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Does anyone have a picture of the ones that pilot pelicans in Halo 2?--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 22:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC) | Does anyone have a picture of the ones that pilot pelicans in Halo 2?--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 22:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
Brain Forms can't fly. | Brain Forms can't fly. | ||
== Brain ability to control technology == | == Brain ability to control technology == | ||
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== nomenclature == | == nomenclature == | ||
You know, where exactly does the term ''Brain Form'' come from anyway? I was always under the assumption that it was called a ''Commander Form''. I forgot where i got that term, but I never saw Brain form until i saw it on an old fansite. '''<tt>[[user:Dude984|<font color=green>Dude984</font>]]</tt>''' <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[user talk:Dude984|Communications]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>-<nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Dude984|Contributions]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> | You know, where exactly does the term ''Brain Form'' come from anyway? I was always under the assumption that it was called a ''Commander Form''. I forgot where i got that term, but I never saw Brain form until i saw it on an old fansite. '''<tt>[[user:Dude984|<font color=green>Dude984</font>]]</tt>''' <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[user talk:Dude984|Communications]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>-<nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Dude984|Contributions]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup>[[Image:Dude avatar copy.gif|25px]] 02:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
:I don't know for sure, but most of this comes from HBO. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | :I don't know for sure, but most of this comes from HBO. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
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<s>{{Support}}HEL YES! --[[User:72.15.94.59|72.15.94.59]] 22:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)</s> | <s>{{Support}}HEL YES! --[[User:72.15.94.59|72.15.94.59]] 22:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)</s> | ||
:Only registered users may vote. <span title="I am not an employee of Wikia.">Çya</span>, [[ | :Only registered users may vote. <span title="I am not an employee of Wikia.">Çya</span>, [[w:c:halo:User:Mouse among men|<font color="black">M</font>]][[w:c:halo:User talk:Mouse among men|<font color="black">ø</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mouse among men|<font color="black">u</font>]][[w:c:halo:Halopedia:Parasite of Halopedia|<font color="black">s</font>]][[w:c:halo:User:Mouse among men/Sandbox|<font color="black">e</font>]] 02:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
{{Support}} The Proto-Gravemind might not be a Brain Form, it might be a stage AFTER the Brain Form.--[[User:A Grunts Savior|The Demonic Idiot]] 01:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC) | {{Support}} The Proto-Gravemind might not be a Brain Form, it might be a stage AFTER the Brain Form.--[[User:A Grunts Savior|The Demonic Idiot]] 01:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
{{Support}} Protos may be made of multiple brain forms, we have no clear evidence that a Proto-Gravemind is the exact same as a Brain Form. [[User:Spartan 112|Spartan 112]] 15:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | {{Support}} Protos may be made of multiple brain forms, we have no clear evidence that a Proto-Gravemind is the exact same as a Brain Form. [[User:Spartan 112|Spartan 112]] 15:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
::My main problem with the name brain form is that its never mentioned in Halo games, novels, comics, etc. Its not mentioned ''Anywhere''. The Beastarium, which mentions species not seen in the games like the Engineers and Precursors, doesn't mention "Brain Form" anywhere. And its Bungie's definitive source on '''all''' halo species. --[[User:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">Elite</font>''']][[User talk:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">Spartan</font>''']] | ::My main problem with the name brain form is that its never mentioned in Halo games, novels, comics, etc. Its not mentioned ''Anywhere''. The Beastarium, which mentions species not seen in the games like the Engineers and Precursors, doesn't mention "Brain Form" anywhere. And its Bungie's definitive source on '''all''' halo species. --[[User:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">Elite</font>''']][[User talk:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">Spartan</font>''']][[Image:MVP achievement.gif|30px]] 17:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
{{Support}} Their is no evidence that the proto-gravemind and brain form are the same. And I remember Brain form | {{Support}} Their is no evidence that the proto-gravemind and brain form are the same. And I remember Brain form | ||
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===Against=== | ===Against=== | ||
{{Oppose}}What does halo 1 have anything to do with a gravemind in halo 2 and 3?--''' | {{Oppose}}What does halo 1 have anything to do with a gravemind in halo 2 and 3?--'''[[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/Council|<font color="DarkOrange">General</font>]]''' '''[[User:Ryanngreenday|<font color="DarkOrange">Running</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="DarkOrange">Riot</font>]] [[User:Ryanngreenday/Me|<font color="red">R</font>]][[User:Ryanngreenday/Time line of Ryan|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Ryanngreenday/USER BOX|<font color="red">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="red">n</font>]]'''[[Image:'s_emblem.jpg|15px]] 22:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
