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==Counterpart?==
This page shows that the AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun is the Human counterpart of the Shade. But, the AIE-486H Heavy Machine Gun's counterpart is the Plasma Cannon. Shouldn't it's counterpart be a Stationary Gauss Cannon? [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 21:37, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
= Taken from Ball Turret Talk Page =
= Taken from Ball Turret Talk Page =
<big><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#F00">This vote has ''already been decided on'' and ended ''{{#expr: {{LOCALYEAR}} - 2007 }} years ago''. Please refrain from replying to the comments; consider this an archive.</span></big>
== Votes for merger with Shade ==
== Votes for merger with Shade ==
Hey guys. As you can see from http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/halo3.aspx (click Vehicles , Covenant Vehicles, then click the ball turret pic), you'll see that it is called "shade". The ball turret name is just what fans dubbed it. Merge?
Hey guys. As you can see from http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/halo3.aspx (click Vehicles , Covenant Vehicles, then click the ball turret pic), you'll see that it is called "shade". The ball turret name is just what fans dubbed it. Merge?


=== For ===
=== For ===
*Per above--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 07:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*Per above--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[Image:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 07:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 15:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 15:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*For, both have the same name --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 16:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*For, both have the same name --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 16:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
*For, its just an updated shade. --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]]File:Halo3.comchief.PNG|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>File:Sergeant.jpg|30px]]File:GDI.jpg|30px]] 22 September 2007
*For, its just an updated shade. --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]][[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>[[Image:Sergeant.jpg|30px]][[Image:GDI.jpg|30px]] 22 September 2007
*I beleive it should be merged. Just cause it doesnt look like the Halo CE gun doesn't mean it isn't a shade.
I beleive it should be merged. Jsut cause it doesnt look like the Halo CE gun doesn't mean it isn't a shade.
[[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 01:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
[[User:Covenant Ghost|Covenant Ghost]] 01:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah. I agree with Covenant Ghost.--'''[[User:Shade Link|<font color="Black">Shade</font>]] [[User Talk:Shade Link|<font color="red">Link</font>]]'''[[File:Dark_link.png|20px|link=Special:Editcount/Shade Link]] 21:20, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
*:This vote was decided on ''two years ago''. Please check the dates on comments. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 00:53, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
Oh well...--'''[[User:Shade Link|<font color="Black">Shade</font>]] [[User Talk:Shade Link|<font color="red">Link</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Shade Link|<font color="Green">the</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Shade Link|<font color="Blue">Demon</font>]]''' 21:17, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
=== Neutral ===
=== Neutral ===


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=== Against ===
=== Against ===
I believe it's a plasma turret but I think someone made a mistake, "Ball turret" is most certanlly just a nickname but i think it and the halo 2 turret should be reclassified less i be mistaken. --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ptowery  UNSC History])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 00:05, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
== Talk Page ==
 
:WTH? That proposal was from '07, the merging happened a long time ago. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 00:17, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 
= Talk Page =
Is this destructable?
Is this destructable?


probably, the sheilded one in H2 was destructable so they'll probably go with the same with a rocket or grenade blast[[User:Hollywood101x|Hollywood]] 23:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
probably, the sheilded one in H2 was destructable so they'll probably go with the same with a rocket or grenade blast[[User:Hollywood101x|Hollywood]] 23:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 
= Acronym =
The Halo 3 Shade ''is'' dectructable. [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 11:36, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
== Acronym ==
What does "ASG" mean?
What does "ASG" mean?
Nobody really knows, we can't decide, so we are leaving it be. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 15:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
We have a clue of it that it is "Anti-infantry Stationary Gun", according to Bungie Player Stats, and I'm pretty sure that that is what ASG means :) --[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black">CSV</font>]]</sub> 08:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
If you guys are still not sure, might I suggest "Armored Stationary Gun"?
== Turret Differences ==
I noticed that the Shielded Plasma Cannon and the Shade are merged. I don't understand this since they're different turrets altogether. While you can argue that the "ball turret" from Halo 3 is different it is called a Shade in numerous sources. The Shielded Plasma Cannon is never called a shade. Also the two are very different in appearance. The Shielded Plasma Cannon is attached to the ground while the shade hovers above its base. I think the two turret types should be separated or this articles should be about the Covenant's stationary turrets
== Template Image ==
I think we should put a picture of the Halo:Combat Evolved Shade in the Template on top of the Halo 3 Shade, because the Shade has 2 incarnations and it makes sense to put both up.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] File:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 21:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
== Incorrect Assumption ==
The Shade CAN be used in the Halo PC campaign, as evidenced in the level Truth and Reconciliation (and the level leading up to it). It can also be used in various other levels. [[User talk:Wolfsbane6|Wolfsbane6]] 17:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
== Different Versions in Reach? ==
Please zoom in on the following [http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/80610/SCREENSHOTS/1920/Reach_TotS_Gunning.jpg Image]. It appears that the Shade Turret to the left is the one that is shooting those Fuel Rod Rounds. It also appears that there is a shielded version torwards the center (It is easier to see it when you zoom in the image), right above the nearest Wraith.
Yeah, I see both. But above the "shielded turret" is what looks like a wraith that drove into a tree or something. :)[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 18:18, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
==Split - Different models==
The B.net stats mention that "Shade" is a catch-all term for the Covenant's various turret-mounted stationary guns. Thus, the Type-26 ASG is only one of many Shade variants, whereas the one in ''Halo Wars'' and ''Combat Evolved'' is a different model. ''Reach'' introduces the anti-air and fuel rod Shades, which are not anti-infantry weapons, as well as including the ''Halo 3''/''ODST'' version. They are clearly '''not''' all the T26. Thus, I propose that this article only feature the ''Halo 3''/''ODST''/''Reach'' model, while the catchall ''Shade''-class receive a more general page. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 15:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
:Agreed. There's no reason to assume that ''all'' Shades are designated T-26. The same goes for the H1/H2/H3 style Wraiths. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
::Agreed. Should we hold a vote? [[User talk:Jabberwockxeno|Jabberwockxeno]] 13:52, 2 January 2011 (EST)
:::Jabber: The split has been performed months ago. :P - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 15:31, 2 January 2011 (EST)
== Halo Anniversary ==
Is there any images or footage of the Shade in the Anniversary game? Is it going to use the Reach type, like the rest of the graphics, or the original kind? <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 08:47, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

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