Editing Talk:SRS99-AM sniper rifle

==Ammunition==
Does the SRS 99D AM fire conventional bullets, or fin-stabilized sabbot rounds? In the VGA Trailer, Jun is seen loading conventional bullets into a SRS magazine. [[User talk:Warhead xTEAMx|Warhead xTEAMx]] 15:59, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

:you must really have great eyes, cuz i can't see how the fuck you can distinguish the bullets on the VGA trailer :s --[[User talk:Fipas|Fipas]] 15:45, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
::If you know a thing or two about weapons and ammunition, it's fairly easy to distinguish, as the sabbot rounds are very dissimilar to conventional bullets. [[User talk:Warhead xTEAMx|Warhead xTEAMx]] 16:43, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
::I checked the trailer and these are just normal FMJs
::: In the trailer, they may be normal FMJs but given that the bullet in game still leaves a white trail, the rounds are still probably APFSDS rounds, just like the other 3 SRS-series rifles we've used. [[User talk:Avalon304|Avalon304]] 17:24, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
::: so does my .416 barrett m99 with almost any type of ammo ive used it usually happens with rifle rounds any bigger than a .338

== Rifle name ==

According to the page on B.net, the rifle is the SRS99, with no "D" at the end. Is this a typo on their end or on this page? [[User talk:Naepa34|Naepa34]] 15:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
:Check the sources section.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
:Where is it stated that SRS stands for "Sniper Rifle System?" I know it would only be logical, but I still want to know how this nomenclature was found. {{Signature/COD}}
::Common sense and Halo: Ghost of Onyx.- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 01:23, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
::I know it's common sense, but I can't find it in the damn book! Help would be appreciated :) {{Signature/COD}}

== Name change request ==

The rifle is named "SRS99" on the Halo: Reach Ordnance page and the "SRS99D AM" in the Gameinformer article. In the hierarchy of canon, Bungie's word is the highest. Therefor, this article should be named "Sniper Rifle System 99". Just to add a little common sense, this weapon is the original of its series, so why would it be a 'D' variant? Plus, there is an "SRS99D S2 AM" variant (in Halo 3) and it shares very little with the H:R Sniper Rifle, so the H:R Sniper Rifle is unlikely to be the father variant of the Halo 3 rifle and more likely to be the original model of the entire series.--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 20:33, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

:Are you implying that GameInformer is introducing fanon (according to your request, it seems to imply that GameInformer added "D" to the weapon and ignoring Bungie canon, hence an unofficial information and as such considered as fanon) in their articles to their customers and that they're modifying Bungie-released content, without ever informing their customers that the articles are fake? That GameInformer spread lies? :O

::No, I'm implying that a typo was made by either the GI editor or the Bungie member that gave the information OR that the name has since been changed...--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 21:00, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

:Indeed Bungie Canon hold superior authority, but also remember that the Third Party media mostly refine all known information (such example is expanding Bungie-controlled content unless it contradicts Bungie canon). So, in this situation, GameInformer is simply expanding Bungie Canon. Most, if not all, of the content released by GameInformer is very accurate as it came directly from Bungie. If GameInformer has shown some history of unreliability (which they have not), no doubt we would ignore their articles and stick only to Bungie.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 20:45, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

::If it is named the "SRS99", then it would be the precursor of all Sniper Rifles we've seen in the Halo games since it lacks a letter. Since there are 2 sources of contradicting information that are supposedly equal in authority, the source located on Bungie's website itself wins out. Also, keep in mind that it is more recent information than the GI article.--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 20:54, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

:::''*Curses slow connection, slow refresh loadouts and edit-conflicts!*''
:::Well, I'm all out of exploiting loopholes. :P - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
::::Soooo....name-change time?--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 21:33, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Super awesome, but one more thing. Not to be picky, but I'm not sure what to add to the name. The ordnance page only names it "SRS99" and no mention of "Anti-Material". Should that be included?--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 21:55, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


== Bolt & Reload==
Seriously, who keeps removing my post about how the Sniper now cocks when you pick it up? It was seen in a recent IGN video showing off multiplayer maps at 1:19

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/halor_maps_vdp_080310.html

And it has a new reload animation, which, almost for sure, means there will be an empty reload too, as ''every other ''human weapon in Reach has one. Also, I'm going to point out that the reload animation was cut off and didn't fully reload. It's seen in the mulitplayer interview video at 3:56

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/halor_multi_inv_080310.html [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:15, August 5, 2010 (UTC)





==Ammunition Amount==

I recently added a trivia thing about the ammo, from a recent screenshot. I did the reference wrong, I put the link than a | symbol, then the name of the source, but it combined them. If anyone can fix that or check the ammo thing, please fix it. I don't have a wiki account, however.

Here's the link to the screenshot: [[http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/80610/SCREENSHOTS/1920/Reach_Nightfall_Scout.jpg]]

Done. Sorry about removing it earlier. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:purple">'''Que'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:red">'''Sera'''</span>]], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:orange">'''Sera'''</span>]] 00:18, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

== Anti-vehicle ==

Seriusly why? It's obviously stronger than it was before. Why did you reverted it?--[[User talk:Ketsumaye|Ketsumaye]] 19:20, 24 October 2010 (EDT)

== APFSDS versus HVAP ==

{{Quote|Here. You may need these. High velocity, armor-piercing. They'll take the hat off an Elite at two thousand yards. And they ain't cheap.|[[Jun-A266]]}}
This quote from Jun suggests that this model of sniper rifle does not fire the Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot rounds fired by the rest of the SRS series, but High Velocity Armour Piercing (or Armour-Piercing, Composite Rigid if you're British) rounds instead. This interpretation is supported by the fact that in the levels ''[[Noble Actual]]'' and ''[[Nightfall]]'', and in the [[Halo: Reach Video Games Awards Trailer]], Jun is seen with conventional, full-bore rounds in his magazines instead of sabot rounds: HVAP rounds are full-bore rounds consisting of a core of a high-density hard material surrounded by a full-bore shell of a lighter material (e.g. an aluminium alloy), as opposed to APFSDS rounds, which are sub-calibre dart-like projectiles with breakaway sabots. Furthermore, HVAP rounds lose velocity and accuracy at long ranges, explaining Jun's "they'll take the hat off an Elite at two thousand yards", which is roughly 1800 metres, considerably less than the 2300 metre ranges of the APFSDS-firing SRS 99C-S2 and SRS 99D-S2 rifles. Therefore, I suggest we change the article to reflect this, and also the [[14.5x114mm]] article to show that there are different types of that size of round.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 16:31, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

== Length ==

65 inches? Recently, it bugged the heck out of me just how long the sniper rifle was, so I took some measurements. Two put together take up roughly two thirds of a Warthog. One on its own is larger than Noble Six. No way that thing that is five foot five inches long.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 19:10, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

:A Spartan is 7 ft tall. How could one on its own is larger than Six? Besides, look at the length of other sniper rifles in the Halo series. The [[Sniper Rifle System 99C-S2 Anti-Matériel|Halo: CE sniper rifle]] is 187cm, which is longer than this one. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|When I played Halo: CE]], [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|we didn't have any fancy-shmancy armor abilities...]])</sub> 22:50, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
::Just go into Forge and see for yourself. Only thing I could think to explain it is that they didn't include the barrel.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 03:09, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Bungie is known not to be very consistent (or knowledgeable) as far as firearms go. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 08:30, 5 September 2011 (EDT)
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 According to the page on B.net, the rifle is the SRS99, with no "D" at the end. Is this a typo on their end or on this page? [[User talk:Naepa34|Naepa34]] 15:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 :Check the sources section.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 16:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
-:Where is it stated that SRS stands for "Sniper Rifle System?" I know it would only be logical, but I still want to know how this nomenclature was found. COD
+:Where is it stated that SRS stands for "Sniper Rifle System?" I know it would only be logical, but I still want to know how this nomenclature was found. {{Signature/COD}}
 ::Common sense and Halo: Ghost of Onyx.- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 01:23, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
-::I know it's common sense, but I can't find it in the damn book! Help would be appreciated :) COD
+::I know it's common sense, but I can't find it in the damn book! Help would be appreciated :) {{Signature/COD}}
 == Name change request ==
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 == APFSDS versus HVAP ==
 {{Quote|Here. You may need these. High velocity, armor-piercing. They'll take the hat off an Elite at two thousand yards. And they ain't cheap.|[[Jun-A266]]}}
 This quote from Jun suggests that this model of sniper rifle does not fire the Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot rounds fired by the rest of the SRS series, but High Velocity Armour Piercing (or Armour-Piercing, Composite Rigid if you're British) rounds instead. This interpretation is supported by the fact that in the levels ''[[Noble Actual]]'' and ''[[Nightfall]]'', and in the [[Halo: Reach Video Games Awards Trailer]], Jun is seen with conventional, full-bore rounds in his magazines instead of sabot rounds: HVAP rounds are full-bore rounds consisting of a core of a high-density hard material surrounded by a full-bore shell of a lighter material (e.g. an aluminium alloy), as opposed to APFSDS rounds, which are sub-calibre dart-like projectiles with breakaway sabots. Furthermore, HVAP rounds lose velocity and accuracy at long ranges, explaining Jun's "they'll take the hat off an Elite at two thousand yards", which is roughly 1800 metres, considerably less than the 2300 metre ranges of the APFSDS-firing SRS 99C-S2 and SRS 99D-S2 rifles. Therefore, I suggest we change the article to reflect this, and also the [[14.5x114mm]] article to show that there are different types of that size of round.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 16:31, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
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 ::Just go into Forge and see for yourself. Only thing I could think to explain it is that they didn't include the barrel.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 03:09, 2 September 2011 (EDT)
 :::Bungie is known not to be very consistent (or knowledgeable) as far as firearms go. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 08:30, 5 September 2011 (EDT)
-Robt McLees certainly doesn't know much - read: <u>anything</u> - about guns or their operation. [[Sniper Rifle System 99C-S2 Anti-Matériel#Trivia|This particular gem]] made me laugh out loud the first time I read it. ''Of course'' snipers never adjust their optics; they're always ''magically'' set for the next shot. ''"...Amazing."''
-Anyway, I'd say that the SRS99's length is justified since it's an anti-matériel rifle rather than a traditional sniper rifle. For me, [[:File:T. Rymann.jpg|this image]] really drives that point home. So, why does the UNSCDF field a five-and-a-half foot long weapon with a four-round magazine as its standard-issue sniper rifle? [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool The rule of cool]. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 13:43, 5 September 2011 (EDT)
-== Mistakes regarding the effectiveness of the Sniper Rifle System 99 Anti - Matériel against vehicles ==
-In the article, under the headline 'disadvantages', it clearly states that the this rifle is not very effective against vehicles,
-and elsewhere in the article it clearly states that you can take out a wraith with a single magazine,
-could someone please find out the truth and correct this mistake?
-thanks,
-S-777
-:I will fix that. It is ''extremely'' effective against vehicles.[[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 19:46, 17 October 2011 (EDT)