{{Oppose}}Can't be done. Brain form is a made up fan name. Proto-Gravemind is the name given by bungie. --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]] | {{Oppose}}Can't be done. Brain form is a made up fan name. Proto-Gravemind is the name given by bungie. --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]][[Image:Killing Spree Medal.gif|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>[[Image:Sergeant.jpg|30px]][[Image:GDI.jpg|30px]] November 5 2007 | ||
::It is never said that THIS was a proto-gravemind, only that "a Gravemind is formed when a Proto-Graveming reaches critical mass" annd not "A proto-gravemind is a brainform, go screw up all of our fan's lives", retard . | ::It is never said that THIS was a proto-gravemind, only that "a Gravemind is formed when a Proto-Graveming reaches critical mass" annd not "A proto-gravemind is a brainform, go screw up all of our fan's lives", retard . | ||
:::The beastarium(which has the info on ALL halo species) never even mentions a "Brain Form". All evidence points to this creature being a proto-gravemind. Calm down stuff gets renamed all the time its not a big deal.--[[User:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">EliteSpartan</font>''']] | :::The beastarium(which has the info on ALL halo species) never even mentions a "Brain Form". All evidence points to this creature being a proto-gravemind. Calm down stuff gets renamed all the time its not a big deal.--[[User:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Green">EliteSpartan</font>''']] [[Image:Sergeant-gr3.gif|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Black">My Talk</font>''']]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|'''<font color="Black">My Contribs</font>''']]</sub>[[Image:Cavalier achievement.gif|30px]] 21:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Evidence? "Protogravemind" only said once! I don't even count Bestiaruim (the DVD spelling) or any books as canon unless mentioned or noted in the games. The books are not by Bungie, just by some guy in Washington (My home state). I should just ask them, It's about an hour drive from my house anyways. {{unsigned|71.112.156.166}} | ::Evidence? "Protogravemind" only said once! I don't even count Bestiaruim (the DVD spelling) or any books as canon unless mentioned or noted in the games. The books are not by Bungie, just by some guy in Washington (My home state). I should just ask them, It's about an hour drive from my house anyways. {{unsigned|71.112.156.166}} | ||
:::To the above comment on official cannon, 1. Some books were indeed written by Bungie members, and 2. [[http:// | :::To the above comment on official cannon, 1. Some books were indeed written by Bungie members, and 2. [[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halopedia:Canon_Policy]]. As you can see, books, after Bungie employees and the games, are the next superior source of canon, according to Halopedia, which is where we are right now. Since, as you said, the game does not say anything about the subject, the canon provided in the books presides.[[User talk:Headhunter09|Headhunter09]] 11:35, December 18, 2009 (UTC) | ||
{{Oppose}}The Beastiarium came bundled with Halo 3, which is canon, so I would say to trust the Beastiarium. According to [[Halopedia:Canon | {{Oppose}}The Beastiarium came bundled with Halo 3, which is canon, so I would say to trust the Beastiarium. According to [[Halopedia:Canon Policy]], the Beastiarium ranks as "Other Media", so unless Bungie, an affialiate, the novels, or the games say otherwise, trust it. <span title="I am not an employee of Wikia.">Çya</span>, [[w:c:halo:User:Mouse among men|<font color="black">M</font>]][[w:c:halo:User talk:Mouse among men|<font color="black">ø</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mouse among men|<font color="black">u</font>]][[w:c:halo:Halopedia:Parasite of Halopedia|<font color="black">s</font>]][[w:c:halo:User:Mouse among men/Sandbox|<font color="black">e</font>]] 18:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
{{Oppose}}Yeah, I'm pretty sure it ''is'' Bungie, or at least approved by Bungie. ''That'' book was included in the game. The writers ''do'' see the Halo Bible. Contact Harvest was even written by the ''Bungie'' guy who cowrote the games. And please don't hassle them. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC) | {{Oppose}}Yeah, I'm pretty sure it ''is'' Bungie, or at least approved by Bungie. ''That'' book was included in the game. The writers ''do'' see the Halo Bible. Contact Harvest was even written by the ''Bungie'' guy who cowrote the games. And please don't hassle them. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
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{{Oppose}} Official names FTW!!! '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">Guesty</font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">Persony</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green">Thingy</font>]]''' 07:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | {{Oppose}} Official names FTW!!! '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">Guesty</font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">Persony</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green">Thingy</font>]]''' 07:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
