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Under the Defense paragraph it states the following: "Total Naval Assets: 1,209 (T); 75 (X)". I have two questions that have to do with this fact. 1) Is it talking about the Navy that operates in the sea or the Navy that operates in space? Im assuming it's the latter, but Im unsure. 2) What does the "(T)" and "(X)" mean/stand for? -- [http://halopedian.com/User:Rorschach_416 Rorschach 416] July 27, 2010 | Under the Defense paragraph it states the following: "Total Naval Assets: 1,209 (T); 75 (X)". I have two questions that have to do with this fact. 1) Is it talking about the Navy that operates in the sea or the Navy that operates in space? Im assuming it's the latter, but Im unsure. 2) What does the "(T)" and "(X)" mean/stand for? -- [http://halopedian.com/User:Rorschach_416 Rorschach 416] July 27, 2010 | ||
:I'd say T stands for "Terrestrial", while X stands for "Exoatmospheric", corresponding to "wet" Navy and "space" Navy forces. Given the figures given in the rereleased Halo: The Fall of Reach, placing the Covenant fleet at more than 700 ships, this is a pitiful amount. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:02, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | :I'd say T stands for "Terrestrial", while X stands for "Exoatmospheric", corresponding to "wet" Navy and "space" Navy forces. Given the figures given in the rereleased Halo: The Fall of Reach, placing the Covenant fleet at more than 700 ships, this is a pitiful amount. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:02, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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The article says that Reach required some degree of terraforming to be hospitable for human life. It seems unlikely as there are still native species on Reach (Moa, Gueta). It seems that Reach would have already had a hospitable enough environment for the various plantlife and animal life, so the terraforming could have possibly been purely atmospheric. But, doing this would undoubtably kill off many of the native species. However, the terraforming could have been to just add more oxygen for human life assuming Reach already had a sufficient amount for native life, and this would assume that the species afterwards would be the most adaptable and toughest. I guess it comes down to how many native species we see in the game.--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 15:35, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | The article says that Reach required some degree of terraforming to be hospitable for human life. It seems unlikely as there are still native species on Reach (Moa, Gueta). It seems that Reach would have already had a hospitable enough environment for the various plantlife and animal life, so the terraforming could have possibly been purely atmospheric. But, doing this would undoubtably kill off many of the native species. However, the terraforming could have been to just add more oxygen for human life assuming Reach already had a sufficient amount for native life, and this would assume that the species afterwards would be the most adaptable and toughest. I guess it comes down to how many native species we see in the game.--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 15:35, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Terraforming doesn't just affect atmosphere. It also affects other factors - geography, for example. From what we've seen of Reach, it's pretty rugged and mountainous, and levelling a significant chunk of land for the construction of cities, roads, farms, etc, would be a major undertaking. It also affects the magnetosphere - Mars, for example, has a very thin one, letting a lot of radiation in. If Reach was similar, the UNSC would need to enhance it to provide a habitat where humans don't get sunburn in thirty seconds. Or water supplies? Harbours, canals, resorvoirs, would all have to be set up for human infrastructure. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 10:09, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | :Terraforming doesn't just affect atmosphere. It also affects other factors - geography, for example. From what we've seen of Reach, it's pretty rugged and mountainous, and levelling a significant chunk of land for the construction of cities, roads, farms, etc, would be a major undertaking. It also affects the magnetosphere - Mars, for example, has a very thin one, letting a lot of radiation in. If Reach was similar, the UNSC would need to enhance it to provide a habitat where humans don't get sunburn in thirty seconds. Or water supplies? Harbours, canals, resorvoirs, would all have to be set up for human infrastructure. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 10:09, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:It is also possible that certian intrest groups or individuals worked to try and help some of Reach's native wildlife adapt to the new human based climatic conditions and biosphere. '''[[User talk:Dragrath1|Dragrath1]] 23:00, September 17, 2010 (UTC)''' | :It is also possible that certian intrest groups or individuals worked to try and help some of Reach's native wildlife adapt to the new human based climatic conditions and biosphere. '''[[User talk:Dragrath1|Dragrath1]] 23:00, September 17, 2010 (UTC)''' | ||
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::Yes, but the speed at which Reach's life evolved is astonishingly crazy. On Earth, there was a 3 billion year span from the very first life to the kind of life on Reach. I don't care what its origins are, no kind of life can get that complex in 1 billion years. If the life on Reach is native, then the Precursors must have been involved. Or, when the Forerunners inhabited the planet, they brought along some select species of value to them; similar to how they seed their artificial worlds.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 19:31, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ::Yes, but the speed at which Reach's life evolved is astonishingly crazy. On Earth, there was a 3 billion year span from the very first life to the kind of life on Reach. I don't care what its origins are, no kind of life can get that complex in 1 billion years. If the life on Reach is native, then the Precursors must have been involved. Or, when the Forerunners inhabited the planet, they brought along some select species of value to them; similar to how they seed their artificial worlds.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 19:31, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::Does anybody really think that the flora and fauna of Reach are truly native? That fish, birds, mammals and reptiles would evolve under even subtly different conditions to look nearly identical to those that developed on Earth? I don't believe it for one moment. Exactly ''how'' that life got there, I don't know - I'm sure the Forerunners or the Precursors had a hand in it, though exactly why remains to be seen. And until it is, we really can't say how it got there, or why. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:58, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | :::Does anybody really think that the flora and fauna of Reach are truly native? That fish, birds, mammals and reptiles would evolve under even subtly different conditions to look nearly identical to those that developed on Earth? I don't believe it for one moment. Exactly ''how'' that life got there, I don't know - I'm sure the Forerunners or the Precursors had a hand in it, though exactly why remains to be seen. And until it is, we really can't say how it got there, or why. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:58, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::If you have an Earth-like planet, similar species are bound to evolve. For example, on Reach, I wouldn't expect to see a 7-legged mammal with eyes on its elbows. Evolution is all about how organisms adapt to their surroundings. Since Reach has very similar conditions to Earth, you would expect to see similar creatures. However, the only confirmed "native" species are the Moa and Gúta. All the others like the rats and koi are likely brought over from Earth. Pests like rats always find a way to piggyback off of human travel, and koi are more of a decoration than true wildlife, hence their existance in the uppity high-class tower on Refleciton.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:58, 18 March 2011 (EDT) | ::::If you have an Earth-like planet, similar species are bound to evolve. For example, on Reach, I wouldn't expect to see a 7-legged mammal with eyes on its elbows. Evolution is all about how organisms adapt to their surroundings. Since Reach has very similar conditions to Earth, you would expect to see similar creatures. However, the only confirmed "native" species are the Moa and Gúta. All the others like the rats and koi are likely brought over from Earth. Pests like rats always find a way to piggyback off of human travel, and koi are more of a decoration than true wildlife, hence their existance in the uppity high-class tower on Refleciton.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:58, 18 March 2011 (EDT) |