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Notice: commander Tony, if you come back to edit this page leave the bungie day picture notice on and the links alone unless you wish to update the halo 3 page, the MJOLNIR page, the CQB, SPI, EVa and armor premutation page ;] [[User: Ajax 013| Ajax 013]] 10th of july, 18:47 GMT
Notice: commander Tony, if you come back to edit this page leave the bungie day picture notice on and the links alone unless you wish to update the halo 3 page, the MJOLNIR page, the CQB, SPI, EVa and armor premutation page ;] [[User: Ajax 013| Ajax 013]] 10th of july, 18:47 GMT
:Looks just like CQB. =S Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#D3D3D3">Relen</font><font color="#A9A9A9">tless</font><font color="#808080">Recu</font><font color="#000000">sant</font>]] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new  <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK</font>]</sub></small> 18:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Looks just like CQB. =S Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#D3D3D3">Relen</font><font color="#A9A9A9">tless</font><font color="#808080">Recu</font><font color="#000000">sant</font>]] 'o the [[w:c:halo:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new  <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK</font>]</sub></small> 18:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::how? [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: cyan; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</span>]] 18:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
::how? [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: cyan; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</span>]] 18:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
====ODST armor====
====ODST armor====
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== Obviously CQB (Close Quarters Battle Armor) ==
== Obviously CQB (Close Quarters Battle Armor) ==


You know why? Because this is off of the June 2007 Gamepro magazine. It shows a red MJOLNIR armor, a blue MJOLNIR coming at the red one with an energy sword, the EVA armor to the side of the blue MJOLNIR, and barely visible right behind the blue MJOLNIR is this picture (obviously of the CQB). If you don't believe me, get the June issue of Gamepro and look right behind the blue Spartan, it looks like he's been put right on top of this armor. --File:Final Goji.jpg|40px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 14:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
You know why? Because this is off of the June 2007 Gamepro magazine. It shows a red MJOLNIR armor, a blue MJOLNIR coming at the red one with an energy sword, the EVA armor to the side of the blue MJOLNIR, and barely visible right behind the blue MJOLNIR is this picture (obviously of the CQB). If you don't believe me, get the June issue of Gamepro and look right behind the blue Spartan, it looks like he's been put right on top of this armor. --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|40px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 14:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


It's not "obviously" anything. I just pulled up both the wallpaper and the Quicktime C.Q.B., and there are some definite differences. When I first saw the wallpaper, I shrugged off this unknown armour as C.Q.B. too, until I looked closer when this article was made. Now, in comparison: the visors are different. The unknown appears to be a simple thin oval shape, unlike the "T" of the C.Q.B. It is possible that there's a shading issue, but it looks to me as if the unknown armour features a black outline around the visor, creating its own "T" shape. Also, the red on the helmet in the view given is in a zig-zag pattern not found on the C.Q.B. armour. C.Q.B. features no such markings. In addition, the helmets are shaped differently. The unknown armour helmet extends over the visor much like the original MJOLNIR helmet; the C.Q.B. helmet does not. Finally, in the wallpaper, the C.Q.B. has a definitely visible raised portion. The helmet of the unknown armour, on the other hand, appears entirely flush. --[[User:GhostXIII|Ghost]] 16:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
It's not "obviously" anything. I just pulled up both the wallpaper and the Quicktime C.Q.B., and there are some definite differences. When I first saw the wallpaper, I shrugged off this unknown armour as C.Q.B. too, until I looked closer when this article was made. Now, in comparison: the visors are different. The unknown appears to be a simple thin oval shape, unlike the "T" of the C.Q.B. It is possible that there's a shading issue, but it looks to me as if the unknown armour features a black outline around the visor, creating its own "T" shape. Also, the red on the helmet in the view given is in a zig-zag pattern not found on the C.Q.B. armour. C.Q.B. features no such markings. In addition, the helmets are shaped differently. The unknown armour helmet extends over the visor much like the original MJOLNIR helmet; the C.Q.B. helmet does not. Finally, in the wallpaper, the C.Q.B. has a definitely visible raised portion. The helmet of the unknown armour, on the other hand, appears entirely flush. --[[User:GhostXIII|Ghost]] 16:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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heh..i know this is unrelated but...i just can't help thinking of a power ranger when i see that pic :P [[User:Phil.e.|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New; font-size:10pt; color:white;">''' ''Phil.e.'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Phil.e.|<span style="color:black;">[Talk to me]</span>]]</sup> 17:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
heh..i know this is unrelated but...i just can't help thinking of a power ranger when i see that pic :P [[User:Phil.e.|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier New; font-size:10pt; color:white;">''' ''Phil.e.'' '''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Phil.e.|<span style="color:black;">[Talk to me]</span>]]</sup> 17:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


There is '''''not''''' going to be a Power Rangers armor in Halo 3! --File:Final Goji.jpg|40px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 18:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
There is '''''not''''' going to be a Power Rangers armor in Halo 3! --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|40px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 18:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