{{Oppose}} Agreed. Official names take precedence over fan names. [[User:Calgar|'''Rima 'Lacusee''']] | {{Oppose}} Agreed. Official names take precedence over fan names. [[User:Calgar|'''Rima 'Lacusee''']] [[Image:MinorElite5.jpg|24px]] <sup>|[[User talk:Calgar|Talk]]|Minor Domo of the [[Halopedia:Covenant of Halopedia|Covenant]]|</sup> 10:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
{{Oppose}} Sorry boys, it needs to stay Proto-Gravemind. It's like calling the Chief John instead of John-117 --[[ | {{Oppose}} Sorry boys, it needs to stay Proto-Gravemind. It's like calling the Chief John instead of John-117 --[[w:c:godzilla:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">The Lord of Monster Island</font>]] <sup>[[w:c:unhalo:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#660099>The Lord of Grunts</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[w:c:halo:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#FFCC00>SPARTAN-012 James</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[w:c:halofanon:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#00FF00>MCPO James Davis</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sup> 20:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
{{Oppose}} I agree with the above [[User:Honor Guard Reborn]] | {{Oppose}} I agree with the above [[User:Honor Guard Reborn]] | ||
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:My reaction: | :My reaction: | ||
:#Paragraph breaks are awesome and help to combat what I call the "TL;DR Effect". I did read your comment, but had I not read it via the Diff, I might not have read it at all due to the sheer size. | :#Paragraph breaks are awesome and help to combat what I call the "TL;DR Effect". I did read your comment, but had I not read it via the [[Help:Diff|Diff]], I might not have read it at all due to the sheer size. | ||
:#Both forms are created using the same method. Merge a bunch of infected bodies and you've got the beginnings of your so-called "[[Brain Form|Pilot Form]]". Merge a bunch of infected bodies and you're [[Proto-Gravemind|well on your way]] to making [[Gravemind|gravy]]. | :#Both forms are created using the same method. Merge a bunch of infected bodies and you've got the beginnings of your so-called "[[Brain Form|Pilot Form]]". Merge a bunch of infected bodies and you're [[Proto-Gravemind|well on your way]] to making [[Gravemind|gravy]]. | ||
:#"Flood Captain" could well be a prototypical name, or could have been derived from Captain Keyes' contribution to the form. Hell, it could refer to Keyes himself -- the form might not have been named a Flood Captain but instead a [[Flood]] [[Captain Keyes|Captain]]. | :#"Flood Captain" could well be a prototypical name, or could have been derived from Captain Keyes' contribution to the form. Hell, it could refer to Keyes himself -- the form might not have been named a Flood Captain but instead a [[Flood]] [[Captain Keyes|Captain]]. | ||
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:#*Now say he needs to pilot fifty ships. So he has his Combat Forms construct fifty Proto-Graveminds. Then, he relays general commands to the Proto-Graveminds, which act as [[Wikipedia:network hub|network hub]]s, simplifying the Gravemind's operations by lightening the load, so to speak. He gives a general command to the Proto-Gravemind, and the uncooked gravy decides how best to execute that command given its immediate surroundings and the available Flood forms within those surroundings. | :#*Now say he needs to pilot fifty ships. So he has his Combat Forms construct fifty Proto-Graveminds. Then, he relays general commands to the Proto-Graveminds, which act as [[Wikipedia:network hub|network hub]]s, simplifying the Gravemind's operations by lightening the load, so to speak. He gives a general command to the Proto-Gravemind, and the uncooked gravy decides how best to execute that command given its immediate surroundings and the available Flood forms within those surroundings. | ||
:#Given such a setup, subordinate Proto-Graveminds wouldn't want to increase in mass because there's already enough gravy to go around. All Flood forms have a linked mind, the Gravemind's mind... so if two Graveminds were to be formed "within range" of each other, their minds would likely be linked. Do you really think that an egotistical -- and likely narcissistic -- being who hates being outsmarted and obviously doesn't work with others would [[Wikipedia:Dissociative identity disorder|get along with itself]]? Neither do I. | :#Given such a setup, subordinate Proto-Graveminds wouldn't want to increase in mass because there's already enough gravy to go around. All Flood forms have a linked mind, the Gravemind's mind... so if two Graveminds were to be formed "within range" of each other, their minds would likely be linked. Do you really think that an egotistical -- and likely narcissistic -- being who hates being outsmarted and obviously doesn't work with others would [[Wikipedia:Dissociative identity disorder|get along with itself]]? Neither do I. | ||
:So my basic argument, then, is that Brain Forms and Proto-Graveminds are formed the same way, the Gravemind is like the center of a Star network, Proto-Graveminds act like hubs when there's already a Gravemind, and subordinate Proto-Graveminds limit their growth so as to prevent the Gravemind from being affected by multiple personality disorder. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> | :So my basic argument, then, is that Brain Forms and Proto-Graveminds are formed the same way, the Gravemind is like the center of a Star network, Proto-Graveminds act like hubs when there's already a Gravemind, and subordinate Proto-Graveminds limit their growth so as to prevent the Gravemind from being affected by multiple personality disorder. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 22:15, September 2, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Haha, Mr. Cobb, I do believe I'd have to agree with the majority of your analysis. And sorry about the paragraph breaks. I wasn't really thinking about formatting at the time. | ::Haha, Mr. Cobb, I do believe I'd have to agree with the majority of your analysis. And sorry about the paragraph breaks. I wasn't really thinking about formatting at the time. | ||
