Editing Talk:Sangheili Ranger

== Gravity boots? ==

What makes you think they have gravity boots? '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">Guesty</font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">Persony</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green">Thingy</font>]]''' 01:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
:i'm rather doubtful too. Cheers <tt>[[user:RelentlessRecusant|49 Proximal Secant]]<sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|oracle]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup></tt>File:H3 Monitor.PNG|25px]] 01:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== What?  ==

It says that Rangers were the first elites ever encountered by MC during the fall of Reach.  That can't be because MC's been fighting for many years before that and for him never to encounter an elite is just stupid.  [[User:Fork|Fork]] 01:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

"first elites ever encountered by MC '''during''' the fall of Reach"

== "Explosive Decompression" ==

I removed that little comment about the supposed fate a Ranger faces should his pressure suit suffer a breach. Contrary to popular belief — a belief apparently sustained by some R-rated sci-fi films — living things do '''''not''''' explode when they are exposed to a vacuum. The human body can easily withstand a pressure drop of one atmosphere, and people can survive in space for at least a minute. Obviously, a humanoid alien with tougher skin than a human's can do so as well. Furthermore, the term "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive_decompression explosive decompression] refers to something else entirely.

Further reading: [http://www.sff.net/people/Geoffrey.Landis/vacuum.html]

<span style="font-family: HandelGothic BT; font-size: 12pt;">[[User:Rtas Vadumee|Rtas Vadumee]]</span> 04:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


== "First Strike" ==

In Halo: First Strike while in the Slipspace ananomoly, the Spartans were outside the Ascendant Justics repairing parts of the ship, they were engaged by elites in space, is it possible these Elites were Ranger Elites?
[[User:Spartansniper450|Spartansniper450]] June 19, 2008


== "Flight vs Assault" ==

In the article it says before anything else these elites were assault armor.  When in the trivia it says they were flight armor.  So which is it?  I think it is the assault for the armor the rangers were are 100% looking like the assault and not the flight.
[[User:DilaBagomee|DilaBagomee]] July 4, 2008

== first strike ==

i think it woud make sense for them to be rangers

Excuse me?--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato]] 06:56, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

== :O ==

Holy sh**, where did you get the new image? The Reach rangers look like effin' badasses. Stel' Vadam 03:25, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the Halo: Reach rangers look way too Human. I mistook them for Spartans when I first saw them. - [[User: Echo 1 | Echoes are all you hear... ]] 22:41, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I did too. While they definately look good, the design is too angular to be of Covenant origin and on top of that the armor's white, though the color might make them easier to spot while they're airborne. Also, notice how the armor is a bit bulky. To me, the two of the major aspects of Covie tech are the trademark purple and it's undeniably sleek design. All that aside, I'd love to see this as an armor permutation. [[Special:Contributions/80.222.44.24|80.222.44.24]] 17:29, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Go and be happy, it's a perm, and my fav one for elites in reach. [[User:TNT LotLP|Lordofthelargepants]] <sup> [[User talk: TNT LotLP|The Zipper]] and [[Special:Editcount/TNT LotLP|The Pockets]]</sup> 00:41, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Definitely my fave armor set for Elites. --[[User:Delta1138|Delta1138]] [[User_talk:Delta1138|SnooPING AS usual I see]] 12:33, 28 March 2011 (EDT)

== Look Carefully... ==

Is it me or can I see a face of a Ranger in Reach illuminated by a blue light? If I'm right, then its stated incorrectly.[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px|link=http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100506044451/halo/images/c/c7/Noblelogo.png&imgrefurl=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx%3FpostID%3D45947169&usg=__NgCyaMT0rwqrvEAvPTCb4dC6qFM=&h=1922&w=2152&sz=365&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=7PHQZBTJAGopNM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DNoble%2BTeam%2BLogo%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4ADFA_enAU369AU369%26biw%3D1345%26bih%3D498%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=330&vpy=58&dur=1951&hovh=212&hovw=238&tx=79&ty=237&ei=8uh0TJmQBIeEvAP7n8nNBg&oei=w-h0TLmGG5iMvAOTsqXuBQ&esq=4&page=1&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0]] <span style="border: 3px solid Black; -moz-border-radius:10px"><span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">'''[[User:Phoenix Marathon|<font color="Black">Lt.</font>]] [[User:Phoenix Marathon#Friends|<font color="Black">Commander</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|<font color="Tan">SPARTAN</font>]]-[[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Quotes|<font color="Black">1</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Awards|<font color="Black">1</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Top Favourites|<font color="Black">0</font>]] | [ [[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|<font color=”Blue”>COM/S</font>]] ]  [ [[Special:Editcount/Phoenix Marathon|<font color=”Blue”>LOG/S</font>]] ]'''''</span></span>