LMFO thanks alot Phil.e. i wanna be pink ranger :p!--File:GRAW.png|20px]][[User:Spartan 1138|<font color=black>'''MCPO Spartan'''</font>]] [[User talk:Spartan 1138|<font color=black>'''1138'''</font>]] 06:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
LMFO thanks alot Phil.e. i wanna be pink ranger :p!--[[Image:GRAW.png|20px]][[User:Spartan 1138|<font color=black>'''MCPO Spartan'''</font>]] [[User talk:Spartan 1138|<font color=black>'''1138'''</font>]] 06:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


== This video confirms it. ==
== This video confirms it. ==
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== maybe... ==
== maybe... ==


hey maybe this armor is a mix of them all? It looks like a CQB helmet, SPI chest, and some other shoulder plates in the second photo. This is my opinion that somone just took a snapshot of their spartan who is armed with a mix of armors. [[User: Stryker|<font color="Black">Spartan-010:Stryker</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Stryker|<font color="red">My Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Stryker|<font color=black>My Battles</font>]]</sub> File:Ensign Collar Device.JPG|15px]] 12:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
hey maybe this armor is a mix of them all? It looks like a CQB helmet, SPI chest, and some other shoulder plates in the second photo. This is my opinion that somone just took a snapshot of their spartan who is armed with a mix of armors. [[User: Stryker|<font color="Black">Spartan-010:Stryker</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Stryker|<font color="red">My Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Stryker|<font color=black>My Battles</font>]]</sub> [[Image:Ensign Collar Device.JPG|15px]] 12:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
:It isn't. Frankie's referred to it as "ODST" armor. [[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 11:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:It isn't. Frankie's referred to it as "ODST" armor. [[User:Azathoth|<font color="black">''theblackthrone''</font>]] [[User talk:Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(atthecenter)</sub></font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Azathoth|<font color="black"><sub>(ofultimatechaos)</sub></font>]] 11:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)




we'll all find out what it is on sept 25. [[User: Stryker|<font color="Black">Spartan-010:Stryker</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Stryker|<font color="red">My Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Stryker|<font color=black>My Battles</font>]]</sub> File:Ensign Collar Device.JPG|15px]] 20:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
we'll all find out what it is on sept 25. [[User: Stryker|<font color="Black">Spartan-010:Stryker</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Stryker|<font color="red">My Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Stryker|<font color=black>My Battles</font>]]</sub> [[Image:Ensign Collar Device.JPG|15px]] 20:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


== closer look ==
== closer look ==
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I think the this permutation is called "Cobra". I know this isn't a very good source, but here it is: [http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/stuntmutt.html?type=main&image=686] It's on HBO so it could be reliable.  
I think the this permutation is called "Cobra". I know this isn't a very good source, but here it is: [http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/stuntmutt.html?type=main&image=686] It's on HBO so it could be reliable.  


I think someone should probably double-check if this really is only available to Bungie employees. It's not cited, nor is it mentioned in the article if this has been announced anywhere.[[halowikia:Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/A Company|<font color="black">'''1stSgt'''</font>]]File:Marine Corp 1stSgt.jpg|20px]][[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]] 18:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I think someone should probably double-check if this really is only available to Bungie employees. It's not cited, nor is it mentioned in the article if this has been announced anywhere.[[w:c:halo:Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/A Company|<font color="black">'''1stSgt'''</font>]][[Image:Marine Corp 1stSgt.jpg|20px]][[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]] 18:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)




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== Keep Dreaming, guys... ==
== Keep Dreaming, guys... ==


It has been confirmed that this armor is only available to Bungie employees. READ (near bottom): [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12857 Commence crying] I know I will. [[User:E93|<font color="Green">Eduardo Jimenez</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:E93|<font color="Blue">Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/E93|<font color=Gray>Contributions</font>]]</sub>File:Marine_Corp_CPL.JPG|20px]]UoH/C Company|<font color="#000000">C Company</font>]] 23:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It has been confirmed that this armor is only available to Bungie employees. READ (near bottom): [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12857 Commence crying] I know I will. [[User:E93|<font color="Green">Eduardo Jimenez</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:E93|<font color="Blue">Comm</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/E93|<font color=Gray>Contributions</font>]]</sub>[[Image:Marine_Corp_CPL.JPG|20px]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/C Company|<font color="#000000">C Company</font>]] 23:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)




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Is "recon" a real word, because it comes up in my spell check. I hear it a lot, too, so it must be, right? [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: cyan; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</span>]] 18:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Is "recon" a real word, because it comes up in my spell check. I hear it a lot, too, so it must be, right? [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: cyan; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</span>]] 18:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


:Its short for "[[Wikipedia:Reconnaissance|Reconnaissance]]," or "Reconnoitre", though the previous word is used more. --'''CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 22:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:Its short for "[[Wikipedia:Reconnaissance|Reconnaissance]]," or "Reconnoitre", though the previous word is used more. --'''[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[userWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 22:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