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:::Well, under my theory, all Flood can act as a kind of hub (relaying Gravy's commands to other nearby Flood), but Proto-Graveminds receive delegation -- unlike Combat Forms, uncooked gravy would, under my theory, receive ''general'' instructions, and be granted the freedom to execute those instructions as it sees fit, with control over any nearby resources (like other Flood forms). ''If'' this theory is correct, then a Proto-Gravemind would be a Flood form with sufficient intelligence ''and'' authority to make its own low-level decisions about how to accomplish Gravy's higher-level goals. If a normal Flood form just passes information, then a Proto-Gravemind could be a Flood form that makes small decisions in addition to passing information. | :::Well, under my theory, all Flood can act as a kind of hub (relaying Gravy's commands to other nearby Flood), but Proto-Graveminds receive delegation -- unlike Combat Forms, uncooked gravy would, under my theory, receive ''general'' instructions, and be granted the freedom to execute those instructions as it sees fit, with control over any nearby resources (like other Flood forms). ''If'' this theory is correct, then a Proto-Gravemind would be a Flood form with sufficient intelligence ''and'' authority to make its own low-level decisions about how to accomplish Gravy's higher-level goals. If a normal Flood form just passes information, then a Proto-Gravemind could be a Flood form that makes small decisions in addition to passing information. | ||
:::Nevertheless, though, this is somewhat mysterious. Hopefully, more about the Flood's enigmatic nature will be revealed -- there's still flood on Delta Halo and outside the Milky Way Galaxy, and the Flood-Forerunner War remains largely a mystery, so Bungie and/or 343 Industries has plenty to work with. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> | :::Nevertheless, though, this is somewhat mysterious. Hopefully, more about the Flood's enigmatic nature will be revealed -- there's still flood on Delta Halo and outside the Milky Way Galaxy, and the Flood-Forerunner War remains largely a mystery, so Bungie and/or 343 Industries has plenty to work with. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 19:52, September 10, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::That is to say, think of a Proto-Gravemind as the regional manager at your local McDonalds. He gets general commands from the big guys, and gives specific commands to the employees. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> | ::::That is to say, think of a Proto-Gravemind as the regional manager at your local McDonalds. He gets general commands from the big guys, and gives specific commands to the employees. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 19:55, September 10, 2009 (UTC) | ||
I am going to agre with you on this, David, "Proto-Gravemind" is the official name of this Flood form (and ''Halo Wars'' proves it since when you click on the Proto-Gravemind,it says "Proto-Gravemind" , and ''Halo Wars'' is an official canon in the ''Halo'' series, and I am getting tiered of people saying it's not, it ''IS''. Just because it is not developed by Bungie does not mean it is not apart of the series, thats like saying a guy who has a wife and some kids that are his kids cheats on his wife with another women that gives birth to a baby and people say that baby is not his kid, but it is) and Gravemind may have formed from a Proto-Gravemind, but remember, Gravemind is the leader of the Flood and there is only one of him, but theres more than one Proto-Gravemind, because the Proto-Gravemind is a different flood form and serves the roles of general (keeping an eye on the other Flood forms for Gravemind, which the one in ''Halo Wars'' dose) and as pilot of a spaceship that needs a higher intellegence for pilot (whch the one in ''Halo 1'' and the one in the ''Halo Graphic Novel'' do because those I think are defenitly Proto-Graveminds) under the comand of Gravemind,who has the role as the Flood's leader, and all other Flood forms have the role as the troops. Yet the only simmilaritys that I found between Gravemind and the Proto-Graveminds is the name (duh XP) and that they both consum and absorb the bodies of sentient life forms to grow (but Gravemind grows unlimetly, for a Proto-Gravemind just need a specific amount.), so I hope that sums it all up. - Annonimus October 14, 2009 10:19 pm (UTC) | I am going to agre with you on this, David, "Proto-Gravemind" is the official name of this Flood form (and ''Halo Wars'' proves it since when you click on the Proto-Gravemind,it says "Proto-Gravemind" , and ''Halo Wars'' is an official canon in the ''Halo'' series, and I am getting tiered of people saying it's not, it ''IS''. Just because it is not developed by Bungie does not mean it is not apart of the series, thats like saying a guy who has a wife and some kids that are his kids cheats on his wife with another women that gives birth to a baby and people say that baby is not his kid, but it is) and Gravemind may have