== "BOB"? ==

Looking at my Campaign record and medals, I discovered an Elite Ranger the bottom of my enemies list with the subtitle "BOB". There also seems to be a special Bungie.net medal for killing him. So, is this a special rank of Ranger? I remember seeing an orange Ranger on the Corvette's bridge, but why is he called Bob, and why does he have his own medal? You have to do a little digging, but you can find him on [http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/CareerStats/medals.aspx?player=That_Halo_Dude my Service Record]. '''''[[User:Spartan-055|<font color="orange">Captain Baird</font>]]''''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Spartan-055|<font color="green">Comm-Link</font>]]</sup>'''''<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan-055|<font color="blue">Service Record</font>]]</sub>'' 03:11, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

:I'm not sure if the "BOB" subtitle has any canon significance, but it's certainly a [http://marathongame.wikia.com/wiki/BOB ''Marathon'' reference]. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 03:21, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

::It's one of many series of hidden things in reach. there's data pads, hidden switchs, and bobs. check out haloreachplanet for more info. [[User talk:Jabberwock xeno|Jabberwock xeno]] 22:52, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

:::Another 'BOB' is on Mission 3 at Sword Base. After returning from the vehicle section into the base, if you make a left just before the Hunter section and backtrack to your insertion point from the start of the level, there is a Ranger in bright white armor with two Plasma Rifles that counts as a 'BOB' kill.
::::-- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 20:18, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
::::You guys need to catch up. I suggest you check Haloreachplanet.com, and the "Reach secerets" B.net group for info about BOB's, hidden switchs and the like. Seriously, there's like a huge hunt for this stuff. [[User talk:Jabberwock xeno|Jabberwock xeno]] 21:53, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

== Gah ==

In all game modes, the Elite's jaws clip through the Ranger face mask. The same goes for the Ultras. It's aggravating. D8 -- [[File:UNSC.png|10px|link=Special:Editcount/User:CoD addict]] [[User:CoD addict|<font color="grey">CoD addict</font>]] ([[User talk:CoD addict|<font color="darkgrey">talk</font>]]) 03:38, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think that only happens in splitscreen, but it still pisses me off a lot. I play splitscreen often, especially with my brother, so now I only use this armor when I know it will be OK. I REALLY hope Bungie fixes this glitch. --[[User:Delta1138|Delta1138]] [[User_talk:Delta1138|SnooPING AS usual I see]] 12:37, 28 March 2011 (EDT)


== Volunteer? ==

What happened to the Rangers being listed as a Volunteer corps?--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 22:24, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think that the Covenant allows you to volunteer. I believe they are forced to join the military.--[[User:Halofan1234|光环的家伙]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 00:20, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
:Source, and we will live happily ever after. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|Tank beats]] [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Everything!]])</sub> 05:00, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure there was a source listed whenever it stated it was a volunteer corps. But now that's gone, and I have not a clue where to start the search for said source. It could be anywhere in Halo 2, or possibly in one of the Novels. That is a lot of material to cover.--[[User talk:Xzan Tamasee|Xzan Tamasee]] 22:10, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:I'll  check the edit history. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 05:14, 8 January 2012 (EST)

::Ok. I searched for when the word "volunteer" was first used in the article. Specops306 made the edit at 03:56 on the 22nd December 2007:

::http://www.halopedian.com/index.php?title=Sangheili_Ranger&direction=next&oldid=178457

::You can see for yourself that there was a source. I have absolutely no idea what it is though. You might want to ask Specops306 about it. ;) -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 06:10, 8 January 2012 (EST)

:::I think [[Joyride Studios/Halo 2 Series 4#Ranger Elite|this]] will probably explain it. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 06:17, 8 January 2012 (EST)

