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| With the history and equipment of the ODSTs having been extensively elaborated on by now, I'm still more than a little bugged about the absense of many references to the ODST character in Halo 2. As different as they were in appearance to the now traditional standard, one can't help but wonder why they've taken the shaft so quickly. Allow me to elaborate. A common misconception is that the ODSTs in Halo 2 wore an early version of the ODST Battle Armor in H3, H3: ODST, and the various Legend episodes / comics / promotional materials. Some consider it retconned or noncanon since H3: ODST takes place at the same time as H2. Some don't even know there was a difference. I'm here to set that record straight.
| | In Halo: The Flood it mentions the ODST's with having an eye piece on their helmets, this sounds the same as the regular marines in Halo: Combat Evolved. It confuses me, can someone tell me why this is? User:Joshua 029 |
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| The ODSTs in Halo 2 wore identical fatigues as the normal marines at the time. It was cloth, not a vaccuum suit. These fatigues are black and white, but other than that, the seams, the pockets, the camo pattern, and the protective elbow pads are exactly the same. This is a huge difference from the vaccuum protective suit of normal ODSTs. There are many other similarities between regular marines and Helljumpers in H2 too. The shoulder plates are similar. The ODST helmet is a modified version of the normal helmet with only a visor and chinguard added to encapsulate the head. Differences include gloves and the huge shin guards used by those ODSTs. These H2 versions also wear a bulky ballistic vest different from the standard marine chestpiece. So now that we have disproved the rumor that this armor is vaccuum-rated, it can be inferred that with all the similarities, this armor could also likely be allowed to be worn by normal marines and may even have olve-drab colored variations. In fact, Gretchen (Dutch's wife), in the ODST comics, has a green H2 ODST helmet and H2 marine chestpiece in a flashback frame.
| | Dunno?[[User:142.59.133.15|142.59.133.15]] 05:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC) |
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| So why wouldn't thse ODSTs utilize vaccuum suits after hot-dropping in to combat via HEV? Much like the normally-armored ODSTs in Combat Evolved, it's unknown. It is interesting to note that all of the ODSTs in H2 may have came from In Amber Clad though. Maybe that's all they were supplied with?
| | The reason is sometime between Halo 1 and 2, the amour is changed into [[body suit]]s.--[[Image:Hunter large.jpg|35px]] [[User:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">never ending-summer]]</font><sup>[[User talk:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">My personal COM chanel</font>]]</sup> 07:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC) |
| At any rate, I hope to start a discussion here about possibly adding a little more information about this variant of the ODST BDU. It's certainly not the same and fills a completely different role and function than the vaccuum-rated body armor suit. --[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 20:12, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| :The Art of Halo 3 supports the assertion that Bungie simply retconned everything from H:CE and H2, and decided to make sure everything in the Halo Universe has a meaning to their existence, hence why there's massive ''"absense of many references to the ODST character in Halo 2"''. In other words, they want to make everything in the Halo Universe to have a purpose and not purely for gameplay/eye-candy sake like they did in H2. That is also why Bungie had to scrap the old ODST BBA in Halo 2 and update it visually in H3 and technically in H3: ODST. Supporting this statement is also the concept art of the H3's ODSTs and the evolution of their BBA (a concept art of H2's ODST BBA that eventually evolved into the BBA that we see today in H3) that can be seen in the Art of Halo 3 (Page 8).- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 20:42, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| I have a theory... In halo reach it says that the air assault helmet is an ''improvement to the ODST helmet''. I believe that the ODST's in halo 2 were simply wearing this expiramental armour with minimal body protection. The halo 3 era armour is most likely the armour that had always been used where as the halo 2 armour is a expirimental air assault prototype. As for the halo combat evolved ODST's, in the anniversary trailer in the orening cinematic marines seem to be wearing ODST chestplates but with normal marine helmets. This has led me to believe that the original halo graphics were wrong and that they were always wearing the ODST armour. Thank you for taking the time to read my post.--[[User talk:Sierra259|Sierra259]] 15:15, 7 November 2011 (EST)
| | Is it just the 105th that are called "Helljumpers"? I was under the impression (although I'd have to head to a library and check out the earlier books) that the term "Helljumpers" applied to all ODSTs. |
| | :"Helljumpers" is the name of all ODSTs, but the 105th Division is the only one that we have read about in the books. -[[User:ED|ED]] 02:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC) |
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| ==ODSTs in Gameplay== | | == Mental instability == |
| This is something unclear: are the ODSTs in gameplay any different from the marines, graphics excluded? Should this then be mentioned in the Marines (Gameplay) page or should they have their own? Just asking.