formed from a Proto-Gravemind, but remember, Gravemind is the leader of the Flood and there is only one of him, but theres more than one Proto-Gravemind, because the Proto-Gravemind is a different flood form and serves the roles of general (keeping an eye on the other Flood forms for Gravemind, which the one in ''Halo Wars'' dose) and as pilot of a spaceship that needs a higher intellegence for pilot (whch the one in ''Halo 1'' and the one in the ''Halo Graphic Novel'' do because those I think are defenitly Proto-Graveminds) under the comand of Gravemind,who has the role as the Flood's leader, and all other Flood forms have the role as the troops. Yet the only simmilaritys that I found between Gravemind and the Proto-Graveminds is the name (duh XP) and that they both consum and absorb the bodies of sentient life forms to grow (but Gravemind grows unlimetly, for a Proto-Gravemind just need a specific amount.), so I hope that sums it all up. - Annonimus October 14, 2009 10:19 pm (UTC) | ||
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== Flood San 'Shyuum Form == | == Flood San 'Shyuum Form == | ||
Let me just say that when it was merged there was no sufficient evidence to say it is the ''Proto-Gravemind'' because all you had [[User:Subtank|Subtank]] was a picture and a bit speculation. And just because she is an [[Halopedia:Administrators|Administrator]] doesn't mean you have to belive her all the time. Just because you '''think''' that the ''[[Flood]] San 'Shyuum Form'' is the [[Proto-Gravemind]] all along what about a confirmation or enough evidence because it could be so but there is hardly any evidence. If you provide me a confirmation and/or sufficient evidence I will agree with the fact it is the ''Proto-Gravemind''. --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 09:55, May 23, 2010 (UTC) | Let me just say that when it was merged there was no sufficient evidence to say it is the ''Proto-Gravemind'' because all you had [[User:Subtank|Subtank]] was a picture and a bit speculation. And just because she is an [[Halopedia:Administrators|Administrator]] doesn't mean you have to belive her all the time. Just because you '''think''' that the ''[[Flood]] San 'Shyuum Form'' is the [[Proto-Gravemind]] all along what about a confirmation or enough evidence because it could be so but there is hardly any evidence. If you provide me a confirmation and/or sufficient evidence I will agree with the fact it is the ''Proto-Gravemind''. -->[[File:Captain Grade One.png|25px]] '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>([[UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 09:55, May 23, 2010 (UTC) | ||
All I want is a source and/or sufficient evidence. --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">Userpage</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">User talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">Editcount</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">UserWiki</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Userboxes</span>]])</sup>''' 13:10, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | All I want is a source and/or sufficient evidence. -->[[File:Captain Grade One.png|25px]] '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">Userpage</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">User talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">Editcount</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email</span>]] <small>([[UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">UserWiki</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Userboxes</span>]])</sup>''' 13:10, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:The Prophet Form is an ''unofficial Flood form'' made up by the '''fans'''. It has never been an official flood form. As such, it should've be deleted from Halopedia, but the past Administration decided it has the potential of being an actual official flood form. Halo Legends disproved this, and as such, it has been merged.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:47, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | :The Prophet Form is an ''unofficial Flood form'' made up by the '''fans'''. It has never been an official flood form. As such, it should've be deleted from Halopedia, but the past Administration decided it has the potential of being an actual official flood form. Halo Legends disproved this, and as such, it has been merged.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:47, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:And it was discussed via the Irk. As such, logs of the discussion may have not been recorded.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:48, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | :And it was discussed via the [[IRC|Irk]]. As such, logs of the discussion may have not been recorded.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:48, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::It can stay like that but I think that it shouldn't have been merged because what you said is not sufficient evidence so the article should have stayed until further confirmations and such and all of that is made up by you. -->[[File:Captain Grade One.png|25px]] '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">Userpage</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">User talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">Editcount</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email</span>]] <small>([[UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">UserWiki</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Userboxes</span>]])</sup>''' 14:17, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | |||