don't exactly have a solid bead on which time period (ie: present or future) is represented in the Skyline simulation. It's possible that it's supposed to take place in the "near future" & the programmer may have been speculating that we would have flying cars at that time, based on a better understanding of Covenant & Forerunner antigrav technology. Or it could simply be artistic license. "Simulation of a simulation" scenarios like this are where sci-fi tends to cause headaches, because the real-world 343i programmer is crafting the playing environment of the level by imagining it as a simulation seen through the eyes of the in-game, fictional, UNSC programmer.... "Simulating a simulation" is the 2nd most confusing sci-fi staple after time travel. - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 11:09, 1 March 2013 (EST)
::::Its simulated by the Infinity, but it is still a real environment. They are too far away to be confirmed as flying Mass Effect-like cars, but there are too many of them to just be military vehicles. I think we should mention in the trivia that there could be personal flying vehicles, but until we get more detail we should watch for more info. OR maybe someone could glitch out of the map and get a closer look. --[[User:Squireyoung|Squireyoung]] ([[User talk:Squireyoung|talk]]) 11:33, 1 March 2013 (EST)
    Its simulated by the Infinity, but it is still a real environment. They are too far away to be confirmed as flying Mass Effect-like cars, but there are too many of them to just be military vehicles. I think we should mention in the trivia that there could be personal flying vehicles, but until we get more detail we should watch for more info. OR maybe someone could glitch out of the map and get a closer look. --[[User:Squireyoung|Squireyoung]] ([[User talk:Squireyoung|talk]]) 11:33, 1 March 2013 (EST)
:::::I agree that we should keep our eyes open for more info, but if we're going to add any reference to flying cars on the page, we should at least add the caveat that they have turned up only in simulations thus far. - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 13:32, 1 March 2013 (EST)
::::::I think that we should at least make a little note in the trivia, but not forward it as if they exist in the real world (in Halo). We could simply remind that Skyline is a simulation. Also, there's no more detail beyond them being points of light. They are simply sprites all the way in the background. If you zoom in with a sniper rifle, you will see that they are simply glowing pixelated triangles and that's all.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 23:43, 5 March 2013 (EST)

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