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| [[User talk:PotatoBird|PotatoBird]] 20:15, September 1, 2010 (UTC) | | In one of the books (I forget) it mentions that ODSTs are slightly wacko as a result of being dropped from space in a sealed coffin to the surface of the planet. I think it's in the Fall of Reach - I'll dig out my copy sometime and add a bit to the article.[[User:Andrew-147|Andrew-147]] 21:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC) |
| :this needs to be looked at. the article does not specify whether they, in the second and third games, are re-skinned marines. {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 12:52, 4 December 2010 (EST) | | :Yeah, it just said a person would have to be crazy to volunteer to do that. -[[User:ED|ED]] 02:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC) |
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| ==ODST Recruitment== | | ==HellJumpers== |
| The article says that ODSTs are recruited from the special forces branches of all the military services. But the only other special forces units I can find are Spartan. What other branches are there? [[User talk:Iceman117|Iceman117]] 21:35, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Presumable the Army, Air Force, Navy and regular Marine Corps maintain their own special forces. Then there are the special forces of the various human countries and colonies, including civilian special forces. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:31, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
| | HellJumpers are applied to all ODSTS because since the HEVS have a thin shell the heat of the friction it's almost 'like hell'. |
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| ==ORION==
| | [[User:142.59.133.15|142.59.133.15]] 05:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC) |
| Why was the trivia about ODSTs being based on the ORION project removed? It came straight from Halo: Reach Datapad # 11. Whats the reasoning, it's something not many folks are likely to know and relates to this article very directly. [[User talk:SpartanSeries2|SpartanSeries2]] 04:10, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| Yeah, I put it in there and someone has deleted it. The ODST is based off of the ORION project and this information is in the Halo: Reach game which is part of the actual story. [[User talk:Bugkill|Bugkill]] 16:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
| | I don't really think that's what "Helljumpers" mean. -[[User:Blemo|Blemo]] 04:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| :It was deleted because it's already stated in the "Origins" section of the article. No need for another mention of the same thing. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC) | | :I'm with Blemo on this one, it states in the books the nickname was coined do to their motto "Feet first into hell". -Ergna- |
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| == "First extra-terrestrial deployment of Marines" ==
| | It does actually say in "The Flood" that part of the reason they're called Helljumpers is because of the extreme heat when they drop in their HEV's. However in Fall of Reach it also says it's related to their motto, which is related to the HEV pods in which they drop, which heats up like hell...you're both right -- Rokrin |
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| The article suggests that the Marine deployment at Argyre Planitia was an orbital drop operation and connected to the inception of the ODSTs, as opposed to the UNSC Marine doctrine as a whole. I checked the timeline entry this supposition is based on, just to be sure. The timeline page on Xbox.com isn't up anymore, but luckily [http://halostory.bungie.org/halostory.timeline.html HBO has a copy].
