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==Underarms==
Why is it that on some Zealot armour, the underarms and back of the legs have orange lights and some have blue? User:Joshua 029
Why is it that on some Zealot armour, the underarms and back of the legs have orange lights and some have blue? User:Joshua 029


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[[User:James-001|James-001]] 23:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[[User:James-001|James-001]] 23:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


It was used many places, including in the game itself. An elite in the level [[Uprising]] calls the golden armored elite "Zealot". I've also heard Cortana call the gold elites Zealots. --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
It was used many places, including in the game itself. An elite in the level [[Uprising]] calls the golden armored elite "Zealot". I've also heard Cortana call the gold elites Zealots. --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] [[File:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 03:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


Does anyone think Zealots could be a holy person on the battle field. Like warrior monks. They use the ceremonial sword and give blessings. Maybe they are sub commanders under full field commanders. Just an idea. {{unsigned|90.201.70.150}}
Does anyone think Zealots could be a holy person on the battle field. Like warrior monks. They use the ceremonial sword and give blessings. Maybe they are sub commanders under full field commanders. Just an idea. {{unsigned|90.201.70.150}}
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== No Zealots in Halo 3? ==
== No Zealots in Halo 3? ==


Mystery Zealot
[[File:h3_zealot.jpg|thumb|Mystery Zealot]]
I saw this picture on the main page.  
I saw this picture on the main page.  
No Zealots in Halo 3? There is also a picture of a Zealot in halo3.com. My theory is that these are pics from multiplayer.
No Zealots in Halo 3? There is also a picture of a Zealot in halo3.com. My theory is that these are pics from multiplayer.


:Your theory would be correct. No Zealots are seen in Halo Campaign (at least I've not seen any, and I've played through it many times). That is a multiplayer pic on the level Last Resort with custom Elite armor. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 11:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:Your theory would be correct. No Zealots are seen in Halo Campaign (at least I've not seen any, and I've played through it many times). That is a multiplayer pic on the level Last Resort with custom Elite armor. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[File:Us_flag.jpg|15px]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 11:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


If I'm not mistaken, that's the windmill in to the side through the window. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"See my footprints"</font>]]</sup> 16:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, that's the windmill in to the side through the window. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] </sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">"See my footprints"</font>]]</sup> 16:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


:Actually,  it's taken inside the base. On the left side of the pic is the "windows" that you can knock down. On the right side of the pic is the interior of the base with a glimpse of the turbine that powers the Wind Wheel. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 16:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:Actually,  it's taken inside the base. On the left side of the pic is the "windows" that you can knock down. On the right side of the pic is the interior of the base with a glimpse of the turbine that powers the Wind Wheel. -- <b>[[User:Dukester101|<font color="#000099">Dukester</font><font color="#990011">101</font>]] [[File:Us_flag.jpg|15px]] [[User talk:Dukester101|<sub><font color="#000000">''TALK''</font></sub>]]</b> 16:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


Maybe the Zealot lovers (ie me) could petition Bungie to make a downloadable patch to make one of the elites dropped in The Covenant a Zealot. PS it makes sense there are no Zealots as Rtas Vadum leads the forces that render assistance to Earth.
Maybe the Zealot lovers (ie me) could petition Bungie to make a downloadable patch to make one of the elites dropped in The Covenant a Zealot. PS it makes sense there are no Zealots as Rtas Vadum leads the forces that render assistance to Earth.


