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It seems to be more of a concept image to me, i think it would be better if it was from a scene from one of the halo games | It seems to be more of a concept image to me, i think it would be better if it was from a scene from one of the halo games | ||
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== "Ah, politics. How tiresome." == | == "Ah, politics. How tiresome." == | ||
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::::I just now realized how jerky I sounded... anyway, yeah, the important thing is that it was said by Truth, not one of the Elites. =D '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">g<sup>u</sup>e<sub>s</sub>t<sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">p<sub>e</sub>r<sup>s</sup>o<sub>n</sub>y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green"><sup>t</sup>h<sub>i</sub>n<sup>g</sup>y</font>]]'''<font color="purple"><sup>I too am an AI... my owner's name is [[User:RelentlessRecusant|Supreme Honcho.]]</sup></font> 04:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC) | ::::I just now realized how jerky I sounded... anyway, yeah, the important thing is that it was said by Truth, not one of the Elites. =D '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">g<sup>u</sup>e<sub>s</sub>t<sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">p<sub>e</sub>r<sup>s</sup>o<sub>n</sub>y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green"><sup>t</sup>h<sub>i</sub>n<sup>g</sup>y</font>]]'''<font color="purple"><sup>I too am an AI... my owner's name is [[User:RelentlessRecusant|Supreme Honcho.]]</sup></font> 04:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
== | == Reasons and Motives == | ||
the most simple explination for truths motives to have supreme power and then destory all life if he nows about the great journey and why he replaced the elites with the brutes is that he is insane. [[User:Kami-Sama]] | the most simple explination for truths motives to have supreme power and then destory all life if he nows about the great journey and why he replaced the elites with the brutes is that he is insane. [[User:Kami-Sama]] | ||
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*TOCR, that's a good question. Maybe he thought he could be the God of Gods, the one who would build a suitable galaxy and lord over everyone else. And good quotation! It suits his personality, and pretty much sums up his reasons/motives. [[User:Sephirose|Sephirose]] | *TOCR, that's a good question. Maybe he thought he could be the God of Gods, the one who would build a suitable galaxy and lord over everyone else. And good quotation! It suits his personality, and pretty much sums up his reasons/motives. [[User:Sephirose|Sephirose]] | ||
Truth obviously believes in the promise of the Great Journey. When he is about to die he proclaims that he "shall become a god." This displays that he both does not truly know what the rings do or how they work. As the interpreters between relics and the covenant likely anything the empire believes is what the prophets believe. Forerunners are believed to be gods by the prophets and likely believe they are unworthy to understand how Forerunner devices worked. All the covenant's technology is converted but not improved upon. It is quite possible that the prophets know what the forerunners did to 'become gods' but not how the process would work. Furthermore Truth states that humans were left behind by the forerunners who were strong enough to do what must be done to become gods and humans were weak. It can be interpreted that he is referring to Keyes hesitation to kill Johnson and herself and our emphasis on protecting our bodies. Truth knows that activating the rings will kill his body and make him a god as evidenced by his belief that he will become a god even if they kill him because the rings have been 'activated.' Also he likely does not know the effective ranges of the rings but does know that forerunners transcended when they were on the Ark. Guilty Spark panics when the flood arrive on the Ark because it is outside the range of all the 'active installations.' As each ring has a effective range of more than one galactic radii, if all the rings were placed in the center the effect would still reach outside the galaxy. Since forerunners were on the Ark when the rings were activated but still died it could be surmised that installation 04 could be the one to include the Ark in its radius. Therefore if Truth understood everything as many believe him to he would know he would not become a god, his enemies would not be killed, and humans were saved by forerunner compassion and not left from contempt. Thus, Truth is a believer not a mad prophet, and he is not insane but believes he is the 'instrument of the gods' and the divisions of power serve only to slow the Great Journey. | Truth obviously believes in the promise of the Great Journey. When he is about to die he proclaims that he "shall become a god." This displays that he both does not truly know what the rings do or how they work. As the interpreters between relics and the covenant likely anything the empire believes is what the prophets believe. Forerunners are believed to be gods by the prophets and likely believe they are unworthy to understand how Forerunner devices worked. All the covenant's technology is converted but not improved upon. It is quite possible that the prophets know what the forerunners did to 'become gods' but not how the process would work. Furthermore Truth states that humans were left behind by the forerunners who were strong enough to do what must be done to become gods and humans were weak. It can be interpreted that he is referring to Keyes hesitation to kill Johnson and herself and our emphasis on protecting our bodies. Truth knows that activating the rings will kill his body and make him a god as evidenced by his belief that he will become a god even if they kill him because the rings have been 'activated.' Also he likely does not know the effective ranges of the rings but does know that forerunners transcended when they were on the Ark. Guilty Spark panics when the flood arrive on the Ark because it is outside the range of all the 'active installations.' As each ring has a effective range of more than one galactic radii, if all the rings were placed in the center the effect would still reach outside the galaxy. Since forerunners were on the Ark when the rings were activated but still died it could be surmised that installation 04 could be the one to include the Ark in its radius. Therefore if Truth understood everything as many believe him to he would know he would not become a god, his enemies would not be killed, and humans were saved by forerunner compassion and not left from contempt. Thus, Truth is a believer not a mad prophet, and he is not insane but believes he is the 'instrument of the gods' and the divisions of power serve only to slow the Great Journey. | ||
Also, Truth's lack of emotion at the loss of the first Halo and his eagerness to let Regret die could be because it does not hinder the Great Journey but advances his plans to remove the Elites. Should elites be responsible for the destruction of a sacred ring and the death of a high prophet then Truth would have ample reason to remove elites from positions of power. Truth likely wishes to replace elites with brutes because brutes are unquestioning while the elites are more independent. Truth could more easily accomplish his goals if neither prophets nor elites demand explanations or a mere hand in the works. | Also, Truth's lack of emotion at the loss of the first Halo and his eagerness to let Regret die could be because it does not hinder the Great Journey but advances his plans to remove the Elites. Should elites be responsible for the destruction of a sacred ring and the death of a high prophet then Truth would have ample reason to remove elites from positions of power. Truth likely wishes to replace elites with brutes because brutes are unquestioning while the elites are more independent. Truth could more easily accomplish his goals if neither prophets nor elites demand explanations or a mere hand in the works. | ||
P.S. Great Journey might be a forerunner euphemism for death. | P.S. Great Journey might be a forerunner euphemism for death. | ||
== Shared Power == | == Shared Power == | ||
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Very good. Truth likely has supreme power because he can sway the other two to his way. He is eager for the other two's deaths because he would no longer be forced to keep the two from working together against Truth. | Very good. Truth likely has supreme power because he can sway the other two to his way. He is eager for the other two's deaths because he would no longer be forced to keep the two from working together against Truth. | ||
== name == | == name == | ||
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== Spoilers? == | == Spoilers? == | ||
Someone posted a quote from the leaked Tsavo Highway. Fortunately, he got it too garbled to make heads or tails of it, so it doesnt reveal anything unless you speak fluent N00B. | Someone posted a quote from the leaked Tsavo Highway. Fortunately, he got it too garbled to make heads or tails of it, so it doesnt reveal anything unless you speak fluent N00B. [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 07:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Well if the leaked video is true, and it sure looks legitiment, then the Truth dies. But really, who would be surprised at that.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 22:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC) | Well if the leaked video is true, and it sure looks legitiment, then the Truth dies. But really, who would be surprised at that.[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 22:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Lol == | == Lol == | ||
I tried corpse-humping the Prophets dead body as a sign of my contempt - after a few, the character model pushed the body through the floor, intot he shallow basin underneath the activation pedastal - a fitting grave, don't you think? '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' | I tried corpse-humping the Prophets dead body as a sign of my contempt - after a few, the character model pushed the body through the floor, intot he shallow basin underneath the activation pedastal - a fitting grave, don't you think? '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 23:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Forerunner Crystal == | == Forerunner Crystal == | ||
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== quote == | == quote == | ||
I changed the quote to one more appropriate for him. Not a Halo 3 quote, perhaps, but it sums him up in one sentence. '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' | I changed the quote to one more appropriate for him. Not a Halo 3 quote, perhaps, but it sums him up in one sentence. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 01:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Image weirdness== | ==Image weirdness== | ||
http:// | http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Prophet_of_Truth#Activating_The_Ark | ||
If you look at the picture there, you can't even tell what's going on. Can we get a better picture there or something? Thanks! | If you look at the picture there, you can't even tell what's going on. Can we get a better picture there or something? Thanks! | ||
*First of all, the pics are fine. they are only better versions of the former pics. So dont dis the pics., Also in Trivia we should add that Truth wore Blue robes when he first became a Hierarch.[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|AllSpark Quest]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup> | *First of all, the pics are fine. they are only better versions of the former pics. So dont dis the pics., Also in Trivia we should add that Truth wore Blue robes when he first became a Hierarch.[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|AllSpark Quest]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:ProphetofRegret.jpg|30px]] 02:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Template Image == | == Template Image == | ||
Should we not update the template image as it is circa [[Halo 2]], even though [[Halo 3]] is already out? I think we should as he would look more modern.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] | Should we not update the template image as it is circa [[Halo 2]], even though [[Halo 3]] is already out? I think we should as he would look more modern.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] [[Image:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 13:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Truth's Age == | == Truth's Age == | ||
We know he played a role in the grunt rebellion, which ended in 2152 | We know he played a role in the grunt rebellion, which ended in 2152 | ||
http:// | http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/2152 | ||
So he is rather ancient isn't he? | So he is rather ancient isn't he? | ||
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Personally I consider that to be a stretch, but you ever know. I'm one of the people who believe that Forerunners had very long lifespans (1000 yrs), while San'Shyuum have the second-to long lifespan of about 800-900 years. And that's with the help of science. | Personally I consider that to be a stretch, but you ever know. I'm one of the people who believe that Forerunners had very long lifespans (1000 yrs), while San'Shyuum have the second-to long lifespan of about 800-900 years. And that's with the help of science. | ||
[[User:Sephirose|Sephirose]] 11:15, 29 November 2008 | [[User:Sephirose|Sephirose]] 11:15, 29 November 2008 | ||