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| | is it safe to say that the ODST are the future equivilent of the british S.A.S just with better stuff. [[User:Kami-Sama]] |
| | :will someone answer my question please [[User:Kami-Sama]] |
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| Note the wording "extra-terrestrial"; ''"any object or being beyond (extra-) the planet Earth (terrestrial)"''.
| | Actually, they're based on the US Navy SEALS. but they're probably up there with the best, like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service_of_New_Zealand| NZSAS] =D. -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 19:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| The way I understand this, it's referring to the first time marines were deployed outside Earth. There had been fighting on the Jovian Moons, but marines weren't necessarily involved; they could've just been local UN security forces. Alternatively, it may refer to the first time they were deployed outside a planet's atmosphere, but nowhere does it say it was the first time marines were dropped onto a planet in small pods. It could've been just dropship deployments, so the whole event has more to do with UNSC Marines in general than the origins of the ODSTs.
| | They seem more like the 101st Airbone (Not Spec Ops) to me...--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] 03:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| Not only that, but the article also suggests the existence of a UN Marine Corps separate from the UNSC. The whole organization's existence is questionable at best; See Talk:United Nations Navy. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:25, 2 June 2011 (EDT)
| | If you ask me, their a combination of US Army Rangers, US Marines, AND US Navy SEALS. '''([[User:CommanderTony|CommanderTony]])''' |
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| ==I think that...==
| | Peh, if you ask me there not based on anything, thier role is to plumit to earth it metal box's sound fimiler?, plus the SAS has a wide veriety of roles most of which kept secret --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] [[Image:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Black">Chat</span></b>]] or [[Special:Contributions/Climax_Viod|<b><span style="color: Silver">My Contributions </span></b>]]</sup> |
| ...this page should be moved to "Orbital Drop Shock Trooper'''s'''", since we're describing the organization, not an individual soldier. Note the opening paragraph as well. However, it seems I do not have the power to move this page. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:02, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
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| :Yeah, makes more sense that way.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus,</span>]]'' ''[[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Halopedia Administrator</span>]]'' <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">Talk</font>]]'''</sup> 17:11, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
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| Ah, it seems I cannot change it because of the name already exists as a redirect. Let me switch them. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:54, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
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| :I can delete the redirect.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus,</span>]]'' ''[[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Halopedia Administrator</span>]]'' <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">Talk</font>]]'''</sup> 17:56, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
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| You beat me to the punch! >:( [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:59, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
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| ==Absence in Halo 4==
| | they are described in the books as being an elite force, reminiscent of the Navy SEALS and Marine Corps of the US today. but don't discount the SAS either, because they are also the elite, and are also trained to deal with almost every kind of environment or scenario, like the ODST's and SEALS. [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 23:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC) |
| I haven't seen a bit of an ODST during Halo 4 campaign. Can someone confirm that they totally absent from both ''Infinity'' and Ivanoff? If confirmed, I think we have to mention that in the "Trivia" section. <strong>[[User:Lunaramethyst|<span style="font:23px Segoe script; color:darkgreen;">Λ</span>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:Lunaramethyst|<span style="color:#4C997C">Want to speak ?</span>]]</sup> 08:23, 13 November 2012 (EST)
| | :If this is true then we also can't leave out Delta Force either, since they're US SpecOps team of sorts, and apparently basically the same as the SAS -- Rokrin |
| :There aren't any ODST's aboard ''Infinity'' that we know of, or have seen. The Marines aboard the ship have only been infantry, tankers, and Force Recon and those aboard ''Ivanoff'' were ONI Marines (black armor). {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
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| :I was a little disappointed, ODSTs have been in every Halo game since CE (while only technically in CE, not visually), hopefully they'll make a comeback in Halo 5. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 15:01, 13 November 2012 (EST)
