Editing Talk:Portal at Voi

==Name==
Shouldn't the name be the Artifact or the Gate? The Building you find on the Ark that Cheif and Spark examine is the cartographer. Not the Artifact that creates the vortex. [[User:Prophet of Truth]]
:I'm just using the Halo 3 Strategy Guide for the name. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[w:c:halo:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] http://images.wikia.com/rainbowsix/images/7/73/GDI2.jpg <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 01:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:I've fixed the name and cleaned it up a bit. [[User:Binary2|Binary2]] 01:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The Bestiary referred to the portal device as the Schism Artifact. I think it should be renamed as such [[User talk:Ringworlder|Ringworlder]] 17:12, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

== Whoever wrote this is wrong. ==

The thing on Earth is just the portal generator leading to the Ark. The Cartographer is on the Ark, not within the structure on Earth. "The Ark" mission is where we travel to the Cartographer, and that mission takes place after we jump into the Ark's system and crash a pelican onto it. If this information on the page here is from the Halo 3 Strategy Guide, someone there made a huge slip up... [[User:MLG Cheehwawa]]


Indeed, There was no Shield wall on Earth, and the Elites did not aid in storming the structure. This should be cleaned up and renamed the Artifact or the Portal, and a the Cartographer houdl either be refrenced on the Installation 00 page or a new one should be made. [[User:Prophet of Truth]]

Yes I concure with the information above. The information on this page is almost comepletly incorrect and when i read it the first time after beating the game it made absolutly no sense to me. This article is in serious need of cleanup and should probly be seperated out and at elast parts of it moved and renamed. [[User:Rearete|Rearete]] 03:48, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, I've fixed it and cleaned it up a bit. [[User:Binary2|Binary2]] 01:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Disputed facts ==

The facts on this page have been disputed, and here are some reported problems with it:

:''The Article states that the portal device on earth is the Cartographer. Obviously the one who made this article hasn't played the game becuase they seem to be relying on what would appear to be incorrect information from the Guide. The Building that You infiltrate in the level "The Ark" is clearly stated to be the cartographer building. This Also says that MC attacked a shield wall. I've beaten the game and really don't remember one of those on earth.''

:''This page mixes up the cartographer building with the ark portal. Completely different buildings.''

The beauty of a wiki is that anyone can fix this article, so if something needs changing, ''you'' can help!

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(Sigh) For the third time, I've fixed the name and cleaned it up a bit. [[User:Binary2|Binary2]] 01:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Iris Glyph/Portal Relationship ==

If someone pays close enough attention to the appearance of the Portal from the picture currently posted, you will notice some similarities to it and the Iris glyph. If you notice, you'll see that the bottom two ends on the glyph bear a strong resemblance to that of the Portal's innerworkings underneath the covering Portal Generation Flaps. Do you think we might want to add the Iris glyph on this page?

== The Dreadnought's Appearance ==

In the trivia, it states that the Dreadnought wasn't present because of the possibility of it docking later, and that in the E3 Trailer it was starting to activate.  Is there any proof of this?  The very next note mentions that the portal was originally intended to be the Ark, so at the time of the creation of the trailer, it is possible that that was design philosophy.  It is also possible that they simply wanted to keep that little detail out of the trailer like they did in the 2007 trailer if I remember right.  So in short, I think that part should be removed since at the very least it is speculation. [[User:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 21:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

== Renaming? ==

In evolutions the humans refer to it as The Artifact... while bungie refers to it as the Ark Portal. The Forerunners refer to it as a Portal. It is a portal. While it is an artifact of a past race it is unlikely that it is the proper name. I think the name should be changed back. Thoughts?
[[User talk:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 18:05, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

:While I have to admit "The Artifact" is a bit of a vague title, Joseph Staten did in fact refer to the structure with that name. Also, the "portal" is what it generates, not what it is. So technically, it's a portal generator instead of a portal. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 18:19, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

::From memory, its referred to more as "Artefact" than "Portal," and the only mention of the latter I can remember, Cortana's message, is referring to what the artefact is generating rather than the artefact itself. I don't recall it ''ever'' being mentioned explicitly in the Terminals.-- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]]</b> - <i><b><u>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]</u></b></i> 23:09, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