Zealot perm created by TheLostJedi. All I know is that there is a picture of an orange elite in this article and its being labled as a gold armored Zealot. That picture should be removed from the page. [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 02:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
[[File:TLJ Zealot.PNG|thumb|left|Zealot perm created by TheLostJedi.]]All I know is that there is a picture of an orange elite in this article and its being labled as a gold armored Zealot. That picture should be removed from the page. [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 02:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


That's actually a picture I uploaded for use on the Sangheili page, so I could show Elites using human weapons. It is orange, not gold, and it is nothing like a Zealot. It should be removed. --[[User:Jaeryd|Jaeryd]] 00:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
That's actually a picture I uploaded for use on the Sangheili page, so I could show Elites using human weapons. It is orange, not gold, and it is nothing like a Zealot. It should be removed. --[[User:Jaeryd|Jaeryd]] 00:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
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==Halo 3 Assumed Sangheili Zealots Pix Removed?==
==Halo 3 Assumed Sangheili Zealots Pix Removed?==
How a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''.
[[File:Halo3-SangheiliZealot2.png|left|200px|thumb|How a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''.]]
Another render of how a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''.
[[File:Halo3-SangheiliZealot1.png|right|200px|thumb|Another render of how a Sangheili Zealot would looked like in ''Halo 3''.]]


I noticed that just recently these two images which I uploaded to Halopedia and posted in the Gallery section of the article, that these two renders were removed. What happened? A few months, weeks or days ago these were just fine, nobody seemed to mind that they were in the article. I know that may not exactly be ''canon'', since they were never seen in-game in ''Halo 3'', but they are most definitely from ''Halo'', or just from ''Halo'' multiplayer content. Could someone please explain to me why these were removed? And furthermore, explain why or why not they should or should not be removed from the article? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 14:52, 21 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
I noticed that just recently these two images which I uploaded to Halopedia and posted in the Gallery section of the article, that these two renders were removed. What happened? A few months, weeks or days ago these were just fine, nobody seemed to mind that they were in the article. I know that may not exactly be ''canon'', since they were never seen in-game in ''Halo 3'', but they are most definitely from ''Halo'', or just from ''Halo'' multiplayer content. Could someone please explain to me why these were removed? And furthermore, explain why or why not they should or should not be removed from the article? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 14:52, 21 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330


As you said, they're not canon.  If you want to add multiplayer content, add them to the Sangheili or Multiplayer pages. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:27, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!
As you said, they're not canon.  If you want to add multiplayer content, add them to the Sangheili or Multiplayer pages. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:27, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!


Maybe I will do just that. I want them to be added somewhere. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 12:46, 25 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
Maybe I will do just that. I want them to be added somewhere. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 12:46, 25 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
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Precisely. The whole system right now regarding Zealots is flawed and ambiguous. I am in favor of reworking the articles, however I'm sure it is against some sort of rule to simply change everything based on my interpretation. There needs to be some sort of consensus.--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 17:22, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
Precisely. The whole system right now regarding Zealots is flawed and ambiguous. I am in favor of reworking the articles, however I'm sure it is against some sort of rule to simply change everything based on my interpretation. There needs to be some sort of consensus.--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 17:22, 20 October 2011 (EDT)


Having just reread Ghosts of Onyx, don't forget that Xytan appears to promote Voro to Fleet Master, making it kinda more like a rank. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:37, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!
Having just reread Ghosts of Onyx, don't forget that Xytan appears to promote Voro to Fleet Master, making it kinda more like a rank. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:37, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!


== Gold armor = Zealot? ==
== Gold armor = Zealot? ==
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It's also interesting to note that they are using the Reach Zealot Armor in Anniversary but with a Gold Color. [[user:ArchedThunder]]
It's also interesting to note that they are using the Reach Zealot Armor in Anniversary but with a Gold Color. [[user:ArchedThunder]]


If you have a picture of a Zealot in Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary that would great! Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:35, 22 October 2011 (EDT)
If you have a picture of a Zealot in Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary that would great! Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:35, 22 October 2011 (EDT)


