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==Counterpart?==
==Counterpart?==
This page shows that the AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun is the Human counterpart of the Shade. But, the AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun's counterpart is the Plasma Cannon. Shouldn't it's counterpart be a Stationary Gauss Cannon? [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 21:37, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
This page shows that the AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun is the Human counterpart of the Shade. But, the AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun's counterpart is the Plasma Cannon. Shouldn't it's counterpart be a Stationary Gauss Cannon? [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] [[Image:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 21:37, July 30, 2010 (UTC)


= Taken from Ball Turret Talk Page =
= Taken from Ball Turret Talk Page =
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=== For ===
=== For ===
*Per above--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 07:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*Per above--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[Image:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 07:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 15:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 15:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*For, both have the same name --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 16:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*For, both have the same name --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 16:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*For, its just an updated shade. --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]]File:Halo3.comchief.PNG|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>File:Sergeant.jpg|30px]]File:GDI.jpg|30px]] 22 September 2007
*For, its just an updated shade. --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]][[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>[[Image:Sergeant.jpg|30px]][[Image:GDI.jpg|30px]] 22 September 2007
*I beleive it should be merged. Just cause it doesnt look like the Halo CE gun doesn't mean it isn't a shade.
*I beleive it should be merged. Just cause it doesnt look like the Halo CE gun doesn't mean it isn't a shade.
[[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 01:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 01:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah. I agree with Covenant Ghost.--'''[[User:Shade Link|<font color="Black">Shade</font>]] [[User Talk:Shade Link|<font color="red">Link</font>]]'''[[File:Dark_link.png|20px|link=Special:Editcount/Shade Link]] 21:20, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
*Yeah. I agree with Covenant Ghost.--'''[[User:Shade Link|<font color="Black">Shade</font>]] [[User Talk:Shade Link|<font color="red">Link</font>]]'''[[File:Dark_link.png|20px|link=Special:Editcount/Shade Link]] 21:20, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
*:This vote was decided on ''two years ago''. Please check the dates on comments. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 00:53, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
*:This vote was decided on ''two years ago''. Please check the dates on comments. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 00:53, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
Oh well...--'''[[User:Shade Link|<font color="Black">Shade</font>]] [[User Talk:Shade Link|<font color="red">Link</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Shade Link|<font color="Green">the</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Shade Link|<font color="Blue">Demon</font>]]''' 21:17, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
Oh well...--'''[[User:Shade Link|<font color="Black">Shade</font>]] [[User Talk:Shade Link|<font color="red">Link</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Shade Link|<font color="Green">the</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Shade Link|<font color="Blue">Demon</font>]]''' 21:17, September 8, 2009 (UTC)


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I believe it's a plasma turret but I think someone made a mistake, "Ball turret" is most certanlly just a nickname but i think it and the halo 2 turret should be reclassified less i be mistaken. --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ptowery  UNSC History])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 00:05, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
I believe it's a plasma turret but I think someone made a mistake, "Ball turret" is most certanlly just a nickname but i think it and the halo 2 turret should be reclassified less i be mistaken. --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ptowery  UNSC History])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 00:05, September 3, 2009 (UTC)


:WTH? That proposal was from '07, the merging happened a long time ago. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 00:17, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
:WTH? That proposal was from '07, the merging happened a long time ago. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 00:17, September 3, 2009 (UTC)


= Talk Page =
= Talk Page =
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probably, the sheilded one in H2 was destructable so they'll probably go with the same with a rocket or grenade blast[[User:Hollywood101x|Hollywood]] 23:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
probably, the sheilded one in H2 was destructable so they'll probably go with the same with a rocket or grenade blast[[User:Hollywood101x|Hollywood]] 23:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


The Halo 3 Shade ''is'' dectructable. [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 11:36, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
The Halo 3 Shade ''is'' dectructable. [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] [[Image:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 11:36, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
== Acronym ==
== Acronym ==
What does "ASG" mean?
What does "ASG" mean?
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Nobody really knows, we can't decide, so we are leaving it be. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 15:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Nobody really knows, we can't decide, so we are leaving it be. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 15:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


We have a clue of it that it is "Anti-infantry Stationary Gun", according to Bungie Player Stats, and I'm pretty sure that that is what ASG means :) --[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 08:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
We have a clue of it that it is "Anti-infantry Stationary Gun", according to Bungie Player Stats, and I'm pretty sure that that is what ASG means :) --[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[Image:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 08:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


If you guys are still not sure, might I suggest "Armored Stationary Gun"?
If you guys are still not sure, might I suggest "Armored Stationary Gun"?
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== Template Image ==
== Template Image ==


I think we should put a picture of the Halo:Combat Evolved Shade in the Template on top of the Halo 3 Shade, because the Shade has 2 incarnations and it makes sense to put both up.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] File:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 21:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I think we should put a picture of the Halo:Combat Evolved Shade in the Template on top of the Halo 3 Shade, because the Shade has 2 incarnations and it makes sense to put both up.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] [[Image:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 21:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


== Incorrect Assumption ==
== Incorrect Assumption ==
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Yeah, I see both. But above the "shielded turret" is what looks like a wraith that drove into a tree or something. :)[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 18:18, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I see both. But above the "shielded turret" is what looks like a wraith that drove into a tree or something. :)[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 18:18, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
==Split - Different models==
The B.net stats mention that "Shade" is a catch-all term for the Covenant's various turret-mounted stationary guns. Thus, the Type-26 ASG is only one of many Shade variants, whereas the one in ''Halo Wars'' and ''Combat Evolved'' is a different model. ''Reach'' introduces the anti-air and fuel rod Shades, which are not anti-infantry weapons, as well as including the ''Halo 3''/''ODST'' version. They are clearly '''not''' all the T26. Thus, I propose that this article only feature the ''Halo 3''/''ODST''/''Reach'' model, while the catchall ''Shade''-class receive a more general page. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 15:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
:Agreed. There's no reason to assume that ''all'' Shades are designated T-26. The same goes for the H1/H2/H3 style Wraiths. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
::Agreed. Should we hold a vote? [[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] 13:52, 2 January 2011 (EST)
:::Jabber: The split has been performed months ago. :P - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 15:31, 2 January 2011 (EST)
== Halo Anniversary ==
Is there any images or footage of the Shade in the Anniversary game? Is it going to use the Reach type, like the rest of the graphics, or the original kind? <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 08:47, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

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