:::It's mentioned a couple of times in the Terminals. '''Terminal 4:''' ''They're special - well worth the effort it took to build one final gateway, even at this late hour.'' '''Terminal 6:''' ''My work is done. The portal is inactive, and I've begun the burial measures. Soon there'll be nothing but sand and rock and normal ferrite signatures.'' But you're right, the structure itself is never referred to as the "portal".--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 06:24, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

I think it needs to be renamed. Because this could also be confused with the Artifact in the iLoveBees Axon clips. [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  16:03, 23 March 2011 (EDT)!



== Where is it? ==
I just typed in "The Artifact" on the search bar, looking for the Artifact mentioned in the iLoveBees Axon clips. So can someone provide me a link to where THAT Artifact is? [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  16:05, 23 March 2011 (EDT)!!!!!!!
:[[Deep-space artifact]]. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== You sure this is a *subspace* portal? ==

It seems more like a wormhole to me. You can't get out of the milky way that fast through subspace. Besides, all the subspace rips we have seen so far have a ''white'' center. Not a black one. In addition, a wormhole can be entered from any direction, just like in the cutscene. A subspace rip can be entered from only one direction. --[[User:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''''X'''''</span><span style="color:#FF7518">'''''Super'''''</span><span style="color:#CE0000">'''''Gamer'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#303030">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup> 17:19, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

:It only has an entrance, and exiting the thing looks the same as when dropping out of slipspace. It could be that it was designed by the Forerunners to propel any ships travelling through to high velocities. But even then they were in slipspace for almost a month before arriving at Installation 04.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 17:38, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

::It has two entrances, as the Arbiter managed to go back through the portal to Earth. --[[User:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''''X'''''</span><span style="color:#FF7518">'''''Super'''''</span><span style="color:#CE0000">'''''Gamer'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#303030">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup> 17:47, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

:::That's another portal generator. If you watch the introduction to "The Ark", you can see that they're not coming out of such a portal, and the portal device is nowhere near their exit location.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 17:51, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

::::You are right. My way just seemed to make more sense at first. Nothing prevents Forerunner subspace technology from being extremely advanced. --[[User:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''''X'''''</span><span style="color:#FF7518">'''''Super'''''</span><span style="color:#CE0000">'''''Gamer'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#303030">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup> 18:46, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

==Eleventh Hour reports==
Should we mention anything about the UNSC ''Rubicon'''s expidition to Installation 00? I dont see any other way for a UNSC ship to reach it without the portal.--[[User talk:Matt98|Matt98]] 13:09, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
::With slipspace drives improved by Huragok and incorporating Forerunner technology it would be possible to make the trip without a portal. It would definitely take a long time, months even, but it would still be possible. Although the portal remains the most probable option, we can't add this to the article unless we have some sort of official source stating that's how they got there.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 13:36, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

==Let's deal with this==
A long time ago, a Jugusy fellow tagged this article with the rename template, saying it should be renamed "Portal at Voi". I too agree the page should be renamed, but I suggest that it should be called the "Portal at New Mombasa" or just "Portal at Mombasa". Why? Because the portal is clearly under New and Old Mombasa, not under Voi, which is mostly intact. Miranda Keyes also refers to the artifact as being in "the ruins of New Mombasa", not the ruins of Voi. End speech. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:56, 24 December 2012 (EST)
:I put "Portal at Voi" in the tag because that's the main title given to the structure in ''The Essential Visual Guide''. In addition, ''From the Office of Dr. William Arthur Iqbal'' repeatedly calls it the "Excession at Voi". To be precise, most of the structure is located between the two cities, even though parts of it stretch underneath New Mombasa (though you're right in that the bulk of the disk would've been underneath the slums that make up Old Mombasa). As for Keyes' comment, her mentioning New Mombasa is most likely due to the simple fact most people are familiar with the name and can form a connection to ''Halo 2'' rather than being a specific statement about geography. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:04, 26 December 2012 (EST)