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| ::Or we could possibly be seeing the end of the ODST's. They were the baddest of the bad except for the Spartans, whose only major drawback was that there were so few of them. Now that the UNSC is producing Spartans in significant numbers, ODST's may no longer be necessary. Perhaps in the post-war UNSC, the best-of-the-best don't become ODST's, they become Spartans. As ODST Gage Yevgenny once said, "I'd seen the future of warfare, and I wasn't it."--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 16:56, 13 November 2012 (EST) | |
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| :As I said [http://www.halopedia.org/Talk:Halo_4/Archive_4#ODST here], they might of not been necessary to deploy in conjunction with Spartans. '''-{{User|Killjax}}'''
| | *whatever they are, I think speak for most people when I say THEY RAWK HARD AND KICK ASS! [[User:Leonidas-300|Leonidas-300]] 04:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC) |
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| ::They don't appear in the game because they would diminish the SPARTAN-IVs' grand introduction. According to the UNSC ''Infinity'' briefing packet, the ship has hundreds of SOEIV bays and a complement of over 8,000 Marines. Some of them must be ODSTs. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 23:40, 13 November 2012 (EST)
| | ODSTs are not special operation forces like SAS or Seals that work on individual to squad level but special forces like Rangers or elite forces like the 101st that work in squad to platoon size force. |
| ::Well, it is possible that the reason that the ODST division of the UNSC Marine Corps is not in Halo 4, is that they have been "replaced" by the S-IV program. Also, it's possible that the ODSTS themselves aren't gone, that the UNSC turned them into the first generation of Spartan IVs,would the UNSC really waste the time and resources on training regular Marine units to be S-IVs when they have an elite special ops force that would requre minimum training.This may actually be the next evolution of the ODSTs, which would explain the Recruit helmets extreme similarity to the the helmet of the ODST BDU; it's similar and would help them adapt to being an S-IV. [[User:S-074|S-074]]
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| == 3rd Helljumper Platoon ==
| | GUYS GUYS GUYS you're all wrong, they are based off the Marine force recon which do HALO drops (no pun intended) and are trained very similar to Navy seals and SAS but they way they do things are close to the Recon Marines - USMCR3c0n |
| As it is called the "Helljumper Platoon", it should be categorized as part of the 105th. In the commentary for "The Babysitter", Frank O'Connor states that only ODSTs from the 105th are called Helljumpers, and other Divisions would have different names.[[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 13:20, 27 April 2014 (EDT)
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| :Thanks for the heads up. I went an extra step and renamed the unit's article; the way they're referred to in the game makes it sound like "Third Helljumper Platoon" is a distinct, permanent unit rather than one of many with the same designation. On a related note, I was thinking just the other day how much I'd like for at least a few of the non-Helljumper divisions to be identified, if only for fluff. We know there are at least four divisions, as Lord Hood mentions the Spartans having more combined kills than "''any three'' divisions of ODSTs" in ''First Strike''. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 14:35, 27 April 2014 (EDT)
| | Well actually there know way to say exactly what they are based upon as there are hundreds of organization that resemble them because in the real world spec ops units tend to be based off of each other. It also go's down to national pride. Every one seems to want the ODSTs to be modeled after there spec ops unit or there fave. |
| | Honestly I believe they are closer to Fallschirmjagers or GSG9. |
| | There both known for being extremely efficient and hardcore airborne special forces (only one of the things GSG9 can do.) and the Fallschirmjagers were there first to be airborne and quickly built up a reputation for taking the entire mashino line. |
| | Thats my two cents argue if you want but I am very confidant in my opinion.--[[User:GhillieSuit41|GhillieSuit41]] 16:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC) |
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| I'm calling attention to two issues here. First, we've long assumed that every ODST battalion seen or mentioned to date belongs to the 105th. As I [[Talk:Orbital Drop Shock Troopers#3rd Helljumper Platoon|pointed out]] a few months ago, there are at least four ODST divisions. Battalions aren't uniquely numbered so each regiment would have its own 1st BN, 2nd BN, 3rd BN, and so on; granted, the ODST may be an exception to the rule. Anyway, only a handful of units have been explicitly identified as 105th elements: 3rd Platoon, 7th Battalion ([[Delta Halo (level)#Helljumpers|of course]]), 11th Battalion, and Buck's squad. The [[Order of battle (Viery, Reach)|other units at Viery]] were probably Helljumpers since Buck fought in the 11th ODST. As for other known units, who can say?
