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Why is it that on some Zealot armour, the underarms and back of the legs have orange lights and some have blue? User:Joshua 029 | Why is it that on some Zealot armour, the underarms and back of the legs have orange lights and some have blue? User:Joshua 029 | ||
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[[User:James-001|James-001]] 23:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC) | [[User:James-001|James-001]] 23:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
It was used many places, including in the game itself. An elite in the level [[Uprising]] calls the golden armored elite "Zealot". I've also heard Cortana call the gold elites Zealots. --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | It was used many places, including in the game itself. An elite in the level [[Uprising]] calls the golden armored elite "Zealot". I've also heard Cortana call the gold elites Zealots. --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] [[File:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
Does anyone think Zealots could be a holy person on the battle field. Like warrior monks. They use the ceremonial sword and give blessings. Maybe they are sub commanders under full field commanders. Just an idea. {{unsigned|90.201.70.150}} | Does anyone think Zealots could be a holy person on the battle field. Like warrior monks. They use the ceremonial sword and give blessings. Maybe they are sub commanders under full field commanders. Just an idea. {{unsigned|90.201.70.150}} | ||
:Zealots aren't really "holy"; plus, field commanders? Sounds more like [[Field Master|Field ''Master'']], who are Zealots. <span title="I am not an employee of Wikia.">Çya</span>, [[ | :Zealots aren't really "holy"; plus, field commanders? Sounds more like [[Field Master|Field ''Master'']], who are Zealots. <span title="I am not an employee of Wikia.">Çya</span>, [[w:c:halo:User:Mouse among men|<font color="black">M</font>]][[w:c:halo:User talk:Mouse among men|<font color="black">ø</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mouse among men|<font color="black">u</font>]][[w:c:halo:Halopedia:Parasite of Halopedia|<font color="black">s</font>]][[w:c:halo:User:Mouse among men/Sandbox|<font color="black">e</font>]] 19:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== No Zealots in Halo 3? == | == No Zealots in Halo 3? == | ||
Mystery Zealot | [[File:h3_zealot.jpg|thumb|Mystery Zealot]] | ||
I saw this picture on the main page. | I saw this picture on the main page. | ||
No Zealots in Halo 3? There is also a picture of a Zealot in halo3.com. My theory is that these are pics from multiplayer. | No Zealots in Halo 3? There is also a picture of a Zealot in halo3.com. My theory is that these are pics from multiplayer. | ||
:Your theory would be correct. No Zealots are seen in Halo Campaign (at least I've not seen any, and I've played through it many times). That is a multiplayer pic on the level Last Resort with custom Elite armor. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 11:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC) | :Your theory would be correct. No Zealots are seen in Halo Campaign (at least I've not seen any, and I've played through it many times). That is a multiplayer pic on the level Last Resort with custom Elite armor. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[File:Us_flag.jpg|15px]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 11:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
If I'm not mistaken, that's the windmill in to the side through the window. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"See my footprints"</font>]]</sup> 16:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC) | If I'm not mistaken, that's the windmill in to the side through the window. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"See my footprints"</font>]]</sup> 16:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Actually, it's taken inside the base. On the left side of the pic is the "windows" that you can knock down. On the right side of the pic is the interior of the base with a glimpse of the turbine that powers the Wind Wheel. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 16:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC) | :Actually, it's taken inside the base. On the left side of the pic is the "windows" that you can knock down. On the right side of the pic is the interior of the base with a glimpse of the turbine that powers the Wind Wheel. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[File:Us_flag.jpg|15px]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 16:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
Maybe the Zealot lovers (ie me) could petition Bungie to make a downloadable patch to make one of the elites dropped in The Covenant a Zealot. PS it makes sense there are no Zealots as Rtas Vadum leads the forces that render assistance to Earth. | Maybe the Zealot lovers (ie me) could petition Bungie to make a downloadable patch to make one of the elites dropped in The Covenant a Zealot. PS it makes sense there are no Zealots as Rtas Vadum leads the forces that render assistance to Earth. | ||
Zealot perm created by TheLostJedi. All I know is that there is a picture of an orange elite in this article and its being labled as a gold armored Zealot. That picture should be removed from the page. [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 02:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | [[File:TLJ Zealot.PNG|thumb|left|Zealot perm created by TheLostJedi.]]All I know is that there is a picture of an orange elite in this article and its being labled as a gold armored Zealot. That picture should be removed from the page. [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 02:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
That's actually a picture I uploaded for use on the Sangheili page, so I could show Elites using human weapons. It is orange, not gold, and it is nothing like a Zealot. It should be removed. --[[User:Jaeryd|Jaeryd]] 00:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | That's actually a picture I uploaded for use on the Sangheili page, so I could show Elites using human weapons. It is orange, not gold, and it is nothing like a Zealot. It should be removed. --[[User:Jaeryd|Jaeryd]] 00:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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==Halo 3 Assumed Sangheili Zealots Pix Removed?== | ==Halo 3 Assumed Sangheili Zealots Pix Removed?== | ||
How a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''. | [[File:Halo3-SangheiliZealot2-transparent.png|left|200px|thumb|How a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''.]] | ||
Another render of how a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''. | [[File:Halo3-SangheiliZealot1-transparent.png|right|200px|thumb|Another render of how a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''.]] | ||
I noticed that just recently these two images which I uploaded to Halopedia and posted in the Gallery section of the article, that these two renders were removed. What happened? A few months, weeks or days ago these were just fine, nobody seemed to mind that they were in the article. I know that may not exactly be ''canon'', since they were never seen in-game in ''Halo 3'', but they are most definitely from ''Halo'', or just from ''Halo'' multiplayer content. Could someone please explain to me why these were removed? And furthermore, explain why or why not they should or should not be removed from the article? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 14:52, 21 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | I noticed that just recently these two images which I uploaded to Halopedia and posted in the Gallery section of the article, that these two renders were removed. What happened? A few months, weeks or days ago these were just fine, nobody seemed to mind that they were in the article. I know that may not exactly be ''canon'', since they were never seen in-game in ''Halo 3'', but they are most definitely from ''Halo'', or just from ''Halo'' multiplayer content. Could someone please explain to me why these were removed? And furthermore, explain why or why not they should or should not be removed from the article? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 14:52, 21 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | ||
As you said, they're not canon. If you want to add multiplayer content, add them to the Sangheili or Multiplayer pages. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:27, 22 October 2011 (EDT)! | As you said, they're not canon. If you want to add multiplayer content, add them to the Sangheili or Multiplayer pages. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:27, 22 October 2011 (EDT)! | ||
==Zealot Pics== | ==Zealot Pics== | ||
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What about the Plasma Rifle Zealots from Halo: CE? Also, maybe there might be Needle Rifle Zealots? Any comments on this? [[User talk:Sliding Ghost|Sliding Ghost]] 22:22, January 30, 2010 (UTC) | What about the Plasma Rifle Zealots from Halo: CE? Also, maybe there might be Needle Rifle Zealots? Any comments on this? [[User talk:Sliding Ghost|Sliding Ghost]] 22:22, January 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== De Facto Commander as an actual Title == | == De Facto Commander as an actual Title == | ||
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:Judging by this, it could be inferred that most of the golden Elites encountered in the previous games are actually Generals instead of Zealots (except for the ones that have been specifically confirmed to be Zealots, such as the one at H2's Uprising or Thel in H2's opening). Like you said, the special forces Zealots would wear maroon armor while Zealot commanders like Thel wear gold armor. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:31, 25 November 2010 (EST) | :Judging by this, it could be inferred that most of the golden Elites encountered in the previous games are actually Generals instead of Zealots (except for the ones that have been specifically confirmed to be Zealots, such as the one at H2's Uprising or Thel in H2's opening). Like you said, the special forces Zealots would wear maroon armor while Zealot commanders like Thel wear gold armor. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:31, 25 November 2010 (EST) | ||
{{Article | {{Article Quote|... it could be inferred that most of the golden Elites encountered in the previous games are actually Generals instead of Zealots}} | ||
::Now, this is the one that confuses me. [[Talk:Sangheili General|What Corpora]] just said makes the most sense for now, that all of the gold-armoured Elites we've encountered in the past are Zealots, and that trying to impose new canon on old canon seems futile (to make sense of canon, in a way). Care to clarify? :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 17:26, 25 November 2010 (EST) | ::Now, this is the one that confuses me. [[Talk:Sangheili General|What Corpora]] just said makes the most sense for now, that all of the gold-armoured Elites we've encountered in the past are Zealots, and that trying to impose new canon on old canon seems futile (to make sense of canon, in a way). Care to clarify? :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 17:26, 25 November 2010 (EST) | ||
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Precisely. The whole system right now regarding Zealots is flawed and ambiguous. I am in favor of reworking the articles, however I'm sure it is against some sort of rule to simply change everything based on my interpretation. There needs to be some sort of consensus.--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 17:22, 20 October 2011 (EDT) | Precisely. The whole system right now regarding Zealots is flawed and ambiguous. I am in favor of reworking the articles, however I'm sure it is against some sort of rule to simply change everything based on my interpretation. There needs to be some sort of consensus.--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 17:22, 20 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
Having just reread Ghosts of Onyx, don't forget that Xytan appears to promote Voro to Fleet Master, making it kinda more like a rank. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:37, 22 October 2011 (EDT)! | Having just reread Ghosts of Onyx, don't forget that Xytan appears to promote Voro to Fleet Master, making it kinda more like a rank. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:37, 22 October 2011 (EDT)! | ||
== Gold armor = Zealot? == | == Gold armor = Zealot? == | ||
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It's also interesting to note that they are using the Reach Zealot Armor in Anniversary but with a Gold Color. [[user:ArchedThunder]] | It's also interesting to note that they are using the Reach Zealot Armor in Anniversary but with a Gold Color. [[user:ArchedThunder]] | ||
If you have a picture of a Zealot in Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary that would great! Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:35, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | If you have a picture of a Zealot in Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary that would great! Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:35, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
The reason I'm questioning this is because there is sufficient evidence to assume that Voro Nar 'Mantakree, who used gold armor as a fleet master, was not a Zealot at any point; he was a major by the time he assumed the role of shipmaster, but wore gold armor when he faced Kurt-051 on Onyx. Since we now know Zealots are a separate group, it's not likely Voro would have become one somewhere between the battle at Installation 05 and his death on Onyx, not only because of the short timeframe but also his distinctively non-zealous views on the Covenant religion. It's also fairly apparent he wasn't a general, so it seems he wore gold armor purely as an indication of his position. | The reason I'm questioning this is because there is sufficient evidence to assume that Voro Nar 'Mantakree, who used gold armor as a fleet master, was not a Zealot at any point; he was a major by the time he assumed the role of shipmaster, but wore gold armor when he faced Kurt-051 on Onyx. Since we now know Zealots are a separate group, it's not likely Voro would have become one somewhere between the battle at Installation 05 and his death on Onyx, not only because of the short timeframe but also his distinctively non-zealous views on the Covenant religion. It's also fairly apparent he wasn't a general, so it seems he wore gold armor purely as an indication of his position. | ||
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This may imply that gold armor isn't tied to a particular rank or group (Zealot or General) but represents the wearer's status as a shipmaster, field master or fleet master. As we've seen, not all shipmasters wear gold armor, so it may be a choice. It should be noted, though, that both of the shipmasters who don't wear gold armor (Rtas 'Vadum and the one from ''The Return'') appear to be Special Operations commanders, so it's possible the silver armor of a commander is regarded as an equal indicator of authority as a gold armor. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:24, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | This may imply that gold armor isn't tied to a particular rank or group (Zealot or General) but represents the wearer's status as a shipmaster, field master or fleet master. As we've seen, not all shipmasters wear gold armor, so it may be a choice. It should be noted, though, that both of the shipmasters who don't wear gold armor (Rtas 'Vadum and the one from ''The Return'') appear to be Special Operations commanders, so it's possible the silver armor of a commander is regarded as an equal indicator of authority as a gold armor. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:24, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:''In response to your first paragraph'': Nope, sorry. Your forgetting a very important part in the book. The Imperial Admiral PROMOTES Voro to the rank of Fleet Master when they had their meeting. Also, while aboard the ''Incorruptible''; I believe that Voro did something bad, and his bridge members/the Mgalekgolo could have --if they wanted to-- killed him for obviously murdering their shipmaster, but they all just decided to go along with it. So he was not officially a Zealot then, but, after his meeting with Xytan he is officially promoted to Fleet Master (talk about skipping a rank!). Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 13:46, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!!! | :''In response to your first paragraph'': Nope, sorry. Your forgetting a very important part in the book. The Imperial Admiral PROMOTES Voro to the rank of Fleet Master when they had their meeting. Also, while aboard the ''Incorruptible''; I believe that Voro did something bad, and his bridge members/the Mgalekgolo could have --if they wanted to-- killed him for obviously murdering their shipmaster, but they all just decided to go along with it. So he was not officially a Zealot then, but, after his meeting with Xytan he is officially promoted to Fleet Master (talk about skipping a rank!). Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 13:46, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!!! | ||