The reason I'm questioning this is because there is sufficient evidence to assume that Voro Nar 'Mantakree, who used gold armor as a fleet master, was not a Zealot at any point; he was a major by the time he assumed the role of shipmaster, but wore gold armor when he faced Kurt-051 on Onyx. Since we now know Zealots are a separate group, it's not likely Voro would have become one somewhere between the battle at Installation 05 and his death on Onyx, not only because of the short timeframe but also his distinctively non-zealous views on the Covenant religion. It's also fairly apparent he wasn't a general, so it seems he wore gold armor purely as an indication of his position.
The reason I'm questioning this is because there is sufficient evidence to assume that Voro Nar 'Mantakree, who used gold armor as a fleet master, was not a Zealot at any point; he was a major by the time he assumed the role of shipmaster, but wore gold armor when he faced Kurt-051 on Onyx. Since we now know Zealots are a separate group, it's not likely Voro would have become one somewhere between the battle at Installation 05 and his death on Onyx, not only because of the short timeframe but also his distinctively non-zealous views on the Covenant religion. It's also fairly apparent he wasn't a general, so it seems he wore gold armor purely as an indication of his position.
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This may imply that gold armor isn't tied to a particular rank or group (Zealot or General) but represents the wearer's status as a shipmaster, field master or fleet master. As we've seen, not all shipmasters wear gold armor, so it may be a choice. It should be noted, though, that both of the shipmasters who don't wear gold armor (Rtas 'Vadum and the one from ''The Return'') appear to be Special Operations commanders, so it's possible the silver armor of a commander is regarded as an equal indicator of authority as a gold armor. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:24, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
This may imply that gold armor isn't tied to a particular rank or group (Zealot or General) but represents the wearer's status as a shipmaster, field master or fleet master. As we've seen, not all shipmasters wear gold armor, so it may be a choice. It should be noted, though, that both of the shipmasters who don't wear gold armor (Rtas 'Vadum and the one from ''The Return'') appear to be Special Operations commanders, so it's possible the silver armor of a commander is regarded as an equal indicator of authority as a gold armor. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:24, 23 October 2011 (EDT)


:''In response to your first paragraph'': Nope, sorry.  Your forgetting a very important part in the book.  The Imperial Admiral PROMOTES Voro to the rank of Fleet Master when they had their meeting.  Also, while aboard the ''Incorruptible''; I believe that Voro did something bad, and his bridge members/the Mgalekgolo could have --if they wanted to-- killed him for obviously murdering their shipmaster, but they all just decided to go along with it.  So he was not officially a Zealot then, but, after his meeting with Xytan he is officially promoted to Fleet Master (talk about skipping a rank!). Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:46, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!!!
:''In response to your first paragraph'': Nope, sorry.  Your forgetting a very important part in the book.  The Imperial Admiral PROMOTES Voro to the rank of Fleet Master when they had their meeting.  Also, while aboard the ''Incorruptible''; I believe that Voro did something bad, and his bridge members/the Mgalekgolo could have --if they wanted to-- killed him for obviously murdering their shipmaster, but they all just decided to go along with it.  So he was not officially a Zealot then, but, after his meeting with Xytan he is officially promoted to Fleet Master (talk about skipping a rank!). Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:46, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!!!


::Voro was promoted to Fleet Master, but no one said he became a Zealot. The whole issue here is that in light of the new information on Zealots, it seems that one doesn't need to be a Zealot in order to be a Ship/Field/Fleet Master. That was always simply a supposition based on the fact they all wear gold armor, but it has never been confirmed in official material.  
::Voro was promoted to Fleet Master, but no one said he became a Zealot. The whole issue here is that in light of the new information on Zealots, it seems that one doesn't need to be a Zealot in order to be a Ship/Field/Fleet Master. That was always simply a supposition based on the fact they all wear gold armor, but it has never been confirmed in official material.  
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::Or, it is also possible, that ZEALOT is a title, which includes everything in it.  So for example, Rtas would be both a Commander and a Zealot.  So kinda like what we all said above, but with Zealots in general.   
::Or, it is also possible, that ZEALOT is a title, which includes everything in it.  So for example, Rtas would be both a Commander and a Zealot.  So kinda like what we all said above, but with Zealots in general.   