| | Does the ODST armor provide the abbality to breath in space? In the level Cario Station you can see dead ODSTs near space. I just want to know. |
| | ([[User:Darth Gree|'''Spartan 104''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''Raido Spartan 104''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''What Binsetti Could of Done''']] |
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| Second, the wiki has always titled ODST units with the same format: "''n''<sup>th</sup> Shock Troops Division/Battalion". Problem B is that I don't recall this format ever being used in official media, with the possible exception of the ''Encyclopedia'' - my copy is inaccessible. If it turns out that the aforementioned naming scheme is not used in canon, I suggest retitling the 105th and its ''confirmed'' battalions like so: "105th ODST Division" and "''n''<sup>th</sup> Battalion (105th ODST)". Battalions that may not be Helljumpers could make do without a division number in the title. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 11:16, 23 June 2014 (EDT)
| | :It looks contained, so maybe. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 00:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| :I agree on both points. I don't think the "Shock Troops (Unit)" naming scheme has ever been used in canon (apparently not in the ''Encyclopedia'' either, glancing through the ODST section). It looks to be another one of those relics that has stuck because no one has questioned it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 03:02, 2 July 2014 (EDT) | | ::Maybe that's ''why'' they were dead? -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 00:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| ::Actually, the 7th Shock Troops Battalion moniker [[:File:7thODSTunitpatch.PNG|is canon]]. EDIT: Unless, of course, it's meant to be read "7th Battalion, Shock Troops" or "Shock Troops, 7th Battalion". The first possibility seems more likely. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 11:55, 13 October 2014 (EDT)
| | No, actually, everytime you head out into space, you will encounter ODSTs and enemies, like Elite Rangers. Maybe they killed them, because '''ODSTs are not dumb enough to walk into space knowing their armor cannot support them.''' -[[Image:Spartan with Sniper Rifle and Shotgun.jpg|50px]] '''[[User:Blemo|<font color=black>Blemo</font>]]''' |
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| :::According to the Bungie writeup on the back of the Halo 2 Joyride ODST figure, the Helljumpers are from "NSWG2-ODST Team 5". That would be Team 5 of Naval Special Warfare Group 2. (This is the same writeup that gave us the first usage of SOEIV.) Another version of the ODST cardback from Joyride states "105th ODST Division". The Fall of Reach, p65 refers to "'Helljumpers'—the infamous 105th." On page 6 however, there's a reference to the "105th Drop Jet Platoon". The 105th Helljumpers have been around "centuries" prior to the Spartan-IIs according to issue 3 of Helljumper comic. Linking the 105th with 'Helljumper also occurs in The Cole Protocol, p48. So there's some ambiguity as to whether it's a division or platoon. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 12:52, 13 October 2014 (EDT)
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| == Personnel category == | | I really think that ODSTs are really smarter than that. -[[Image:Spartan with Sniper Rifle and Shotgun.jpg|50px]] '''[[User:Blemo|<font color=black>Blemo</font>]]''' |
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| Okay, I'm making a category for ODST personnel (as it is easier to have a category rather than keep a long list updated). Before I make it, does "Orbital Drop Shock Trooper personnel" or "Orbital Drop Shock Troopers personnel" sound better/correct. I can never decide which one is correct. Just asking for input so I don't create a large category and then have to make a new one just because of one letter. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 10:12, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
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| :Wouldn't "Orbital Drop Shock Troopers" suffice? Granted, most of the personnel categories have the "personnel" in there, but then again the Spartan ones (and several others) don't. I'd be fine with "Orbital Drop Shock Troopers". --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:24, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
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| ::Yeah, I was thinking about that, but I figured that "Orbital Drop Shock Troopers" might be used as a category to encompass the organization as a whole in the future. But there is no reason to really expect that to happen right now, so "Orbital Drop Shock Troopers" should be fine for now. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 10:45, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
