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Most likely, but i'm starting to think that its is not based on amount of achievement points but amount of achievements. How many do you have? --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 06:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Most likely, but i'm starting to think that its is not based on amount of achievement points but amount of achievements. How many do you have? --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 06:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


Maybe it's just for A) unlocking a certain amount of achivements, B) Completely Random or random achievements/points, C) Glitched/bugged [[User:E93|<font color="Green">Eduardo Jimenez</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:E93|<font color="Blue">Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/E93|<font color=Gray>Contributions</font>]]</sub>File:Marine_Corp_CPL.JPG|20px]]UoH/C Company|<font color="#000000">C Company</font>]]
Maybe it's just for A) unlocking a certain amount of achivements, B) Completely Random or random achievements/points, C) Glitched/bugged [[User:E93|<font color="Green">Eduardo Jimenez</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:E93|<font color="Blue">Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/E93|<font color=Gray>Contributions</font>]]</sub>[[Image:Marine_Corp_CPL.JPG|20px]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/C Company|<font color="#000000">C Company</font>]]


I had 750 Achievement points, and did not have the Security shoulders.  Upon completing the legendary campaign and jumping to 875, I unlocked the Security shoulders.  At that point I had 35 achievements. - drpeppr07
I had 750 Achievement points, and did not have the Security shoulders.  Upon completing the legendary campaign and jumping to 875, I unlocked the Security shoulders.  At that point I had 35 achievements. - drpeppr07


i only had 950 gs for halo 3 and i got the securityhelm. any explinations?


==Overhaul==
==Overhaul==
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*E) It was random around a certain range of achievements/gamerpoints and I was lucky.
*E) It was random around a certain range of achievements/gamerpoints and I was lucky.
Another possibility is that you unlock it with one of those achievements, though this conflicts with other peoples' reports. Also of note: I hadn't unlocked all of the other meta-game achievements, only 4 others besides this one. All of the ones I have now: [[Guerilla]], Demon, [[Cavalier]], [[Ranger]], and [[Vanguard]].
Another possibility is that you unlock it with one of those achievements, though this conflicts with other peoples' reports. Also of note: I hadn't unlocked all of the other meta-game achievements, only 4 others besides this one. All of the ones I have now: [[Guerilla]], Demon, [[Cavalier]], [[Ranger]], and [[Vanguard]].
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I am currently hating the odd un-lock criteria. I have finished campain on legendary, gotten the achivements that can be done in either Campaign or multiplayer, found all 13 skulls, and achieved [[Demon]], [[Askar]], [[Exterminator]], and [[Orpheus]]. At least 870 gamescore, so this is really getting to be a pain. Ill do the other five metagames and hope it unlocks. [[User:166.109.124.218|166.109.124.218]] 14:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I am currently hating the odd un-lock criteria. I have finished campain on legendary, gotten the achivements that can be done in either Campaign or multiplayer, found all 13 skulls, and achieved [[Demon]], [[Askar]], [[Exterminator]], and [[Orpheus]]. At least 870 gamescore, so this is really getting to be a pain. Ill do the other five metagames and hope it unlocks. [[User:166.109.124.218|166.109.124.218]] 14:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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[[User:Ebola Zaire|Ebola Zaire]] 05:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[[User:Ebola Zaire|Ebola Zaire]] 05:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


I have 680 gamerscore for Halo 3 and got Security shoulders when I played about two days later the have relocked so this Armor  is probably glitchy


== I got the shoulders at.... ==
== I got the shoulders at.... ==
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Can someone please explain to me why that would be? If anything, that katana would go with the Hayabusa armor. Just because they're earned at the same time doesn't mean anything. <span style="color:green">'''Smoke''' <sup>[[User:Smoke.|My page]]</sup><sub>[[User_Talk:Smoke.|My talk]]</sub></span> 06:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Can someone please explain to me why that would be? If anything, that katana would go with the Hayabusa armor. Just because they're earned at the same time doesn't mean anything. <span style="color:green">'''Smoke''' <sup>[[User:Smoke.|My page]]</sup><sub>[[User_Talk:Smoke.|My talk]]</sub></span> 06:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


It is only added to the triva as a exturnal fact. [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - CoH|<span title="SpecOps" style="color:DarkSlateGray">CoH</span>]] - - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 06:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
It is only added to the triva as a exturnal fact. [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - [[Halopedia:Covenant of Halopedia|<span title="SpecOps" style="color:DarkSlateGray">CoH</span>]] - [[Halopedia:Ancients of Halopedia|<span title="Carrier Form" style="color: DarkSlateGray">AoH</span>]] - [[Halopedia:Standards Council of Halopedia|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 06:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


it's possable that bungie groups the two together since their both refererances to other games, security is marathon, halo's predicessor, and katana is a part of the ninja armour, which is the main charictors armour from ninja gedon [[User:rebelpyro|<span style="color:black">rebel</span> <span style="color:red">pyro</span>]][[User Talk:rebelpyro|<small><sup><span style="color:purple">TALK</span></sup></small>]]
it's possable that bungie groups the two together since their both refererances to other games, security is marathon, halo's predicessor, and katana is a part of the ninja armour, which is the main charictors armour from ninja gedon [[User:rebelpyro|<span style="color:black">rebel</span> <span style="color:red">pyro</span>]][[User Talk:rebelpyro|<small><sup><span style="color:purple">TALK</span></sup></small>]]
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Thankyou for your time
Thankyou for your time


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== Question ==
== Question ==
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If you have the dowloadable packs, does gettign a combo of 1000 points throughout the versions still unlock the helmet? Or do I need 1000 points of the  orginial Achievements? --[[User talk:Brengarrett|Brengarrett]] 17:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
If you have the dowloadable packs, does gettign a combo of 1000 points throughout the versions still unlock the helmet? Or do I need 1000 points of the  orginial Achievements? --[[User talk:Brengarrett|Brengarrett]] 17:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


from my expirice is that it is a combo because i got the helmet using both gamerscores.[[User talk:Mwertz95|Mwertz95]] 18:07, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
== Helmet re-locked for no reason ==
== Helmet re-locked for no reason ==


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That is not true as I have roughly something like 1200 gamerscore between halo 3 and odst. Both campaign and multiplayer achievements. If anyone cares, I have 35 (halo 3) and 34 (odst) But I dont know if that matters. Please help me out here ;)
That is not true as I have roughly something like 1200 gamerscore between halo 3 and odst. Both campaign and multiplayer achievements. If anyone cares, I have 35 (halo 3) and 34 (odst) But I dont know if that matters. Please help me out here ;)
Same here. [[User:PX173|'''''PX''''']][[User_talk:PX173|''1'']]''7''[[Special:Contributions/PX173|''3'']] 08:15, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


== security shoulder glich ==
== security shoulder glich ==
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== Mark V? ==
== Mark V? ==


For some reason, I have a tiny voice in my head that's telling me that this is a Mark VI variant. Unless there's proof? --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;General5 7&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:38, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
For some reason, I have a tiny voice in my head that's telling me that this is a Mark VI variant. Unless there's proof? --[[File:Colonel Grade One.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;General5 7&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:38, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
:Technically speaking, it's Mark IV, seeing as it was first manufactured in 2528, but it was been updated to match the current Mark VI. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:42, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
:Technically speaking, it's Mark IV, seeing as it was first manufactured in 2528, but it was been updated to match the current Mark VI. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:42, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
{{Quote|The MJOLNIR V(m) variant was manufactured in the Misriah Armory Facility on Mars in 2543, a year after the Mark V entered production in 2542. Like the Mark V, it has been upgraded to be compatible with all current generation MJOLNIR variants.|Article description}}
{{Quote|The MJOLNIR V(m) variant was manufactured in the Misriah Armory Facility on Mars in 2543, a year after the Mark V entered production in 2542. Like the Mark V, it has been upgraded to be compatible with all current generation MJOLNIR variants.|Article description}}
:Maybe open Halo 3 and check out the description of the armour?- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:47, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe open Halo 3 and check out the description of the armour?- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:47, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, well you think you know something. I'll take your word, because I can't check Halo 3, seeing as my 360 is broken. But what I want to know, is since when was the Mark V distributed in 2542? The date in FoR was an error. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:55, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, well you think you know something. I'll take your word, because I can't check Halo 3, seeing as my 360 is broken. But what I want to know, is since when was the Mark V distributed in 2542? The date in FoR was an error. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:55, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
:::It's Mark V. It says so. Sorry. --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 23:58, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
::::Says so...where?--<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;General5 7&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 00:09, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::::Halo 3's description of the armor. You may check it if you don't believe me.--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 00:11, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
::::::I noticed General5_7 renamed the article from Mark <code>V(m)</code> MJOLNIR Powered_Assault_Armor (Without Spacing) to Mark V (m) MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor (With Spacing). What's the title in the Halo 3, with spacing or without?--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 00:18, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Without. I'll fix that mistake.--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 00:20, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Hold on there, don't do anything yet. The Halo Encyclopedia spells it with a space. So where does that leave us? -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 00:27, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::The Halo games are superior canon. I don't think debate is needed. --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 00:30, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Aye, as per our great canon policy.--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 00:37, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::Well I think there most certainly is. The Encyclopedia is a collaboration of all the info from the games, novels, ect. One is not "superior" to the other. I'm in favor of adding a space, seeing as it makes more sense grammatically. -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 00:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Again, the Encyclopaedia has multiple issues and is not above or on par with the Games. It still falls under '''Halo Literature, Soundtracks, and Other Media'''.--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 01:20, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::::Let's ask an admin on this. As per CT's rule, "admins are always right". --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;General5 7&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 01:44, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::::::Do note that administrators cannot ignore the policies!--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 01:56, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::::::It was a joke; not serious. But we should still ask what they think of it. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;General5 7&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 01:58, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::::::Given how many errors the Encyclopedia has, I would say the space is not there.  Besides, I already stated that the games are superior canon. I'm going with spaceless.--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 05:55, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Why would there be no space in the first place? It serves no purpose, maybe the game has a typo? -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 10:26, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::I've seen project names like that before. I believe it is needed. --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 15:23, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 
== Definitely... ==
 
I can see why the shoulders are said to be glitched.
I have 755Gs from halo, but the shoulders still aren't unlocked :/ [[User talk:ToaOrka|ToaOrka]]
 
So erm...Does Bungie plan on DOING anything about it? [[User talk:ToaOrka|ToaOrka]]
 
I HAD the shoulders, but when I finished campaign on Normal, they were gone! Any tips how to get them back?
 
I think doing all the campaign achievements guarantees the shoulders.--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 04:47, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
== new name ==
 
As the shoulders pretty much confirm that Security armour was originally created for Mark IV MJOLNIR, we need a new name.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 20:09, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
:MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/M variant? Also, the production date of 2542 is also a pretty strong indication that the variant was originally created for the Mark IV. Was it ever actually stated in H3 that it was the Mark V that entered production in 2542 or just the Security armor? As a side note, it may be a "shared asset" like the [[Mark V(MP) MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor|Mark V(MP)]], considering how it sounds extremely improbable they'd have Spartans specializing solely as security guards. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 20:22, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
::The Enyclopaedia screwed up. Examine the armour in Halo 3 and it shows that Security was manufactured originally in 2528. 24 years before the release of standard Mark V. Based on this, Mark V[m] is merely an updated version of the Mark IV[m], which was released in 2528 by an unnamed private enterprise.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 20:31, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::So... the idea that Mark V begun production in 2542 is from the Encyclopedia? No wonder it sounded so inconsistent. Although I thought we had it here on Halopedia before the book came out. Anyways, if the Halo 3 description says 2528, it's pretty obvious was originally for the Mark IV, and as the page says, compatible with later models much like most MJOLNIR variants. So, should we rename it "MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/M variant" like all other variants that are for more than one armor model? --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 20:41, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::No. I thought you meant that this armour was developed in 2542. Mark V in general began in 2542, yes. Security armour appears to have had Mark IV and V versions, like how EVA was used in multiple editions of MJOLNIR.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 21:18, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::I'm with you on the Security armor rename proposal. Because it was developed in 2528 as the H3 description says, it must've been originally created as a variant of the Mark IV and only later for the Mark V.
 
:::::It's a bit off topic, but I was just wondering where does the source for the production year of 2542 for the Mark V proper come from? Was it in one of Halo 3's armor descriptions? It's just that it's hard to believe they'd produce the armor ten years before handing it out to the Spartans. It could be a simple typo; they could've meant 2552. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 05:48, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::I'm sure it's in ''Halo: The Fall of Reach''. Ten years is actually realistic given the circumstances. Halsey needed to research shield technology and create one with adequate protection that wouldn't fail randomly. Also, ONI diverted funding in 2536 to the SPARTAN-IIIs and SPI ''because'' of her expensive Mark IV armour. Based on that, she'd spend a few extra years making mark V because of the smaller funding. She probably would have finished at the end of the '40s, based on privatised variants coming out before hers. As these privatised companies have a lot of money, and do not rely on grants from the UNSC, they were seen by ONI as better candidates to manufacture the armour. As they came out in similar workings to Halsey's model, I assume that they based it on her schematics. As I said earlier, she would have finished sooner. A private variant released before Halsey's, I can understand... but not one released before Halsey even finishes...or even starts drawing up the schematics. Yes, Security is Mark IV and Mark V.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 16:28, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Spoiler? ==
 
I'm aware that someone has removed my edit to the page about the armor set's presence in the Halo Reach Armory, under the reason that it was, appearantly, a spoiler.
 
Here's the definition of a spoiler, directly from wiktionary:
 
"A [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/document document], [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/review review] or [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/comment comment] that discloses the ending or some key [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/surprise surprise], or [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/twist twist] in a story."
 
here's a link: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spoiler
 
I don't believe a armor's presence in the armory is a spoiler, adhering to that definition, and I would like to request my edit to be reposted upon the grounds of this statement.
 
 
 
*Note: I've noticed many actual spoilers rgarding the actual'' story'' of the game staying up, as opposed to armory reveals being removed. We've known that EOD and Security were back in since may 3rd. But that doesn't tell any story. That reveals nothing about noble team's activities during halo reach, it reveals nothing about which characters die and which are spared, and it reveals no major plot points whatsoever. It only reveals a customization option for the player, and we've been learning and updating our info about those since may 3rd, and even before.
He didn't do it because he thought that it would spoil anything. It's because we shouldn't post something that is revealed in an unofficial manner from an unsanctioned party. It can encourage others to post real spoilers and because it's not from Bungie, it's not confirmed and technically non-canon. It's not too big of a deal. It will be re-posted on release day. [[User:Tgor365|<span style="color:red">'''Tgor'''</span>]][[User talk:Tgor365|<span style="color:blue">'''365'''</span>]] 08:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
It's true, alot of information and images have been removed from pages for that very reason. If you get permission from an admin then you can add it to the page but I only removed the information in accordance with the wiki's policies--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 08:46, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
That definition isn't necessarily correct in gamer circles. Like the name suggests, a spoiler is simply something that gives away an unknown aspect of something before it is able to be known. <font color="#7F007F">[[User:Blade_bane/Stats|'''B''']][[Special:Contributions/Blade_bane|'''L''']][[User:Blade_bane/Guestbook|'''A''']][[User:Blade_bane/Signature|<font color="#000000">'''D'''</font>]][[User:Blade_bane/Quotes|<font color="#B0E0E6">'''E'''</font>]][[User:Blade bane|'''BANE''']]</font> [[User:Blade_bane|<font color="#FFA500">Anti-Vandal</font>]] 09:00, August 29, 2010 (UTC)Blade bane
 
Theres a view of it AND its shoulders in some of the full armory videos. get a pic and post it. its real. [[User talk:Failamanjaro|Failamanjaro]] 15:42, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Antenna for Halo: Reach version? ==
 
I've noticed that while the Security Helmet in Halo 3 adds a small antenna to your Spartan's armor when equipped, there is no mention of this for the Halo: Reach variant. Can someone please confirm whether the Security Helmet/Shoulders in Halo: Reach adds an antenna to your armor when equipped? Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/67.166.207.210|67.166.207.210]] 00:10, 19 February 2011 (EST)
 
==Infobox image==
Concerning the image, I can easily take renders from custom games on a forged map I made, which has invisible structures and a white wall, thanks to the machinima-related custom options. (and then it requires very minor adjustments on my computer) See [[AIR ASSAULT-class Mjolnir]] for example. So I can take care of this kind of render, but first I need to unlock the armor. For Security, I still miss the chest. Anyway, I can take care of this kind of things, it's just a matter of time. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 11:43, 21 January 2016 (EST)
 
:Well I personally only put one down like that as it suited the updates I was doing(you all might of noticed). Though I consider it something that could be better, but right now does the job till someone better(you) does it. :) - - [[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 17:37, 21 January 2016 (GMT)

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