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{{ | {{FactOrFictionTalk|14:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)|[[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]]|Please supply the source and location of the ranking image you have added to this article. Show me where the UNSC uses these specific ranking "stripes!"}} | ||
[[Image:British Sergeant.gif|thumb|200px|Could as easily be this British Sergeant Ranking Design]] | |||
==They used the British design!== | ==They used the British design!== | ||
There is just as much evidence that they used the British design as they used the American design. FANFICTION! -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 22:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | There is just as much evidence that they used the British design as they used the American design. FANFICTION! -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 22:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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*In the books the Naval Officers and Marine Officers wear the same rank Insignias just look at Captain Keyes's Medals on this site and in the first strike book the master chief see First Lieutenant Elias Haverson rank Insignia and salutes him--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 10:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | *In the books the Naval Officers and Marine Officers wear the same rank Insignias just look at Captain Keyes's Medals on this site and in the first strike book the master chief see First Lieutenant Elias Haverson rank Insignia and salutes him--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 10:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Well we aren't talking about Medals are we. And you mean to tell me that you could "see" what the rank patch looked like by reading the text in the book? Or was there a picture? If there was a picture please show us. -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 11:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | :Well we aren't talking about Medals are we. And you mean to tell me that you could "see" what the rank patch looked like by reading the text in the book? Or was there a picture? If there was a picture please show us. -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 11:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
::I beleive he is referring to this picture I just put up. The two bars represent a "Captain" and those Two bars are used by U.S. Forces. Im not sure do other countries use the same thing? | ::I beleive he is referring to this picture I just put up. The two bars represent a "Captain" and those Two bars are used by U.S. Forces. Im not sure do other countries use the same thing? [[Image:Keyes Ribbons.jpg|thumb|200px|right|The various ribbons of Keyes.]]--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 22:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
:::Those aren't the shoulder ignsigna that are in dispute in this article and yes other countries use those bars and the title "Captain" for that matter -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 01:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC) | :::Those aren't the shoulder ignsigna that are in dispute in this article and yes other countries use those bars and the title "Captain" for that matter -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 01:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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:God you people can't even get your stories straight about what is what in the American ranking system! THIS is exactly why we should erase all the ranks until Bungie releases a ranking system. So now we have two American badges: -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 11:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | :God you people can't even get your stories straight about what is what in the American ranking system! THIS is exactly why we should erase all the ranks until Bungie releases a ranking system. So now we have two American badges: -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 11:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
[[Image:MC_Sgt_e5.gif|thumb|left|200px|Insignia of an American Sergeant according to [[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]]]] | |||
[[Image:Sergent insignia.png|thumb|100px|Insignia of an American Sergeant according to [[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]]]] | |||
For Gods Sake, DO it how you like then, your like a bunch of Crying Babies some one from a different country will see it and think no that’s not right our rank looks like this. Just stick a insignia on it and be done --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 11:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | For Gods Sake, DO it how you like then, your like a bunch of Crying Babies some one from a different country will see it and think no that’s not right our rank looks like this. Just stick a insignia on it and be done --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 11:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Halopedia IS NOT a place for guess work! We don't just say, "Oh this is pretty, this image is the new face for [[ | :Halopedia IS NOT a place for guess work! We don't just say, "Oh this is pretty, this image is the new face for [[Master Chief]]!" We find a source, have evidence and then post it. -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 22:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