| | 'Cause someone doesn't get that it isn't supposed to be a marine... dude, when it keeps getting changed back, '''you're doin' somethin' wrong!''' Just like on [[MJOLNIR Armor]], where it kept getting change to that MC is wearing the "new" Mark VI... no, it's possibly Mark VII!!! '''[[w:c:halo:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">g</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[w:c:halo:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">π</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 08:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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| ==Branch???== | | == Neill Blomkamp's video == |
| While looking through many articles, i became a little bit lost. I don't get it, to whome do the ODSTs belong to? Are they part of UNSC Marine Corps or UNSC Navy's Naval Special Warfare Command? It's 2 different branches of UNSC Armed Forces, but info in the articles is suggesting they belong to eigher of them. --[[User:Necrontir|<font color="Black"><b>Necrontir</b></font>]] 11:52, 2 May 2016
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| :Naval Special Warfare Command is a division of the UNSC Naval Command, which is largely made of up the Navy with token representation from the Marine Corps. So technically, the Marines have similar authority to the Navy within Naval Special Warfare Command (Johnson was a non-ODST operator within the division, I believe). It is my understanding that NavCom is essentially the UNSC's equivalent of the United States' Department of the Navy, which is made up of the Marines and Navy. In the UNSC, the Marines are mostly organized under UniCom, though like I said, they have some authority within NavCom. Also forgot to mention that the ODSTs are further organized under Naval Special Weapons, which UniCom has more authority over for whatever reason. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 11:57, 2 May 2016 (EDT)
| | Are the soldiers seen in that short made by Blomkamp supposed to be ODSTs?--[[User:Darth Oblivion|Darth Oblivion]] 20:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| ::Yeah, well, thats a little bit enlightening. Thanks. --[[User:Necrontir|<font color="Black"><b>Necrontir</b></font>]] 12:06, 2 May 2016
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| :::Heh, military chains of command can be a daunting prospect to unravel sometimes. Suffice to say, ODSTs are members of the Marine Corps, which operates under the authority of the Navy. NavSpecWar is part of the Navy, but has elements from the Navy, ODSTs, and "regular" Marines special warfare units, and is the Navy's contribution to UniCom. UniCom oversees ground deployments across most branches, which includes ODSTs despite being launched from orbit. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 09:53, 3 May 2016 (EDT)
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| == Halo Combat Evolved Appearance == | | == Halo: Last Standing ODST == |
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| Where exactly do they show up in Halo CE? | | Hi, I managed to find a high-res ODST picture from the 405th site. I am not claim responsibility but do ask them if you can use it for the Halopedia site. Here you go: [http://405th.com/forums/uploads/1191798021/gallery_4075_103_150154.jpg ODSTs from the Live Action] |
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| | Actually, nevermind, I found them at: [http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/combat_pt1_behindthescenes/ Halo.Bungie.Org] |
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| | Yeah, we've already got those ^^ --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 12:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| | ok, so we're studying the Mexican War in rotc today. During the Battle of Chapultepec, many Marine NCO's and officers were killed because they were fighting on the front lines. In their honor, NCO's and officers were then required to wear a red stripe on their pant legs, a "bloodstripe". as many have pointed out, it may be the sergeants who wear the red patch. [[User:Leonidas-300|Leonidas-300]] 05:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| | Also this is a good assumption this is incorrect the red and white are however ranks but the white means officers and the red means enlisted-USMCR3c0n |
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| | Got a question. Do the ODSTs always wear the ODST bodysuits in combat, or do they also wear standard [[Marine]] outfits? --[[User:UNSC Trooper|<font color="darkblue">UNSC Trooper</font>]] [[Image:unsctrooper_small.jpg|14px]] <sup>[[User talk:UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/UNSC Trooper|<font color="green">My Work</font>]]</sub> 15:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| | Most of the time they wear the black bodysuits but if I remember correctly, in "halo: the flood" they wore the standard marine uniforms. Hope that clears it up. If I made a mistake let me know. [[User:Leonidas-300|Leonidas-300]] 12:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| | They do sometimes wear the standard ballistic armor issued to the regular marines, In HALO: combat evolved 1 of the main characters STG. Pete stacker was an ODST he's that what STG you always see running around and he's also the ODST in Halo2 at Mombasa, also corporal Lockler another ODST in HALO: combat evolved one of the few that survived the onslaught of the flood is an ODST and he is also in HALO: First Strike both of these men are wearing the standard ballistics armor-USMCR3c0n |
