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Difference between Fuel Rod Gun and Cannon? I DOUBT IT!--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] 05:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC) | Difference between Fuel Rod Gun and Cannon? I DOUBT IT!--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] 05:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
:There is a difference, the [[Fuel Rod Gun]] is similar to a [[Plasma Pistol]], it charges up and has a semi-homing effect, and also has 100% ammo when full. It also has an energy core, so, when the Fuel Rod Gun reaches 0% ammo, it cannot be replaced unless a new one is picked up. It is not reloadable, however, the Fuel Rod Cannon is reloadable and does not home. It does not have an energy core and does not charge up. Oh, and the Fuel Rod Gun can only be seen on Halo Pc. | :There is a difference, the [[Fuel Rod Gun]] is similar to a [[Plasma Pistol]], it charges up and has a semi-homing effect, and also has 100% ammo when full. It also has an energy core, so, when the Fuel Rod Gun reaches 0% ammo, it cannot be replaced unless a new one is picked up. It is not reloadable, however, the [[Fuel Rod Cannon]] is reloadable and does not home. It does not have an energy core and does not charge up. Oh, and the Fuel Rod Gun can only be seen on Halo Pc. | ||
wait the FRG has the five or so projectiles coming out of the top of the gun and the FRC has the battery like clip so does anyone else think like this or is it just me | wait the FRG has the five or so projectiles coming out of the top of the gun and the FRC has the battery like clip so does anyone else think like this or is it just me | ||
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there is no real difference save that Bungie named the PC one gun apparently. They are exactly the same, save one uses an energy core. However, the gun system itself is the same. | there is no real difference save that Bungie named the PC one gun apparently. They are exactly the same, save one uses an energy core. However, the gun system itself is the same. | ||
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Swapped the main image with a more accurate one. The previous image was the version in halo 2 when the game was still in testing...I guess. -<b>[[user:Spartan781|<font color="#D3D3D3">Sp</font><font color="#A9A9A9">art</font><font color="#808080">an7</font><font color="#000000">81</font>]]</b> | Swapped the main image with a more accurate one. The previous image was the version in halo 2 when the game was still in testing...I guess. -<b>[[user:Spartan781|<font color="#D3D3D3">Sp</font><font color="#A9A9A9">art</font><font color="#808080">an7</font><font color="#000000">81</font>]]</b> [[Image:Kill_Frenzy_Medal.gif|30px]] [[User talk:Spartan781|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 16 June 2007 | ||
== About the new name... == | == About the new name... == | ||
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==What, Fuel Rod Cannons in 24 years!?== | ==What, Fuel Rod Cannons in 24 years!?== | ||
In this [http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/content.aspx?link=h3fuelrod article] lukems says "This weapon has changed very little since it was first encountered in 2031". It is most likely a typo i think he meant 2531. -- | In this [http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/content.aspx?link=h3fuelrod article] lukems says "This weapon has changed very little since it was first encountered in 2031". It is most likely a typo i think he meant 2531. --[[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|20px]][[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<font color=black>My Contribs</font>]]</sub>[[Image:Private first class.jpg|30px]][[Image:GDI.jpg|30px]] | ||
:Probably. But that means there were FRCs at Harvest! -[[User:76.235.215.125|76.235.215.125]] 21:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC) | :Probably. But that means there were FRCs at Harvest! -[[User:76.235.215.125|76.235.215.125]] 21:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Yeah, and also it does tell us that both the Fuel Rod Gun and Cannon are from the same design but has been updated with new models just like how we do here on Earth. So it's correct that there are different types of FRGs and Cs.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | Yeah, and also it does tell us that both the Fuel Rod Gun and Cannon are from the same design but has been updated with new models just like how we do here on Earth. So it's correct that there are different types of FRGs and Cs.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
'''Update''': yea its a typo the [http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/content.aspx?link=h3fuelrod article] now correctly says "first encountered in '''2531'''". -- | '''Update''': yea its a typo the [http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/content.aspx?link=h3fuelrod article] now correctly says "first encountered in '''2531'''". --[[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|20px]][[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<font color=black>My Contribs</font>]]</sub>[[Image:Private first class.jpg|30px]][[Image:GDI.jpg|30px]] 8 September 2007 | ||
== Merge with fuel rod gun == | == Merge with fuel rod gun == | ||
its been confirmed that they are the same weapon. get over it [[User:Ralok|Ralok]] 21:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC) | its been confirmed that they are the same weapon. get over it [[User:Ralok|Ralok]] 21:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Slow-motion realization == | == Slow-motion realization == | ||
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=== Votes for merger === | === Votes for merger === | ||
==== For ==== | ==== For ==== | ||
As per above.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] | As per above.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[Image:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 09:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
The PC version Fuel Rod weapon is a bit of a red herring. It is completely different in terms of appearance from the armament the grunts have during the missions in Halo: Combat Evolved. The weapon they are armed with is the same as the T33 AAW, so the differences make very little sense. However I feel that as they are effectively the same weapon, so even if the tactics for use have changed, they should be merged. The fact that it is noteably different can be mentioned ina subsection of the article. As far as I am aware, I thought that it was Gearbox's 'artistic license'that brought about the Fuel Rod weapon in Halo PC? [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 11:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC) | The PC version Fuel Rod weapon is a bit of a red herring. It is completely different in terms of appearance from the armament the grunts have during the missions in Halo: Combat Evolved. The weapon they are armed with is the same as the T33 AAW, so the differences make very little sense. However I feel that as they are effectively the same weapon, so even if the tactics for use have changed, they should be merged. The fact that it is noteably different can be mentioned ina subsection of the article. As far as I am aware, I thought that it was Gearbox's 'artistic license'that brought about the Fuel Rod weapon in Halo PC? [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 11:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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THIS IS JUST CONFUSING! They are heavily diferent weapons by traits and usage and even recieve different pick-up names! its a lot like the M6D pistol and the M6C magnum, significantly diferent by traits and usage and called diferent things. | THIS IS JUST CONFUSING! They are heavily diferent weapons by traits and usage and even recieve different pick-up names! its a lot like the M6D pistol and the M6C magnum, significantly diferent by traits and usage and called diferent things. | ||
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#No, there really is a difference!((unsigned|Master chief Petty Officer}} | #No, there really is a difference!((unsigned|Master chief Petty Officer}} | ||
:There too different in function.--[[User:A Grunts Savior|The Demonic Idiot]] 07:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | :There too different in function.--[[User:A Grunts Savior|The Demonic Idiot]] 07:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Actually, it's just that the "Gun" is battery operated, firing sound is different, damage is different, and bolts have a more arc-like trajectory. They are, in fact, the same weapon. Many weapons, such as the Plasma Rifle or Plasma Sword have different sounds, damage and stuff from the Halo 2 and 3 counterparts. Trust me, they are as different in function as this Fuel Rod Gun/Cannon thingy.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] | ::Actually, it's just that the "Gun" is battery operated, firing sound is different, damage is different, and bolts have a more arc-like trajectory. They are, in fact, the same weapon. Many weapons, such as the Plasma Rifle or Plasma Sword have different sounds, damage and stuff from the Halo 2 and 3 counterparts. Trust me, they are as different in function as this Fuel Rod Gun/Cannon thingy.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[Image:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 04:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
