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== Planet's age is unfitting for its life == | == Planet's age is unfitting for its life == | ||
Reach's age is 1 billion years old and has a wide range of complex life, yet the most basic organic structures didn't even appear on Earth until 1.5 billion years of age. At only 1 billion years old, why does Reach have similar life to that of Earth at roughly 4.25 billion years old? Precursor involvement? Forerunner seeding?-- | Reach's age is 1 billion years old and has a wide range of complex life, yet the most basic organic structures didn't even appear on Earth until 1.5 billion years of age. At only 1 billion years old, why does Reach have similar life to that of Earth at roughly 4.25 billion years old? Precursor involvement? Forerunner seeding?--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 17:55, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
:No one can predict nature; one can only make theories as accurate as they can. As such, never generalise what Earth has achieved to other planets. :) — <span style="font-size:120%; font-family:Palatino Linotype; font-style:italic;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 18:07, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | :No one can predict nature; one can only make theories as accurate as they can. As such, never generalise what Earth has achieved to other planets. :) — <span style="font-size:120%; font-family:Palatino Linotype; font-style:italic;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 18:07, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
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The Forerunner idea is also a possibility, seeing as we know they had some sort of presence there... although I absolutely agree that the rules of life probably vary considerably between planets (both as far as Halo is concerned and in reality) [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 19:06, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | The Forerunner idea is also a possibility, seeing as we know they had some sort of presence there... although I absolutely agree that the rules of life probably vary considerably between planets (both as far as Halo is concerned and in reality) [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 19:06, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Yes, but the speed at which Reach's life evolved is astonishingly crazy. On Earth, there was a 3 billion year span from the very first life to the kind of life on Reach. I don't care what its origins are, no kind of life can get that complex in 1 billion years. If the life on Reach is native, then the Precursors must have been involved. Or, when the Forerunners inhabited the planet, they brought along some select species of value to them; similar to how they seed their artificial worlds.-- | ::Yes, but the speed at which Reach's life evolved is astonishingly crazy. On Earth, there was a 3 billion year span from the very first life to the kind of life on Reach. I don't care what its origins are, no kind of life can get that complex in 1 billion years. If the life on Reach is native, then the Precursors must have been involved. Or, when the Forerunners inhabited the planet, they brought along some select species of value to them; similar to how they seed their artificial worlds.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 19:31, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::Does anybody really think that the flora and fauna of Reach are truly native? That fish, birds, mammals and reptiles would evolve under even subtly different conditions to look nearly identical to those that developed on Earth? I don't believe it for one moment. Exactly ''how'' that life got there, I don't know - I'm sure the Forerunners or the Precursors had a hand in it, though exactly why remains to be seen. And until it is, we really can't say how it got there, or why. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:58, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | :::Does anybody really think that the flora and fauna of Reach are truly native? That fish, birds, mammals and reptiles would evolve under even subtly different conditions to look nearly identical to those that developed on Earth? I don't believe it for one moment. Exactly ''how'' that life got there, I don't know - I'm sure the Forerunners or the Precursors had a hand in it, though exactly why remains to be seen. And until it is, we really can't say how it got there, or why. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:58, 17 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::If you have an Earth-like planet, similar species are bound to evolve. For example, on Reach, I wouldn't expect to see a 7-legged mammal with eyes on its elbows. Evolution is all about how organisms adapt to their surroundings. Since Reach has very similar conditions to Earth, you would expect to see similar creatures. However, the only confirmed "native" species are the Moa and Gúta. All the others like the rats and koi are likely brought over from Earth. Pests like rats always find a way to piggyback off of human travel, and koi are more of a decoration than true wildlife, hence their existance in the uppity high-class tower on Refleciton.-- | ::::If you have an Earth-like planet, similar species are bound to evolve. For example, on Reach, I wouldn't expect to see a 7-legged mammal with eyes on its elbows. Evolution is all about how organisms adapt to their surroundings. Since Reach has very similar conditions to Earth, you would expect to see similar creatures. However, the only confirmed "native" species are the Moa and Gúta. All the others like the rats and koi are likely brought over from Earth. Pests like rats always find a way to piggyback off of human travel, and koi are more of a decoration than true wildlife, hence their existance in the uppity high-class tower on Refleciton.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:58, 18 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
:I agree with the Precurser theory - they had many successes with bio-technology (their ships, for example) and were capable of reprogramming life to evolve rapidly. I would also like to point out that evolution doesn't occur at a steady pace - you get get millions of years of little change when life is reacting well to their environments, hence why exagerated body parts hasn't become a norm for Crocodilians - they just don't see the necessity once it's mating season. Similarly you could get times where life flourishes and advances significantly - compare the late Permian with the mid-Jurassic, where two major extinction events replaced amphibians and mammal-like reptiles as the more successful animals with wave after wave of ingeniously-designed Diapsid reptiles with new forms of hip structure; the ability of flight and an unusual form of swimming never to be seen again. It is a harsh environment that forces life to evolve rapidly as it tries to make sense of the world.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 11:02, 25 May 2011 (EDT) | :I agree with the Precurser theory - they had many successes with bio-technology (their ships, for example) and were capable of reprogramming life to evolve rapidly. I would also like to point out that evolution doesn't occur at a steady pace - you get get millions of years of little change when life is reacting well to their environments, hence why exagerated body parts hasn't become a norm for Crocodilians - they just don't see the necessity once it's mating season. Similarly you could get times where life flourishes and advances significantly - compare the late Permian with the mid-Jurassic, where two major extinction events replaced amphibians and mammal-like reptiles as the more successful animals with wave after wave of ingeniously-designed Diapsid reptiles with new forms of hip structure; the ability of flight and an unusual form of swimming never to be seen again. It is a harsh environment that forces life to evolve rapidly as it tries to make sense of the world.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 11:02, 25 May 2011 (EDT) |