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| | == The character on the armor == |
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| | That character is hun4, which means mixed. It is used in the word for bastard, but the other two definitions are a bit of a stretch. |
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| | Not true, It means Bad ass and or bastard, not mixed and being the ODST with their mindset I take it as meaning Badass rather than bastard-USMCR3c0n |
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| | why is there a picture of the covenant fleet on this page and the UNSC page?[[User:Sgt. Fenix|Sgt. Fenix]] 04:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC) |
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| | == i love odst's == |
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| | i love ODSTs their the best of the marine corps... |
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| | == ODST spartan armor... == |
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| | Wouldent you agree that bungie should have made ODST sholders and body armor for coustom charters... |
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| | I do but one might go so far as to asume they MIGHT relise it it later patches... Who knows, however I am content with the ODST helm-USMCR3c0n |
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| | == Relations with SPARTANS == |
| | The article says that because the Chief beat up two ODST's, that that is why the relationship between the two are uneasy. But I recall the reason being that SPARTANS got more fame and glory for doing dangerous missions that ODSTs could do, but without the augmentations. They didn't like that they were lab projects, while ODSTs were tough on their own merits. I am not entirely sure, since this was in the The FLood, but I really don't think that two soldiers being beaten up is what caused tight relations.[[User:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 04:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| | It wasn't that he beat up 2 he killed to and injured 2 others as a teenager therefore they were mad that even in all their awesome badassness that they got their asses kicked by a 16-17 year old kid-USMCR3c0n |
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| | == badasses == |
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| | odst's are more bad ass than spartans (some times) |
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| | the trivia section says this reason is why the are forgotten.where did this come from, is it an opinion, or somebody trying to be funny?(it has no references) [[User:SpecOps ODST|<font color="blue">'''SpecOps ODST'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:SpecOps ODST|<font color="black">com link</font>]]</sup> 02:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| | == My Image == |
| | My image was taken off the page even though it was a very accurate representation of an ODST using the armor for matchmaking here it is. Why was it removed? [[Image:Capercorn.jpg|I belong on the article man.]] |
| | :Likely because it's really just the helmet we are concerned with, at most. And the ODST helmet has its own page, noting that there is a helmet is enough for this particular article and doesn't really merit a picture to be associated with it. Or it could be because someone didn't like the fact that there was the CQB chest and shoulder armor in use. *Shrug* [[User:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 01:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC) |
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| | ==Halo 2 ODSTs on Halo 3== |
| | ive never seen this. the only ODSTs on High Charity are the "new" ones. i believe that that trivia should be removed unless photographic evidence is aquired.[[User:SpecOps ODST|<font color="blue">'''SpecOps ODST'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:SpecOps ODST|<font color="black">com link</font>]]</sup> |
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| | Isn't a 3 month total protection for an edit war a bit excessive? [[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/Command Staff|<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">General</span>]] [[UserWiki:Simon_rjh|<span style="color: #0000FF; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">simon</span>]] [[User talk:Simon rjh|<span style="color: #FF0000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">r</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<span style="color: #008000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">j</span>]]<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=simon%20rjh <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">h</span>]</span> 19:43, 27 April 2008 (UTC) |
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| | Why is the page protected in the first place? [[User:Sgt. Fenix|Sgt. Fenix]] 13:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |