Editing Talk:Pod infector

== Height of the infection form ==

I don't know but 88 centimeters or 2.9 feet is VERY high! I would say they are maximum 50 centimeters because 88 centimeters is just to high, that's only 12 centimeters to one meter! it's too high. can someone look for the right height of the Infection form?



Eh, I agree. In-game they seem only about a foot high, maybe smaller [[User talk:Tricklet|Tricklet]] 18:02, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

== Grunts/Jackals not compatible ==

There's a lot of stuff here saying that Grunts and Jackals cannot be infected. Just because it doesn't happen in game doesn't mean that they can't be; its even mentioned somewhere that Grunts CAN be infected, they just don't become combat forms. The only species mentioned to have insufficient calcium for the Flood are the Lekgolo.
:It says in one of the books (I think) that the Jackals' low calcium (as low bone density) makes them unsuitable for Flood hosts. The Lekgolo are not able to be infected by Flood because they are a community of many organisms. Still, by the quality of the Notes sections on this site, this will likely never change. -Guest
::Ah, that makes sense. I'm still pretty sure that it mentions Lekgolo as having insufficient calcium reserves as well, but that's just extra defense I suppose! The thing I thought I seemed to have read is that Jackals and Grunts are unsuitable combat forms, so go straight carrier forms, or at least, go through the combat form stage very very briefly. [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 13:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Grunts and jackals are relitively weak compared to humans and elites, this would explain why infection forms seem to resist infecting them. Imagine a small, slow combat form with little melee power that is very weak.([[User talk:Drone232|Drone232]] 13:24, October 30, 2009 (UTC))

== Comparison between Versions ==

Just wondering, it seems to me that the Flood Infection Forms in [[Halo: Combat Evolved|H:CE]] have much better textures than its successors (H2 and H3). Just try to compare between the three and you will notice a huge difference in texture...File:Animated Sig.gif|120px]] - <sup>[[User Talk:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF">H107</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:Subtank|<font color="#0090FF">SubtleTank</font>]]</sub> 16:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

:I agree. Halo: CE to Halo 2 is a definite devolvement. I think in Halo 3 it is ''technically'' more advanced but Halo: Combat Evolved has the best looking so far.--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 06:54, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


I'm not sure if its in the article, but it seems that only it Halo: CE the infection forms with latch onto you for a few seconds and hurt you. They make munching sounds :D --[[User talk:Tricklet|Tricklet]] 18:05, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

==Height==
I don't know who added that the Infection Form is 88cm (2.9 ft), but I think we all agree that it's absolute crap. That's almost ''three feet tall''! Just look at it compared to the Chief and you'll know what I mean. I'm removing it for now. If anyone has any objections, speak now, or forever hold your peace. -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:02, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

==Death to host?==
Does the Flood cause instant death as stated in the article? I thought it cuts the victim's control off of their body but doesn't kill them. - [[User talk:Brownie556|Brownie556]] 21:55, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

:Well, I think you're right. I believe the host as some level of thought even after infection. (In fact, in Halo: CE, the host ''had'' to be alive)--[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 06:50, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
You have to remember, Flood Infection Forms need some of the vital organs of the host to survive...--[[User talk:Tricklet|Tricklet]] 19:53, March 17, 2010 (UTC)



: Private Jenkins wasn't killed, but that was because the Infection Form was weakened by its long period of hibernation. On the other hand, Captain Keyes wasn't instantly killed, either. The Flood form that took over his body sifted through his memories, and Keyes had to keep conjuring up memories so that it wouldn't learn the location of Earth. These may be circumstances that are unmatched by most infected individuals, exclusive to weakened Infection Forms that cannot properly take over a host, or a host that the Flood deems important enough to keep alive (based on the knowledge that the individual retains). Or perhaps not. I suppose it is possible that the fate of Captain Keyes could be matched by all who are infected---the ability to retain semi-conscious thought in a "gauzy haze", but unable to control the body or receive external stimuli.

: There seem to be discrepancies on how the Flood actually works between games. In Halo: Combat Evolved, I got the impression that the mutation occurs over a longer period of time (which makes more sense to me anyway, simply because the observable phenotypic effects of genetic mutations take time to appear. From the processes of transcription to translation, billions of proteins would have to be produced in order to make new structures, such as tentacles). Also, in the novel Halo: The Flood, it is mentioned that the internal organs of combat forms are rotted to the point of liquification. Such a high level of necrosis would take days to achieve. On the Level ''Two Betrayals,'' at some point the Master Chief comes across a group of Infection Forms latched to the bodies of an Elite and a Grunt. I had always assumed that they were preparing to infect them. But then again, the crazed AWOL Marine in the level ''343 Guilty Spark'' said that he had escaped by "playing dead" and that "[the Flood] took the live ones." Based on that statement, I would assume that the Flood only makes use of living sentient beings. So, I suppose the question becomes, "''Does the Flood<u> </u><u>infect both dead and living</u> hosts, or does the Flood <u>infect only living</u> hosts, and <u>consume dead</u> hosts?''" --[[User talk:Secret Service 88|Secret Service 88]] 18:45, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the flood infect any hosts of suitable biomass, regardless if they are dead or not. The reason the AWOL marine survived by playing dead was because the live soldiers were deemed the highest threat in the area which would require immediate neutralization. After all threats were elimanated, the flood would most liely go back and infect any dead hosts with sufficent biomass, while consuming hosts who couldn't be turned into combat forms. [[User talk:Munch munch|Munch munch]] 07:20, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

==Balloon?==
Where the heck is people seeing a balloon in this form? [[Special:Contributions/189.124.209.133|189.124.209.133]] 15:38, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

:Too late to use the talk page now. You might have wanted to do this the FIRST time your edit got reverted. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:#404040; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:#404040; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 15:39, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Do not stall.[[Special:Contributions/189.124.209.133|189.124.209.133]] 22:21, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

:It pops like a balloon, it looks like a creepy balloon bug, and its light like a balloon. Read ''[[Halo: The Flood]]'' and listen to the admins.  [[User:Kougermasters|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Kougermasters'''</span>]] [[User talk:Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:38, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

It pops because it is too damn frail. It looks more a squid, and its light because it's small...
That darn Halo The Flood never gets in Brazil.
[[Special:Contributions/189.124.209.133|189.124.209.133]] 23:16, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

== good killing methods ==

it says not use grenades. however a way to do it is to plasma grenade and then run as fast as you can[[User talk:Mikeybot55|Mikeybot55]] 15:36, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

== Other forms ==

since these are the only ones who can infect how can the others exist {{Unsigned|Butthead4}}
:I think it is explained in more in depth on the [[Flood]] article.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}

== Anniversary ==

This has been bugging me for some time now and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet. Are the Infection form models used in Anniversary the same as the ones used in Halo 3? --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 21:08, 31 May 2012 (EDT)

:Nope. Close inspection of the Flood models in <s>Reach</s> Anniversary tells me they've been redesigned to some degree. CE Infection forms are larger. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 10:50, 1 June 2012 (EDT)

::Flood models in ''Reach''? :P
::Judging from gameplay videos in the Library level, I can say that they recycled the ones from Halo 3.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  11:13, 1 June 2012 (EDT)

:True, but reskinned to some degree. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 13:49, 1 June 2012 (EDT)

== Pherus ? ==

We know the Flood works with FSCs, but these cells needs to be implanted into an organism to corrupt it. We know the first specie to be infected by the Flood (decayed Precursor genetic material) were the Pherus. It is said that the infected Pherus grew agressive, ugly and gained some sort of tentacles. This seems strangely accurate to the infection form. The Flood would retain its first form if it proved to be a good medium through another host, and these forms, now the base of the FSCs infection chain, would be studied by the Forerunners. Are the infection forms infected Pherus ? Did I missed something ? [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 17:53, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
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	We know the Flood works with FSCs, but these cells needs to be implanted into an organism to corrupt it. We know the first specie to be infected by the Flood (decayed Precursor genetic material) were the Pherus. It is said that the infected Pherus grew agressive, ugly and gained some sort of tentacles. This seems strangely accurate to the infection form. The Flood would retain its first form if it proved to be a good medium through another host, and these forms, now the base of the FSCs infection chain, would be studied by the Forerunners. Are the infection forms infected Pherus ? Did I missed something ? [[User:Lunaramethyst\|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst\|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/\|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 17:53, 6 June 2015 (EDT)		We know the Flood works with FSCs, but these cells needs to be implanted into an organism to corrupt it. We know the first specie to be infected by the Flood (decayed Precursor genetic material) were the Pherus. It is said that the infected Pherus grew agressive, ugly and gained some sort of tentacles. This seems strangely accurate to the infection form. The Flood would retain its first form if it proved to be a good medium through another host, and these forms, now the base of the FSCs infection chain, would be studied by the Forerunners. Are the infection forms infected Pherus ? Did I missed something ? [[User:Lunaramethyst\|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst\|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/\|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 17:53, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
	:The Flood grows new infection forms in carrier forms and the growth pods in their hives, so they're definitely just a form of "pure" Flood rather than infected non-Flood organisms. It's not out of the question that the Flood originally got the idea from the infected Pheru, though so far there's been nothing to explicitly imply this. --[[User:Jugus\|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus\|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jugus\|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:43, 7 June 2015 (EDT)