::Alternatively, don't forget that we've seen gold-armored Elites being Zealots for ALL of Halo history (they've been referred to as Zealots throughout everything), and now we have one special instance of multiple Zealots together forming a special strike team.  I think it may be that those Zealots in Reach are -masters, but since this was a mission of "high importance" that needed to be executed quickly, efficiently, and without failure, they composed a team fully of Zealots.  The only question this raises is isn't that the job of Special Operations Sangheili (perhaps because they were looking for something uber important)?  But besides for that I think that it all fits pretty well.  As for their armor, look below. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  14:26, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!
::Alternatively, don't forget that we've seen gold-armored Elites being Zealots for ALL of Halo history (they've been referred to as Zealots throughout everything), and now we have one special instance of multiple Zealots together forming a special strike team.  I think it may be that those Zealots in Reach are -masters, but since this was a mission of "high importance" that needed to be executed quickly, efficiently, and without failure, they composed a team fully of Zealots.  The only question this raises is isn't that the job of Special Operations Sangheili (perhaps because they were looking for something uber important)?  But besides for that I think that it all fits pretty well.  As for their armor, look below. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  14:26, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!


::::I think the only time a golden-armored Elite has been referred to as a Zealot is a single instance in ''Halo 2'', in the level ''Uprising''; I wouldn't say that counts as "throughout everything". Feel free to point out if you can find more, though. Still, to me it seems more like an example of us fans jumping into conclusions based on limited information.
::::I think the only time a golden-armored Elite has been referred to as a Zealot is a single instance in ''Halo 2'', in the level ''Uprising''; I wouldn't say that counts as "throughout everything". Feel free to point out if you can find more, though. Still, to me it seems more like an example of us fans jumping into conclusions based on limited information.
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:::What about the Zealot in Foward Unto Dawn, then? Why would a lone wolf zealot be attacking the academy, chasing after cadets? http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9315/signxb.jpg 19:03, 4 November 2012 (EST)
:::What about the Zealot in Foward Unto Dawn, then? Why would a lone wolf zealot be attacking the academy, chasing after cadets? http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9315/signxb.jpg 19:03, 4 November 2012 (EST)


::Not to mention that if you're trying to be subtle, going in with shiny gold armor isn't the best way to do it. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:50, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!
::Not to mention that if you're trying to be subtle, going in with shiny gold armor isn't the best way to do it. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:50, 23 October 2011 (EDT)!


So basically what I said in my first reply to this section... lol--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 14:33, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
So basically what I said in my first reply to this section... lol--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 14:33, 24 October 2011 (EDT)


What if the Zealot armor in Reach was going out of circulation in the Covenant, or as mentioned earlier was a special circumstance of the infiltration teams led by Field Marshals, the only way we can know is if it's specifically stated. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 16:40, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
What if the Zealot armor in Reach was going out of circulation in the Covenant, or as mentioned earlier was a special circumstance of the infiltration teams led by Field Marshals, the only way we can know is if it's specifically stated. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 16:40, 24 October 2011 (EDT)


I don't know about this whole thing, but there's a Bishop Sangheili in Glasslands (OMG! READING IT NOW!), and he's described as wearing gold armor.  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  17:33, 24 October 2011 (EDT)!
I don't know about this whole thing, but there's a Bishop Sangheili in Glasslands (OMG! READING IT NOW!), and he's described as wearing gold armor.  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  17:33, 24 October 2011 (EDT)!


Bishop is the title Avu Med 'Telcam holds in the Servants of Abiding Truth. His title in the Covenant Military was Field Marshall. Implying he is most likely a General considering his Gold Armor. Or he is a Gold Zealot like the ones in CEA.--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 19:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
Bishop is the title Avu Med 'Telcam holds in the Servants of Abiding Truth. His title in the Covenant Military was Field Marshall. Implying he is most likely a General considering his Gold Armor. Or he is a Gold Zealot like the ones in CEA.--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 19:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

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