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I made this article so people who have played the game series who do not understand what sentient means so they can look here and understand it.
I made this article so people who have played the game series who do not understand what sentient means so they can look here and understand it.


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== Wrong def. of sentient... ==
== Wrong def. of sentient... ==


Sentient means having [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness consciousness], being able to perceive. The term this article is referring to is sapience. [[User talk:Jabberwock xeno|Jabberwock xeno]] 23:22, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
Sentient means being [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness consciousness], being able to precive. The term this arcticle is reffering to is sapience. [[User talk:Jabberwock xeno|Jabberwock xeno]] 23:22, May 8, 2010 (UTC)


==Proposal: Move to "Sapience"==
==Proposal: Move to "Sapience"==
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===Support===
===Support===
*{{Support}} -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:47, 21 January 2012 (EST)
*{{Support}} -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:47, 21 January 2012 (EST)
 
*{{Support}} -- The Halo Array was designed to starve the Flood by targeting its hosts. The Flood can hijack anything with a nervous system, so the Halo Array neutralized neurons. That means that when concerning the Halo Array, the proper term to use is indeed "sentience" as the Halo Array kills all sentient organisms. When concerning different species' capacity for self-awareness, self-reflection, wisdom, etcetera, the proper term is "sapience". The two terms are very different, and the distinction between them is important to the Halo lore. [[User:Eipok Kruden|<b><font color=indigo>Eipok Kruden</font></b>]] 05:11, 21 June, 2015 (PDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
*{{Oppose}} -- I think the sole reason for this article to exist is the fact sentience is canonically significant, in relation to the Halo Array, smart AIs and the hypothetical concept of "transsentience". Meanwhile, an article on sapience wouldn't have much relevant in-universe content besides defining the word. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:22, 22 January 2012 (EST)
*{{Oppose}} -- I think the sole reason for this article to exist is the fact sentience is canonically significant, in relation to the Halo Array, smart AIs and the hypothetical concept of "transsentience". Meanwhile, an article on sapience wouldn't have much relevant in-universe content besides defining the word. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:22, 22 January 2012 (EST)


*{{Oppose}} -- The word "sapient" isn't used in the series; only "sentient". We should just re-write the article; replace the definition of sapient (the ability to act with judgement) with that of sentient (to feel and perceive).-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 18:22, 21 January 2012 (EST)
===Comments===
The word "sapient" isn't used in the series; only "sentient". We should just re-write the article; replace the definition of sapient (the ability to act with judgement) with that of sentient (to feel and perceive).-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 18:22, 21 January 2012 (EST)


*{{Oppose}} - As per Forerunner.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:That different is pretty big, in fact. While a full conciousness can only be confirmed amongst humans - a being acting on their own will rather than just by instinct, there are many sentient animals. That makes the Halo Array much more deadly, particularly to mammals.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 18:27, 21 January 2012 (EST)


===Comments===
{{Neutral}} - As per Forerunner.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
That different is pretty big, in fact. While a full conciousness can only be confirmed amongst humans - a being acting on their own will rather than just by instinct, there are many sentient animals. That makes the Halo Array much more deadly, particularly to mammals.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 18:27, 21 January 2012 (EST)

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