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I am just wondering but did the name prisoner of charum hakkor come from Cryptum or was it just a speculative type name?[[#@lof@n1234]]-Forgive My English 20:33, 12 March 2011 (EST) | I am just wondering but did the name prisoner of charum hakkor come from Cryptum or was it just a speculative type name?[[#@lof@n1234]]-Forgive My English 20:33, 12 March 2011 (EST) | ||
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{{support}} name makes more sense[[#@lof@n1234]]-Forgive My English 22:17, 12 March 2011 (EST) | {{support}} name makes more sense[[#@lof@n1234]]-Forgive My English 22:17, 12 March 2011 (EST) | ||
{{Support}} - Since it's the only title that explicitly refers to the Precursor himself. "Prisoner of Charum Hakkor" sounds a little generic, imo. '''<span style="font-family: Square721 BT; color: MidnightBlue; font-size: 7.5pt;"> <big>/ /</big> [[User:Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: MidnightBlue;">STRYKER</span>]]''' <span style="color: SteelBlue;">[ [[User talk:Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">COM</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">LOG/M</span>]] | [[Special:Editcount/Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">LOG/S</span>]] | [[User:Stryker117/Adopt-a-User|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">AAU/HUM</span>]] ]</span></span> 20:36, 14 March 2011 (EDT) | {{Support}} - Since it's the only title that explicitly refers to the Precursor himself. "Prisoner of Charum Hakkor" sounds a little generic, imo. [[File:Noblelogo.png|30px]]'''<span style="font-family: Square721 BT; color: MidnightBlue; font-size: 7.5pt;"> <big>/ /</big> [[User:Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: MidnightBlue;">STRYKER</span>]]''' <span style="color: SteelBlue;">[ [[User talk:Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">COM</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">LOG/M</span>]] | [[Special:Editcount/Stryker117|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">LOG/S</span>]] | [[User:Stryker117/Adopt-a-User|<span class="nounderlinelinks" style="color: SteelBlue;">AAU/HUM</span>]] ]</span></span> 20:36, 14 March 2011 (EDT) | ||
==Merge with Gravemind?== | ==Merge with Gravemind?== | ||
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But I do agree with you both that a lot about the Gravemind is still very mysterious. But from what it appears to be, these two Graveminds seem to be the same, if I'm correct. Guest-23:01, 10 January 2012 (EST) | But I do agree with you both that a lot about the Gravemind is still very mysterious. But from what it appears to be, these two Graveminds seem to be the same, if I'm correct. Guest-23:01, 10 January 2012 (EST) | ||
*{{Support}} I think we should merge these pages, as now the Flood and Precursors are synonymous. Vegerot goes RAWR! | *{{Support}} I think we should merge these pages, as now the Flood and Precursors are synonymous. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:24, 14 January 2012 (EST) | ||
*{{Oppose}} - We still have another novel coming. Leave it for now.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | *{{Oppose}} - We still have another novel coming. Leave it for now.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | ||
::...a novel that's coming out in another year, what more do you need to know? It already clearly states that Precursors and Flood are used interchangeably. Now it's just a matter of merging the articles and what the new name is gonna be. Vegerot goes RAWR! | ::...a novel that's coming out in another year, what more do you need to know? It already clearly states that Precursors and Flood are used interchangeably. Now it's just a matter of merging the articles and what the new name is gonna be. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 01:19, 15 January 2012 (EST)! | ||
*{{Support}} - I agree with Vegerot. It's already been stated. It's not like Bear is going to change that in the next book[[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 01:35, 17 January 2012 (EST) | *{{Support}} - I agree with Vegerot. It's already been stated. It's not like Bear is going to change that in the next book[[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 01:35, 17 January 2012 (EST) | ||
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:<s>{{Oppose}} -He was referred to as the Timeless One in the [[Halo: Cryptum/Glossary|glossary]] that appeared on Halo Waypoint before the release of ''Cryptum''.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}</s> | :<s>{{Oppose}} -He was referred to as the Timeless One in the [[Halo: Cryptum/Glossary|glossary]] that appeared on Halo Waypoint before the release of ''Cryptum''.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}</s> | ||
