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That doesn't have anything to do with Bungie's addiction to 7. That's how it is at all military,police,or firefighters funeral. It is a 21 gun salute because it is 7 people shooting 3 shots each, no coincidence. You just saw 7 and thought Bungie put it in there just for you to find. I mean if the military gave Master Chief a whole memorial for his service and death and what he did, yea I'm sure they would give him the 21 gun salute. Oh yea i know all this cause I am on the Honor Guard at a military school. So the "Seven Marines fire their Battle Rifles in the air in the ceremony at the end of Halo 3." part should be erased.
That doesn't have anything to do with Bungie's addiction to 7. That's how it is at all military,police,or firefighters funeral. It is a 21 gun salute because it is 7 people shooting 3 shots each, no coincidence. You just saw 7 and thought Bungie put it in there just for you to find. I mean if the military gave Master Chief a whole memorial for his service and death and what he did, yea I'm sure they would give him the 21 gun salute. Oh yea i know all this cause I am on the Honor Guard at a military school. So the "Seven Marines fire their Battle Rifles in the air in the ceremony at the end of Halo 3." part should be erased.


Although Bungie didn't make the 21 gun salute, there's no way of telling whether they put it in their '''because''' of their favourite number, or whether it's coincidence. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 23:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Although Bungie didn't make the 21 gun salute, there's no way of telling whether they put it in their '''because''' of their favourite number, or whether it's coincidence. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 23:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


:I'm afraid you're making a common mistake. What was fired at the end of Halo 3 was NOT a 21-gun salute, but rather a 3-volley salute. The difference is that a 3-volley salute consists of rifles firing blanks into the air simultaneously 3 times, as where the 21-gun salute uses artillery pieces, fired one at a time for a total of 21 shots. Very important is that a 3-volley salute doesn't necessarily need to have seven shooters, but rather an odd-number of shooters numbering 3 at the least and 7 at the most. Seven is the most common form, but since it is not the only form, the seven-man 3-volley at the end of Halo 3 can still be considered a 7 reference.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|18px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">Rusty</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">-</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">112</font>]] 03:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:I'm afraid you're making a common mistake. What was fired at the end of Halo 3 was NOT a 21-gun salute, but rather a 3-volley salute. The difference is that a 3-volley salute consists of rifles firing blanks into the air simultaneously 3 times, as where the 21-gun salute uses artillery pieces, fired one at a time for a total of 21 shots. Very important is that a 3-volley salute doesn't necessarily need to have seven shooters, but rather an odd-number of shooters numbering 3 at the least and 7 at the most. Seven is the most common form, but since it is not the only form, the seven-man 3-volley at the end of Halo 3 can still be considered a 7 reference.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|18px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">Rusty</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">-</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">112</font>]] 03:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
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--[[Special:Contributions/91.111.32.133|91.111.32.133]] 18:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
--[[Special:Contributions/91.111.32.133|91.111.32.133]] 18:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


Without further knowledge that is just a coincidence. CoH/Member List#Honor Guard Elites|<span style="color:#000080">'''Honor Guard'''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Spartansniper</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">50</span>]] 19:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Without further knowledge that is just a coincidence. [[Halopedia:Covenant of Halopedia/Member List#Honor Guard Elites|<span style="color:#000080">'''Honor Guard'''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Spartansniper</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:black">50</span>]] 19:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


It's not good to mix operations. You can get any number you want from a batch of numbers if you work hard enough and have perfect freedom. I do think there are numbers that are a reference when added together, but mixing subtraction in there seems over the top to me and liable to pick up stuff that are not real references. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
It's not good to mix operations. You can get any number you want from a batch of numbers if you work hard enough and have perfect freedom. I do think there are numbers that are a reference when added together, but mixing subtraction in there seems over the top to me and liable to pick up stuff that are not real references. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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I was thinking the exact same thing. Some things, I think, should be put up because of the references. The Asian character engraved on the Halo 1 pistol being the equivalent of 7, Commander Keyes's 7-shaped scar on her cheek, Guilty Spark and the other monitors' numbers being powers of 7 and whatnot, there are seven Halo rings, and some other things. Though, most of the things on this page are absolute crud, to put it lightly. "Warthog", "SPARTAN", "Cortana", "Arbiter", "Evolved" and "Phantom" all have seven letters in them! Halo 3: ODST has seven syllables in the title (Hay-loh Three Oh-Dee-Ess-Tee)! Fourteen ensigns were killed in a slipspace accident, and 14 divided by 2 is 7! It takes seven needles from a Needler to cause an explosion! On page seven of this book, a SPARTAN uses something with a designation of "7"! There are currently seven Halo games!
I was thinking the exact same thing. Some things, I think, should be put up because of the references. The Asian character engraved on the Halo 1 pistol being the equivalent of 7, Commander Keyes's 7-shaped scar on her cheek, Guilty Spark and the other monitors' numbers being powers of 7 and whatnot, there are seven Halo rings, and some other things. Though, most of the things on this page are absolute crud, to put it lightly. "Warthog", "SPARTAN", "Cortana", "Arbiter", "Evolved" and "Phantom" all have seven letters in them! Halo 3: ODST has seven syllables in the title (Hay-loh Three Oh-Dee-Ess-Tee)! Fourteen ensigns were killed in a slipspace accident, and 14 divided by 2 is 7! It takes seven needles from a Needler to cause an explosion! On page seven of this book, a SPARTAN uses something with a designation of "7"! There are currently seven Halo games!