::Voro was promoted to Fleet Master, but no one said he became a Zealot. The whole issue here is that in light of the new information on Zealots, it seems that one doesn't need to be a Zealot in order to be a Ship/Field/Fleet Master. That was always simply a supposition based on the fact they all wear gold armor, but it has never been confirmed in official material. | ::Voro was promoted to Fleet Master, but no one said he became a Zealot. The whole issue here is that in light of the new information on Zealots, it seems that one doesn't need to be a Zealot in order to be a Ship/Field/Fleet Master. That was always simply a supposition based on the fact they all wear gold armor, but it has never been confirmed in official material. | ||
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::Now, beyond accepting the fact the aforementioned titles aren't necessarily exclusive to the Zealot-class, it's still up to interpretation how exactly the ranking system works. It seems clear Shipmaster is simply a title given to anyone in charge of a ship, but I think the question here is whether Field Master and Fleet Master are actual ranks, or roles that may be assumed by any high-ranking individual, Zealot or not. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 14:12, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ::Now, beyond accepting the fact the aforementioned titles aren't necessarily exclusive to the Zealot-class, it's still up to interpretation how exactly the ranking system works. It seems clear Shipmaster is simply a title given to anyone in charge of a ship, but I think the question here is whether Field Master and Fleet Master are actual ranks, or roles that may be assumed by any high-ranking individual, Zealot or not. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 14:12, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Or, it is also possible, that ZEALOT is a title, which includes everything in it. So for example, Rtas would be both a Commander and a Zealot. So kinda like what we all said above, but with Zealots in general. | ::Or, it is also possible, that ZEALOT is a title, which includes everything in it. So for example, Rtas would be both a Commander and a Zealot. So kinda like what we all said above, but with Zealots in general. Also, don't forget that we've seen gold-armored Elites being Zealots for ALL of Halo history (they've been referred to as Zealots throughout everything), and now we have one special instance of multiple Zealots together forming a special strike team. I think it may be that those Zealots in Reach are -masters, but since this was a mission of "high importance" that needed to be executed quickly, efficiently, and without failure, they composed a team fully of Zealots. The only question this raises is isn't that the job of Special Operations Sangheili (perhaps because they were looking for something uber important)? But besides for that I think that it all fits pretty well. As for their armor, look below. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 14:26, 23 October 2011 (EDT)! | ||
:''The Essential Visual Guide'' outright states that the gold-armored Elites seen in ''Combat Evolved'' and ''Halo 2'' are Zealots, though, to be technical, it doesn't specify that they are ''all'' Zealots. Anyway, like Jugus said, gold-colored armor isn't necessarily a symbol of rank; more likely, it simply means the wearer has a high position and a lofty title - Field Master, Fleet Master, ''et cetera'' - regardless of his true rank. Perhaps golden armor indicates that the wearer is involved in high-profile, overt operations, like 'Putumee (Field Master), 'Mantakree (Fleet Master), and 'Taralumee (Supreme Commander), while white/silver armor represents that the wearer is involved in more ''subtle'' work, like Rtas 'Vadum. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:44, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | :''The Essential Visual Guide'' outright states that the gold-armored Elites seen in ''Combat Evolved'' and ''Halo 2'' are Zealots, though, to be technical, it doesn't specify that they are ''all'' Zealots. Anyway, like Jugus said, gold-colored armor isn't necessarily a symbol of rank; more likely, it simply means the wearer has a high position and a lofty title - Field Master, Fleet Master, ''et cetera'' - regardless of his true rank. Perhaps golden armor indicates that the wearer is involved in high-profile, overt operations, like 'Putumee (Field Master), 'Mantakree (Fleet Master), and 'Taralumee (Supreme Commander), while white/silver armor represents that the wearer is involved in more ''subtle'' work, like Rtas 'Vadum. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:44, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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:The easiest way to explain it would be that Zealots tasked with infiltration and artifact hunting are clad in maroon armor, while ones assigned to command duties wear the gold armor we've seen in the previous games. As per above, the gold coloration would serve to identify them as commanders who serve alongside regular forces as opposed to artifact recovery detachments who operate independently. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:21, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | :The easiest way to explain it would be that Zealots tasked with infiltration and artifact hunting are clad in maroon armor, while ones assigned to command duties wear the gold armor we've seen in the previous games. As per above, the gold coloration would serve to identify them as commanders who serve alongside regular forces as opposed to artifact recovery detachments who operate independently. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:21, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Not to mention that if you're trying to be subtle, going in with shiny gold armor isn't the best way to do it. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 13:50, 23 October 2011 (EDT)! | |||
::Not to mention that if you're trying to be subtle, going in with shiny gold armor isn't the best way to do it. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[ | |||