Hey Yamanba your the wrong person to try and get these deleted because you know nothing both of these Insignia are american Sergeants there are alot of ranks with Sergeant in the name most of witch are called Sergeant because its quicker to say.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 18:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | Hey Yamanba your the wrong person to try and get these deleted because you know nothing both of these Insignia are american Sergeants there are alot of ranks with Sergeant in the name most of witch are called Sergeant because its quicker to say.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 18:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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*The symbol to the left is the '''United States Marine Corps''' sergeant rank. The symbol to the right is the '''United States Army''' sergeant rank. They are ''not'' the same, and the UMSC symbol is the more likely candidate. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | *The symbol to the left is the '''United States Marine Corps''' sergeant rank. The symbol to the right is the '''United States Army''' sergeant rank. They are ''not'' the same, and the UMSC symbol is the more likely candidate. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Exactly, what I would of said, had I been here before ED. Well said ED. --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 22:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | :Exactly, what I would of said, had I been here before ED. Well said ED. --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 22:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
:Exactly as [[User:ED|ED]] said, [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is|Halopedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information about the American Military]] | :Exactly as [[User:ED|ED]] said, [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is not|Halopedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information about the American Military]] | ||
:Exactly as [[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] said, "In any case, just because a user edits a page to say something, it doesn't mean that's the truth"! A statement on Halopedia must have proof. WHERE is the picture of the shoulder patchs that confirm your FanFantasy Image of the Sergeant Stripes? -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 01:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC) | :Exactly as [[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] said, "In any case, just because a user edits a page to say something, it doesn't mean that's the truth"! A statement on Halopedia must have proof. WHERE is the picture of the shoulder patchs that confirm your FanFantasy Image of the Sergeant Stripes? -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 01:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
Is this still going on!, i forgot i was looking for a Merine insignia American Merine would be right as they are Merines. Bungie most likly hasnt made a whole rank system yet anyway --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 17:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | Is this still going on!, i forgot i was looking for a Merine insignia American Merine would be right as they are Merines. Bungie most likly hasnt made a whole rank system yet anyway --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 17:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
== | ==I'm not going to bother reading your boring threads== | ||
*Ok, first, I would like to point out, not only am I lazy, but I am not going to read all of those posts because half of them are meaningless. Now that that has been said, I would like to point a few things out. Thus far, the UNSC ranking system of both the Marines and Navy has followed American ranking to the letter. The British Royal Marines might have a Sergeant, but do they also have a Staff Sergeant, Gunnery Sergeant, and Sergeant Major? The Royal Navy may have a Captain, but do they also Ensign, Commander, and Master Chief Petty Officer? Remember that both Microsoft and Bungie hail from America, as does Eric Nylund. I think it is safe to assume that they follow an American ranking structure. I am not saying to assume, just that it would be safe to do so. Next, I saw a tad bit of...I don't know what to call it...ignorance is probably a good word for it. The image of an American Sergeant by [[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] is that of a American Marine Corps Sergeant. The other, by [[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]], is that of an American Army Sergeant. There is a difference. Finally, I believe the image on the page that we are debating about says "Insignia of a Sergeant in the Present Day USMC". What is the argument about? It says right there that it is '''not''' the rank that a Sergeant in Halo might wear, but rather than of an American Marine Corps Sergeant of 2006.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 18:05, 05 December 2006 | |||
:*Well you think the ranks are right thats good for you its great to have more people with common sence now.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 13:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:*Well I'm glad you agree with me that we should delete all the ranks that are not mentioned in the Halo canon. Obviously you've read Halopedia policy that stats that Halopedia IS NOT a place for [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is not|non-Halopedia realated info aka indiscriminate information]]. I glad someone finally has the guts to say DELETE this fanfiction! Halo is not a place to have articles about TODAY, 2006 military ranks! I'm glad you're following Halopedia policy just like me. Don't worry though there are others you agree that this fiction should be deleted. [[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] has added Realworld templates to all the ranks that should be deleted because they have nothing to do with the halo Universe and are just collections of indiscriminate information, which as we all know is AGAINST [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is not|Halopedia policy]] and those that post random non-Halo related articles risk getting banned.-- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 15:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
How about we just have articles about the ranks that have been seen in the books and games.?--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 22:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
Wait, [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]], are you implying the rank Sergeant is fanfiction, or just the picture? If you think the entire rank is fanfiction...I don't even know what to say. Try reading [[Sergeant Corly]] and [[Sergeant Parker]]. Are those fanfic too? Do I have to give you page numbers out of [[Halo: The Flood]] in order for this to end? | |||
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