::::As I understood it, the Ranger's are an elite, volunteer force who would take warriors from other branches. Military service in the Covenant may be compulsory, but acceptance as a Ranger would be much tougher. Somewhat analogous to the ODSTs - high-risk, high-value strike operations where a specific set of skills are required. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:13, 8 January 2012 (EST)
:::::I agree with that. I don't think any Sangheili would wake up one day and be a Ranger. Maybe they don't volunteer, but maybe they are recruited.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}

== Picture ==

Why not add the pictures of the Halo2A, Halo Reach and Halo 4 armours on top of the page, much like with the subtypes of Kig-Yar, Some people think one permutation retcons the other one so we could show that this is not the case now that we know that this is not the case. We can then do this with the minor, major, ultra, zealot and other articles.--[[User:The Master Builder|The Master Builder]] ([[User talk:The Master Builder|talk]]) 17:41, 2 April 2015 (EDT)

:It's true that neither of them retcon the other. But putting them all at the top seems like it would crowded, so we've opted for the highest-resolution and furthest-in-the-canon one. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:56, 2 April 2015 (EDT)

::Agreed - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 18:27, 2 April 2015 (EDT)

== Rangers ==

I'll just make this here, but we have gotten quite a lot of info on the Rangers recently (''Broken Circle'', ''Hunters in the Dark'', and ''Shadow of Intent'') and it's clear that the Rangers are an organization within the Covenant military and now the Swords of Sanghelios. This is something we kind of already knew, but I think it might be useful to have a page on the Rangers organization itself rather than just the rank. We could have a page on the Covenant one and the Swords of Sanghelios one, or we could put them under one article. Any thoughts? --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 16:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:I'm not sure another page is really needed. We could probably just handle it like we've done for the Zealot page.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 16:28, 8 January 2016 (EST)

::Yeah, I see your point, but honestly, my main concern is that it could just be useful to have info on the organization on one article [[Sangheili Ranger|instead]] [[Kig-Yar Ranger|of]] [[Unggoy Ranger|three]]. But I'm fine with waiting until we have more knowledge about the Rangers organization and structure before we do something. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 16:31, 8 January 2016 (EST)

:::This would be like the "[[Covenant Special Operations]]" article, so it's possible. But I think for now it's not really necessary—unless you've gathered enough information for it not to be a duplicate of the rank article, of course. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:01, 3 April 2016 (EDT)

It does appear that an article for the Ranger class is needed. Here are a few links that may be useful for sourcing: [https://web.archive.org/web/20130430102608/https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/intel/inteldetail/aaddb761-e579-4a1f-aa85-235523230817/grunt-ranger- Grunt Ranger], [https://web.archive.org/web/20130430105442/https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/intel/inteldetail/f82ea7fa-ad28-4246-b32f-9837fe8f9a3c/jackal-ranger- Jackal Ranger], and [https://web.archive.org/web/20130430121431/https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/intel/inteldetail/26667cee-03c2-45fb-9637-08c9028ac1b4/elite-ranger- Elite Ranger]. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 16:23, 2 May 2016 (EDT)