#They are two completely different weapons. Some differences are: the "Gun" is an indirect-fire energy MORTAR but the "Cannon" is a direct-fire energy weapon, the "Gun" is battery powered and the "Cannon" is ammo powered, the "Gun" has 13 rounds and the "Cannon" has 30, the "Gun" has a "dead-man switch" but the "Cannon" doesn't . The only similarity's are that the ammo and battery's are green and that they are shoulder-mounted weapons. [[User:Delta-269|Delta-269]] 22:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | #They are two completely different weapons. Some differences are: the "Gun" is an indirect-fire energy MORTAR but the "Cannon" is a direct-fire energy weapon, the "Gun" is battery powered and the "Cannon" is ammo powered, the "Gun" has 13 rounds and the "Cannon" has 30, the "Gun" has a "dead-man switch" but the "Cannon" doesn't . The only similarity's are that the ammo and battery's are green and that they are shoulder-mounted weapons. [[User:Delta-269|Delta-269]] 22:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
#I agree with Delta-269. This gun has had so many several changes that it has resurged as a "new" weapon. Just take a look to the "new" Halo 3's Rocket Laucher. It's the same thing, but no one says that it must merge. This isn't the same thing...and they want merge it! No way. [[User:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkBlue">'''Dan'''</font><font color="Blue">'''iel'''</font><font color="LightBlue">''' 019'''</font>]] | #I agree with Delta-269. This gun has had so many several changes that it has resurged as a "new" weapon. Just take a look to the "new" Halo 3's Rocket Laucher. It's the same thing, but no one says that it must merge. This isn't the same thing...and they want merge it! No way. [[User:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkBlue">'''Dan'''</font><font color="Blue">'''iel'''</font><font color="LightBlue">''' 019'''</font>]] [[Image:Before.JPG|35px]] <sup>[[User talk:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkGray">'''My Talk'''</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Daniel 019|<font color="Silver">'''My Work'''</font>]]</sub> | ||
#As per above. [[User:Spartan 112|Spartan 112]] 21:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC) | #As per above. [[User:Spartan 112|Spartan 112]] 21:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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#yeah, same weapon type, but different model, the fuel rod gun from halo 1 and the fuel rod gun from halo 2 and 3 | #yeah, same weapon type, but different model, the fuel rod gun from halo 1 and the fuel rod gun from halo 2 and 3 | ||
deserve their own seperate pages...the two assault rifles ..MA5B and MA5C have different pages? So why not the fuel rod? | deserve their own seperate pages...the two assault rifles ..MA5B and MA5C have different pages? So why not the fuel rod? | ||
== Clips/Magazines == | == Clips/Magazines == | ||
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Maiar: What you're referring to is what we call a "stripper clip". I forgot the actual name for it, but it makes sure the rounds go into the magazine quickly and correctly. An actual clip is something like the M1 Garand rifle uses - it is loaded into the rifle, and serves the role of a magazine. When all rounds are used, it is ejected automatically. <span style="color:#4C8844">'''Smoke''' <sup>[[User:Smoke.|My page]]</sup><sub>[[User_Talk:Smoke.|My talk]]</sub></span> 20:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC) | Maiar: What you're referring to is what we call a "stripper clip". I forgot the actual name for it, but it makes sure the rounds go into the magazine quickly and correctly. An actual clip is something like the M1 Garand rifle uses - it is loaded into the rifle, and serves the role of a magazine. When all rounds are used, it is ejected automatically. <span style="color:#4C8844">'''Smoke''' <sup>[[User:Smoke.|My page]]</sup><sub>[[User_Talk:Smoke.|My talk]]</sub></span> 20:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Not spawning == | == Not spawning == | ||
Why doesn't the FRG spawn on any map if you use a gametype you made? [[ | Why doesn't the FRG spawn on any map if you use a gametype you made? [[T3rr0r]] | ||
Is this some kind of bug in the game? [[User:SQ G T3rr0R|SQ G T3rr0R]] 17:43, 17 September 2008 (UTC) | Is this some kind of bug in the game? [[User:SQ G T3rr0R|SQ G T3rr0R]] 17:43, 17 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Conclusion: <u>The fuel rod gun's failsafe is identical to one of the bolts in force, appearance, and effect. But fuel rods and guns explode with the same force as a fragmentation grenade. The comment should be integrated.</u> [[User talk:An elite '92|Jora 'Mantak]] 04:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC) | Conclusion: <u>The fuel rod gun's failsafe is identical to one of the bolts in force, appearance, and effect. But fuel rods and guns explode with the same force as a fragmentation grenade. The comment should be integrated.</u> [[User talk:An elite '92|Jora 'Mantak]] 04:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC) | ||