:{{Support}} - have to agree with ArchedThunder. It's the name most often used to refer to it in Primordium, and is the closest to an "official" description of just what it is. "Timeless One" is at most a makeshift codename or nickname, like Primordial, but the latter has the advantage of being less colloquial and more recent. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:20, 10 March 2012 (EST) | :{{Support}} - have to agree with ArchedThunder. It's the name most often used to refer to it in Primordium, and is the closest to an "official" description of just what it is. "Timeless One" is at most a makeshift codename or nickname, like Primordial, but the latter has the advantage of being less colloquial and more recent. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:20, 10 March 2012 (EST) | ||
:{{Support}} - Given that ''Primordium'' is the latest source for this character, we should follow it. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[ | :{{Support}} - Given that ''Primordium'' is the latest source for this character, we should follow it. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 06:33, 10 March 2012 (EST) | ||
:{{Support}} -As per above.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | :{{Support}} -As per above.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | ||
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It's become apparent that the Primordial and the [[LF.Xx.3273 Flood Super Cell]] are one in the same. So it only makes sense that the articles are merged. [[User talk: ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] | It's become apparent that the Primordial and the [[LF.Xx.3273 Flood Super Cell]] are one in the same. So it only makes sense that the articles are merged. [[User talk: ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] | ||
:This article is talking about a specific Precursor character, not a type of Flood form.-- ''<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span> [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 16:11, 31 March 2012 (EDT) | :This article is talking about a specific Precursor character, not a type of Flood form.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 16:11, 31 March 2012 (EDT) | ||
::I agree with Spartacus. This article is clearly talking about a specific individual. The other clearly refers to a "cell type," not an individual. I'm removing the merge template.--[[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 17:02, 31 March 2012 (EDT) | ::I agree with Spartacus. This article is clearly talking about a specific individual. The other clearly refers to a "cell type," not an individual. I'm removing the merge template.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 17:02, 31 March 2012 (EDT) | ||
== Concept Art == | == Concept Art == | ||
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The source is just Halo Wikia, I have no idea whether these images were leaked or not. Anyhow, the point of creating this topic is that I'm a little unfamiliar with Halopedia's leaked content policies. I was just skeptical about posting them since Halo Wikia has these images already and we don't, so I assumed there was a reason they weren't posted. | The source is just Halo Wikia, I have no idea whether these images were leaked or not. Anyhow, the point of creating this topic is that I'm a little unfamiliar with Halopedia's leaked content policies. I was just skeptical about posting them since Halo Wikia has these images already and we don't, so I assumed there was a reason they weren't posted. | ||
Also, discussion about the actual images anyone? I think this was a little different from my perception of the Primordial. It seems too...''macho''. It almost reminds me of a really beefy grunt.--''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:46, 26 January 2013 (EST) | Also, discussion about the actual images anyone? I think this was a little different from my perception of the Primordial. It seems too...''macho''. It almost reminds me of a really beefy grunt.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:46, 26 January 2013 (EST) | ||
They aren't official concept art, I believe they were both done by fans. [[User:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] ([[User talk:ProphetofTruth|talk]]) 13:52, 26 January 2013 (EST) | They aren't official concept art, I believe they were both done by fans. [[User:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] ([[User talk:ProphetofTruth|talk]]) 13:52, 26 January 2013 (EST) | ||
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Since the Primordial is considered a Gravemind, should it be added to the "Flood" template? Or is it too early to categorize it as part of the Flood? <font size="3">[[User:Lautrec|<font color="#FFC200">Lautrec</font>]][[User talk:Lautrec|<font color="#FFC200"> of Carim</font>]]</font> <sup><font size="2">[[Special:Contributions/Lautrec|<font color="#FFC200">|contribs|</font>]]</font></sup> 03:56, 20 September 2016 (EDT) | Since the Primordial is considered a Gravemind, should it be added to the "Flood" template? Or is it too early to categorize it as part of the Flood? <font size="3">[[User:Lautrec|<font color="#FFC200">Lautrec</font>]][[User talk:Lautrec|<font color="#FFC200"> of Carim</font>]]</font> <sup><font size="2">[[Special:Contributions/Lautrec|<font color="#FFC200">|contribs|</font>]]</font></sup> 03:56, 20 September 2016 (EDT) | ||