==Infobox==
I think we should merge "Function:" and "Other role(s):". I don't know why they should be separated, especially since the EVG lists all of them in its "Function:" part alone. (I'm talking about the infobox itself in general, not just for this article) [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:01, 3 April 2016 (EDT)
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 == Look Carefully... ==
-Is it me or can I see a face of a Ranger in Reach illuminated by a blue light? If I'm right, then its stated incorrectly. <span style="border: 3px solid Black; -moz-border-radius:10px"><span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">'''[[User:Phoenix Marathon|<font color="Black">Lt.</font>]] [[User:Phoenix Marathon#Friends|<font color="Black">Commander</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|<font color="Tan">SPARTAN</font>]]-[[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Quotes|<font color="Black">1</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Awards|<font color="Black">1</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Top Favourites|<font color="Black">0</font>]] | [ [[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|<font color=”Blue”>COM/S</font>]] ]  [ [[Special:Editcount/Phoenix Marathon|<font color=”Blue”>LOG/S</font>]] ]'''''</span></span>
+Is it me or can I see a face of a Ranger in Reach illuminated by a blue light? If I'm right, then its stated incorrectly.[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px|link=http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100506044451/halo/images/c/c7/Noblelogo.png&imgrefurl=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx%3FpostID%3D45947169&usg=__NgCyaMT0rwqrvEAvPTCb4dC6qFM=&h=1922&w=2152&sz=365&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=7PHQZBTJAGopNM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DNoble%2BTeam%2BLogo%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4ADFA_enAU369AU369%26biw%3D1345%26bih%3D498%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=330&vpy=58&dur=1951&hovh=212&hovw=238&tx=79&ty=237&ei=8uh0TJmQBIeEvAP7n8nNBg&oei=w-h0TLmGG5iMvAOTsqXuBQ&esq=4&page=1&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0]] <span style="border: 3px solid Black; -moz-border-radius:10px"><span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">'''[[User:Phoenix Marathon|<font color="Black">Lt.</font>]] [[User:Phoenix Marathon#Friends|<font color="Black">Commander</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|<font color="Tan">SPARTAN</font>]]-[[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Quotes|<font color="Black">1</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Awards|<font color="Black">1</font>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon#Top Favourites|<font color="Black">0</font>]] | [ [[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|<font color=”Blue”>COM/S</font>]] ]  [ [[Special:Editcount/Phoenix Marathon|<font color=”Blue”>LOG/S</font>]] ]'''''</span></span>
 == "BOB"? ==
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 ::You can see for yourself that there was a source. I have absolutely no idea what it is though. You might want to ask Specops306 about it. ;) -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 06:10, 8 January 2012 (EST)
-:::I think [[Joyride Studios/Halo 2 Series 4#Ranger Elite|this]] will probably explain it. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 06:17, 8 January 2012 (EST)
+:::I think [[Joyride Studios/Halo 2 Series 4#Ranger Elite|this]] will probably explain it. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 06:17, 8 January 2012 (EST)
-::::As I understood it, the Ranger's are an elite, volunteer force who would take warriors from other branches. Military service in the Covenant may be compulsory, but acceptance as a Ranger would be much tougher. Somewhat analogous to the ODSTs - high-risk, high-value strike operations where a specific set of skills are required. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:13, 8 January 2012 (EST)
+::::As I understood it, the Ranger's are an elite, volunteer force who would take warriors from other branches. Military service in the Covenant may be compulsory, but acceptance as a Ranger would be much tougher. Somewhat analogous to the ODSTs - high-risk, high-value strike operations where a specific set of skills are required. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:13, 8 January 2012 (EST)
 :::::I agree with that. I don't think any Sangheili would wake up one day and be a Ranger. Maybe they don't volunteer, but maybe they are recruited.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
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 ==Infobox==
 I think we should merge "Function:" and "Other role(s):". I don't know why they should be separated, especially since the EVG lists all of them in its "Function:" part alone. (I'm talking about the infobox itself in general, not just for this article) [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:01, 3 April 2016 (EDT)
-== Helmet Design ==
-I've just recently noticed that the Halo 2 Anniversary Ranger helmet has the exact same frame as the Halo Reach Ranger helmet. I was wondering if this has been noticed before. The main difference between H2A's and Reach's, is that there's no large visor as seen in Reach, while the H2A Ranger has some sort of plate with two smaller visors. Besides the main difference, and the color difference obviously, the frame of the helmet is the exact same. Curious to see if this could be noted somewhere on this page. [[User:TheLoneOne0303|TheLoneOne0303]] ([[User talk:TheLoneOne0303|talk]]) 02:22, October 20, 2020 (EDT)
-:Since the difference is regarding the armor itself, it should be on the [[Ranger harness]] page, and it looks like it is already covered [[Ranger harness#Assault harness based|here]]. If you think the current information can be improved upon, don't be afraid to add more information on it! <span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:JackVibe|<span style="color:#000;">Jack</span>]][[User talk:JackVibe|<span style="color:#888;">Vibe</span>]]'''</span> 06:29, October 20, 2020 (EDT)
-Ah I see now, thanks for the clarification. [[User:TheLoneOne0303|TheLoneOne0303]] ([[User talk:TheLoneOne0303|talk]]) 02:30, October 28, 2020 (EDT)