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| | I have the book. This guy is Half-Jaw |
| == Special Operations Commander ==
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| Is there a source that asserts he was in charge of ''all'' Covenant special forces? I came to doubt this because the ''Essential Visual Guide'' states he was merely Special Operations commander of the Fleet of Particular Justice. It's possible he was promoted after the events of Installation 04, but if so, it's not mentioned in the visual guide.
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| That, and "[[Special Operations Commander of the Covenant]]" seems like it could be a fanon title - I recall he's only been called "Special Operations Commander". --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 13:55, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
| | The Graphic Novel states that Half-Jaw/Spec Ops Commander are both Rtas 'Vadumee. The title should be changed. |
| :Seems like we're starting to reconsider the way we view the Covenant's armed forces. Perhaps you should start a forum on this?--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith'ari|The All-knowing Sith'ari]] 13:57, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
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| ::During the ''Halo 3: Essentials'' commentary for the opening cutscene of ''Sacred Icon'', Jason Jones says something to the effect of, ''"There he is... Half-Jaw, the special operations commander of the Covenant."'' Jason Jones has never had much involvement with the ''Halo'' series' story, especially not since ''Halo 2'''s release. He has always been far more concerned with gameplay than with canon, and he has a bad habit of saying things simply because they sound cool. At no point has it been stated or even suggested that "Special Operations Commander of the Covenant" is a canon title. On a related note, when/where has Tartarus ''ever'' been called the "Chieftain of the Jiralhanae"?. {{Unsigned|Braidenvl}}
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| :::Tartarus' rank is seemingly derived from the final cinematic of ''Sacred Icon'', where he proclaims himself to be "Chieftain of the Brutes" (''"And I, Tartarus, Chieftain of the Brutes will send you to it"'') It does seem odd that such a tribal and disorganized species would have a proper leader, but perhaps it's a position born out of necessity to have someone represent them in the Covenant. | | It's been established in Halo: The Flood that Elites shorten their names to the second part. If you're going to shorten his name, it will be "'Vadumee", not "Rtas". -[[User:ED|ED]] 15:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC) |
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| :::Coming back to the original subject, we could take Jones' comment at face value or not. It just seems a little strange if he was indeed in command of ''all'' Covenant special operations forces and the visual guide makes no mention of it. Still, he was apparently in an important position during the events of ''Halo 2'', given his involvement in high-level politics. Either way, it's apparent that "Special Operations Commander of the Covenant" is merely a descriptor used by Jones and Rtas' actual rank is "Special Operations Commander".
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| | When is his name revealed? One of the books? Also, how is it pronounced? [[User:Salty|Salty]] 05:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| :::As for a forum post on Covenant military restructuring, I'll get working on that. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:43, 30 August 2011 (EDT) | | :His name is apparently revealed in Halo Graphic Novel, since there's a story with him in it. I'd pronounce it with a gentle 'r' (lower case) sound at the beginning and then the rest as it's spelt. I know it could be a problem if you're not used to pronouncing funny words. [[User:J.f|J.f]] 4 September 10:31 |
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| :::On a side note, according to the Tartarus page on the Essential Visual Guide, he is "Chieftain of the Jiralhanae". Looking forward to the end of this discussion in the forums. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|When I played Halo: CE]], [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|we didn't have any fancy-shmancy armor abilities...]])</sub> 12:00, 31 August 2011 (EDT) | | ::I don't see how to pronounce the R without a vowel on either side, and say "er-tas" even though I know it's probably inaccurate. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 10:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| == Put his alternate name "Half-Jaw" in the first sentence or the info box ==
| | :::Hah hah, I have always pronounced it with emphasis on the R. To me it sounds like AR-tas. -[[User:ED|ED]] 01:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| His nick name "Half-Jaw" is now canon as shown in Halo: Shadow of Intent's description “ After decades of grim combat against the humans and then the traitorous Covenant Prophets, the Sangheili warrior Rtas ‘Vadum—the Half-Jaw—has earned a long rest. But not all of the Prophets perished in their holy city, High Charity, and now one of their fearsome Prelates has sworn his vengeance. This powerful threat has set a cataclysmic plan in motion—a plan to lure the Half-Jaw into a trap that will herald the utter destruction of the entire Sangheili race…[4] ” {{Unsigned|Editorguy}}
| | ::::To be honest sometimes i pronounce it artas because it's easier -J.f |
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| :Half-Jaw is just used because anyone who just plays the games won't know him by any other name. The nickname "Half-Jaw" has been canon since ''Halo 2'' and we mention it in the "Physical appearance" section, so it should be covered well enough. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 21:50, 4 October 2015 (EDT) | | == Too many quotes!!! == |
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| | So many quotes make it look to tacky--[[User:207.28.99.145|207.28.99.145]] 18:18, 22 September 2006 (UTC) |
| | :I contributed some of his quotes, but only the "quotish" sounding ones. I was ''not'' the person who included the quotes of every single thing he ever said in the "Heretic" and "Oracle" missions and I think somebody should get rid of some of them. -[[User:J.f]] |
| | ::Okay, I removed some of the quotes just now but it still might need trimming a bit --.[[User:J.f|J.f]] 19:29 25 September 2006 |
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| | ==Removed Quotes== |
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| | *"Even now they use our lords' creations to broadcast their lies!" |
| | *"Bring the Phantoms closer to mine. We're not leaving until the leader of these heretics is dead. Arbiter, the Flood have spread throughout the station! We don't have enough troops to manage such a large infestation." |
| | *"The storm has masked our approach, and it should have their local battlenet in disarray." |
| | *"Are you still alive, Arbiter? We're keeping pace as best we can!" |
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| | == Served on the fleet of Particular Justice? == |
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| | Source? --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 06:33, 30 September 2006 (UTC) |
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| | ==Picture== |
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| | Um, that picture at the bottom is definitely not on Installation 05. [[User:Irkallabyss|Irkallabyss]] |
| | :It looks like it's the Quarantine Zone. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 23:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC) |