Seriously, most of those are coincidences. Do you honestly think that a company would design their game and universe that heavily around making references to a single number? The Human brain sees what it wants to see. I'm ashamed that Halopedia has an article this pointless and speculative, especially when so many things on this page are obviously only coincidences. Chiafriend12 00:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Seriously, most of those are coincidences. Do you honestly think that a company would design their game and universe that heavily around making references to a single number? The Human brain sees what it wants to see. I'm ashamed that Halopedia has an article this pointless and speculative, especially when so many things on this page are obviously only coincidences. {{Signatures/Chiafriend12}} 00:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


You don't know how good it is to ''finally'' hear someone else say that... Oh wait... my last sentence had 14 words in it; divide that by 2 and you get 7! Add it to the reference list! [[User talk:Flag-Waving American Patriot|Flag-Waving American Patriot]] 03:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
You don't know how good it is to ''finally'' hear someone else say that... Oh wait... my last sentence had 14 words in it; divide that by 2 and you get 7! Add it to the reference list! [[User talk:Flag-Waving American Patriot|Flag-Waving American Patriot]] 03:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
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Anyone else encountering some weird text reversing thing in the edit page? I made a [http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1379/wthalo.png screenshot]. It's like the software thinks it's a right-to-left language instead of English. I type and it comes out backwards, but saves the right way. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 23:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Anyone else encountering some weird text reversing thing in the edit page? I made a [http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1379/wthalo.png screenshot]. It's like the software thinks it's a right-to-left language instead of English. I type and it comes out backwards, but saves the right way. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 23:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's a bug in Firefox and not Wikia, if that's what you're thinking. It's happened to me a few times on other websites. Rebooting your computer usually will fix it. Chiafriend12 02:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's a bug in Firefox and not Wikia, if that's what you're thinking. It's happened to me a few times on other websites. Rebooting your computer usually will fix it. {{Signatures/Chiafriend12}} 02:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, Firefox. Okay, thank you. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 09:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, Firefox. Okay, thank you. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 09:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
:::It's not Firefox. Some user inserted the image code in backwards, resulting to the whole article input to go backwards. Don't worry... I've fixed this :) -<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 12:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:::It's not Firefox. Some user inserted the image code in backwards, resulting to the whole article input to go backwards. Don't worry... I've fixed this :) -<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 12:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
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14:09, April 25, 2010 (UTC) FLAMERAPTOR
14:09, April 25, 2010 (UTC) FLAMERAPTOR
:I don't think so. Complicated arithmetic or worked out references like that don't usually qualify as 7 references. - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 14:18, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think so. Complicated arithmetic or worked out references like that don't usually qualify as 7 references. - [[File:Major.png|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 14:18, April 25, 2010 (UTC)