I've never even heard that...lol.[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 16:16, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I've never even heard that...lol.[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 16:16, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::::Where'd you hear it? If you add it, cite the source using a REF tag -- I can tell you how, if you wish.
:::::Where'd you hear it? If you add it, cite the source using a REF tag -- I can tell you how, if you wish.
:::::Also, I'm fairly certain that armor data is stored ''both'' with your Service Record ''and'' your hard drive. That's why other armor permutations work offline. I am thus also certain that this means Recon is usable offline.
:::::Also, I'm fairly certain that armor data is stored ''both'' with your Service Record ''and'' your hard drive. That's why other armor permutations work offline. I am thus also certain that this means Recon is usable offline.
:::::Also, I took the liberty of indenting the comments here to make it easier to tell what paragraph is part of what comment. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 20:02, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Also, I took the liberty of indenting the comments here to make it easier to tell what paragraph is part of what comment. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 20:02, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


:::::: Well, armor data is stored offline, but Recon isn't unlocked via achievements for Halo 3. It is activated server side by Bungie, so if you don't have an internet connection, your armor won't show up (no connection to the Bungie Server). I necessarily have a reliable source, but I do have the forum post where I asked, the link is http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=34917835 Also, thanks for the indexing :) [[Special:Contributions/98.203.27.158|98.203.27.158]] 21:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC) LNA Big D
:::::: Well, armor data is stored offline, but Recon isn't unlocked via achievements for Halo 3. It is activated server side by Bungie, so if you don't have an internet connection, your armor won't show up (no connection to the Bungie Server). I necessarily have a reliable source, but I do have the forum post where I asked, the link is http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=34917835 Also, thanks for the indexing :) [[Special:Contributions/98.203.27.158|98.203.27.158]] 21:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC) LNA Big D


::::::: Yes, the armor is ''received'' from the server, but I would think that once it's received, its status (as unlocked) is stored on both client and server, right? Don't see why that wouldn't be the case, anyway, unless Bungie was super-paranoid about people modding their saves to have Recon -- and even then, Bungie's the one who gives it out, so they have a list of who's supposed to have it, making it easy to ban such mods... <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 02:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Yes, the armor is ''received'' from the server, but I would think that once it's received, its status (as unlocked) is stored on both client and server, right? Don't see why that wouldn't be the case, anyway, unless Bungie was super-paranoid about people modding their saves to have Recon -- and even then, Bungie's the one who gives it out, so they have a list of who's supposed to have it, making it easy to ban such mods... <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 02:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


== Clean up. ==
== Clean up. ==
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It came to my attention while browsing the Internet and Youtube that there were many adds and videos about a "secret hack to get Recon" or "a secret skull that unlock Recon" or even "Buy Recon armor". Of course, all of this is BS. Should we mention these snake-oil videos and adds in the article? I was just wondering.
It came to my attention while browsing the Internet and Youtube that there were many adds and videos about a "secret hack to get Recon" or "a secret skull that unlock Recon" or even "Buy Recon armor". Of course, all of this is BS. Should we mention these snake-oil videos and adds in the article? I was just wondering.


:Better not to add fuel to the flames. Technically, a hack would work - the Recon permutation is just a file on the disk that is normally unavailable to normal players. hacking would access that file - it would also earn a swift and well-deserved crushing by the almighty banhammer. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 09:47, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
:Better not to add fuel to the flames. Technically, a hack would work - the Recon permutation is just a file on the disk that is normally unavailable to normal players. hacking would access that file - it would also earn a swift and well-deserved crushing by the almighty banhammer. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 09:47, August 12, 2010 (UTC)


== Requirements in Reach? ==
== Requirements in Reach? ==
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Isn't Tactical Recon in its own right the Recon chest piece? If it is then shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere?--[[User talk:Theraptor92|Theraptor92]] 13:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)
Isn't Tactical Recon in its own right the Recon chest piece? If it is then shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere?--[[User talk:Theraptor92|Theraptor92]] 13:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)


:Actually, it's called the "Tactical'''<u>/</u>'''Recon" chest piece, which means it's a variant of the "Tactical" series of the armor, and not Recon. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub>
:Actually, it's called the "Tactical'''<u>/</u>'''Recon" chest piece, which means it's a variant of the "Tactical" series of the armor, and not Recon. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub>


:I always thought it was wierd we organized them like that, the first word is usually just something that describes what the general use of that piece is, like "UA" is hardened and armoured pieces. "UA" wouldn't be something like Recon, CQB, etc, but more like (for weapons) the terms, assault rifle, SMG, pistol, etc. For example, the Beretta PX4 is a pistol version of the Beretta CX4 carbine. But if they were armour, they should go together as they're part of the same family. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 01:21, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
:I always thought it was wierd we organized them like that, the first word is usually just something that describes what the general use of that piece is, like "UA" is hardened and armoured pieces. "UA" wouldn't be something like Recon, CQB, etc, but more like (for weapons) the terms, assault rifle, SMG, pistol, etc. For example, the Beretta PX4 is a pistol version of the Beretta CX4 carbine. But if they were armour, they should go together as they're part of the same family. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 01:21, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
I get what Spartan 331 is saying but is it not possible that Tactical/Recon is in its own right a Recon chest piece? Sorry about this reply being months after that but sometimes things like this can be confusing. --[[User talk:Theraptor92|Theraptor92]] 20:14, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

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