What about the fact that I-WOULD-HAVE-BEEN-YOUR-DAD-DY contains seven syllables? Is that just a coincidence?--[[User talk:Full Metal Fan|Full Metal Fan]] 21:26, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
What about the fact that I-WOULD-HAVE-BEEN-YOUR-DAD-DY contains seven syllables? Is that just a coincidence?--[[User talk:Full Metal Fan|Full Metal Fan]] 21:26, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
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:They're just background, not AI. They're moving 2-D images made to look like the real thing from a distance - say, the map.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 09:13, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
:They're just background, not AI. They're moving 2-D images made to look like the real thing from a distance - say, the map.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 09:13, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
::---Its a 7 reference. Bungie made only 7 multiplayer maps with birds on them. I only mentioned Rats Nest and its Hornets and Pelicans because someone might count them as birds. I think it should be added in with the other Halo 3 references. [[User talk:UEG Dero AD|UEG Dero AD]] 10:39, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
::---Its a 7 reference. Bungie made only 7 multiplayer maps with birds on them. I only mentioned Rats Nest and its Hornets and Pelicans because someone might count them as birds. I think it should be added in with the other Halo 3 references. [[User talk:UEG Dero AD|UEG Dero AD]] 10:39, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
:::However the level [[Delta Halo]] has those creatures. So do you mean in ''[[Halo 3]]'' or in the whole of the ''[[Halo universe|Halo]]'' franchise? --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
:::However the level [[Delta Halo (level)|Delta Halo]] has those creatures. So do you mean in ''[[Halo 3]]'' or in the whole of the ''[[Halo universe|Halo]]'' franchise? --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
:::---Just the Halo 3 Multiplayer. [[User talk:UEG Dero AD|UEG Dero AD]] 21:58, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
:::---Just the Halo 3 Multiplayer. [[User talk:UEG Dero AD|UEG Dero AD]] 21:58, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
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I know that it seems a bit too unlikely myself, but i posted it for the fact that it was the date Cortana was created, and thought that this date might have enough significance that Bungie might have put in some sort of reference. If not for that, i understand that these types of complicated things should not be taken seriously as proper references. Anyway, i intended to put as many references here as ''possibilities''. For example, the whole thing might not be a reference, but maybe just the 11/7 date being a proper reference. Rather than putting a rude statement, look into it a bit more, and answer a bit more politely please.
I know that it seems a bit too unlikely myself, but i posted it for the fact that it was the date Cortana was created, and thought that this date might have enough significance that Bungie might have put in some sort of reference. If not for that, i understand that these types of complicated things should not be taken seriously as proper references. Anyway, i intended to put as many references here as ''possibilities''. For example, the whole thing might not be a reference, but maybe just the 11/7 date being a proper reference. Rather than putting a rude statement, look into it a bit more, and answer a bit more politely please.
[[User talk:KokoroSenshi|KokoroSenshi]] 19:23, 24 January 2011 (EST)
[[User talk:KokoroSenshi|KokoroSenshi]] 19:23, 24 January 2011 (EST)
::Well, it's been a while, and I notice that:
::"Most of the Halo series is set in years beginning with the number 25. 2+5=7 The vast majority of the game trilogy is set in 2552. 5 and 2 is the exact same equation, per order of operations."
::is listed under the Miscellaneous section.
::Following this, in the date 2549/11/7:
::- The "25" is already accepted,
::- The root(49)=7 seems as straightforward as 5+2=7,
::- So lastly, what's the opinion on 11/7?
::[[User:KokoroSenshi|KokoroSenshi]] ([[User talk:KokoroSenshi|talk]]) 07:22, 12 September 2015 (EDT)
:::Never mind, just found it in Halo Reach section "Cortana was activated November 7, 2549 or 11/7/49.[80] 49=72 The month and day date may also be a reference to John-117's service number." [[User:KokoroSenshi|KokoroSenshi]] ([[User talk:KokoroSenshi|talk]]) 07:25, 12 September 2015 (EDT)


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=="And the angel blew on the seventh trumpet"...==
=="And the angel blew on the seventh trumpet"...==
The very long title is, my opinion, cumbersome and not very easy to link to. Because of this, this article has '''Seven''' redirects [that are just variant renamings of this one page. (And this pointless thing.) A new one gets made every time the title is changed slightly, and half the users just link to "Seven" anyway. Because of this, I recommend this page should be moved to "Seven" for ease of linking. The current title could perhaps be kept through the Title Template, but it would not be the actual title. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:31, 7 February 2015 (EST)
The very long title is, my opinion, cumbersome and not very easy to link to. Because of this, this article has '''[[Seven]]''' [[7|redirects]] [[List of Seven references in Halo|that are]] [[List of 7 references|just variant]] [[List of "seven" references in Halo|renamings]] [[List of "Seven" references in Halo|of this one]] [[List of "seven" references in the Halo series|page]]. ([[Bungie's Lucky Number|And this pointless thing]].) A new one gets made every time the title is changed slightly, and half the users just link to "Seven" anyway. Because of this, I recommend this page should be moved to "Seven" for ease of linking. The current title could perhaps be kept through the Title Template, but it would not be the actual title. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:31, 7 February 2015 (EST)
:I agree. That sounds a lot simpler. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 23:24, 7 February 2015 (EST)
:I agree. That sounds a lot simpler. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 23:24, 7 February 2015 (EST)
::Agreed also. Makes way more sense that way.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:56, 8 February 2015 (EST)
::Agreed also. Makes way more sense that way.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:56, 8 February 2015 (EST)
:::I agree as well. The use of the title template also isn't needed here; I've been meaning to start a larger-scale implementation of the [[Halopedia:Manual of Style#Title template|additions]] I made to the MOS regarding the template a while back (the rationale for which can be found [[Halopedia talk:Manual of Style#Proposal: an end to the obfuscation of article titles|here]]). --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 13:11, 8 February 2015 (EST)
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