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I think that Battles aren't supposed to be called "Second/Third/Etc Battle of Wherever" if they took place in different wars, as shown [[Wikipedia: Battle_of_Thermopylae_(disambiguation)|here]]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:15, 8 November 2012 (EST) | I think that Battles aren't supposed to be called "Second/Third/Etc Battle of Wherever" if they took place in different wars, as shown [[Wikipedia: Battle_of_Thermopylae_(disambiguation)|here]]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:15, 8 November 2012 (EST) | ||
:I agree, this a different conflict. "Battle of Earth (Human-Promethean War)", or "Battle of Earth (2557)".[[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 15:26, 8 November 2012 (EST) | :I agree, this a different conflict. "Battle of Earth (Human-Promethean War)", or "Battle of Earth (2557)".[[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 15:26, 8 November 2012 (EST) | ||
The latter is what Wikipedia uses, and is easier to link. If there are no objections then we can move this page. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:33, 8 November 2012 (EST) | The latter is what Wikipedia uses, and is easier to link. If there are no objections then we can move this page. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:33, 8 November 2012 (EST) | ||
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:Maybe we should consider some of the options first. I came to wonder if this can even be called a "Battle of Earth". It's nowhere near the scale of most battles and the Didact's ship was the only place where there was any fighting. Given the fact the battle was mostly a one-man raid, with some backup from the fleet, maybe it would be more apt to classify this as a raid? "Raid on the Didact's ship"? "Raid on the Composer"? Or, possibly, "Skirmish over Earth?" Any ideas are welcome though.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:35, 8 November 2012 (EST) | :Maybe we should consider some of the options first. I came to wonder if this can even be called a "Battle of Earth". It's nowhere near the scale of most battles and the Didact's ship was the only place where there was any fighting. Given the fact the battle was mostly a one-man raid, with some backup from the fleet, maybe it would be more apt to classify this as a raid? "Raid on the Didact's ship"? "Raid on the Composer"? Or, possibly, "Skirmish over Earth?" Any ideas are welcome though.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:35, 8 November 2012 (EST) | ||
:Good point, I like the "raid" idea, "Raid on Didact's ship" seems like the best option. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 15:45, 8 November 2012 (EST) | :Good point, I like the "raid" idea, "Raid on Didact's ship" seems like the best option. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 15:45, 8 November 2012 (EST) | ||
Well, the Chief was raiding, but the Didact was the one to attack first, specifically Earth, and he was engaging with UNSC ships and orbital defense offscreen. Since John and Cortana's raid wasn't the only aspect of the battle, then possibly Skirmish might be the better name. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:05, 8 November 2012 (EST) | Well, the Chief was raiding, but the Didact was the one to attack first, specifically Earth, and he was engaging with UNSC ships and orbital defense offscreen. Since John and Cortana's raid wasn't the only aspect of the battle, then possibly Skirmish might be the better name. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:05, 8 November 2012 (EST) | ||
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:::Other wikis use the war in the () not the year. Example: [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Coruscant_(Clone_Wars) Battle of Coruscant (Clone Wars)].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:48, 8 November 2012 (EST) | :::Other wikis use the war in the () not the year. Example: [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Coruscant_(Clone_Wars) Battle of Coruscant (Clone Wars)].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:48, 8 November 2012 (EST) | ||
::::Good for them! :) Using HPW in the title is too long and overly descriptive. If the Promies or Remnant attacks Earth again during this war, it will be renamed "First Battle of Earth" and so on for subsequent articles. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | ::::Good for them! :) Using HPW in the title is too long and overly descriptive. If the Promies or Remnant attacks Earth again during this war, it will be renamed "First Battle of Earth" and so on for subsequent articles. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | ||
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It said on the article that this event took place during the month of July, but i never remember seeing snow in canada especially in Québec and south Ontario. If you look carefully on the picture snow are clearly visible in those place [[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="LimeGreen">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="RoyalBlue">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color="Salmon">0</font>]] | It said on the article that this event took place during the month of July, but i never remember seeing snow in canada especially in Québec and south Ontario. If you look carefully on the picture snow are clearly visible in those place [[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="LimeGreen">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="RoyalBlue">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color="Salmon">0</font>]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/A Company|<font color="Gold">0</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Chief frank 001|<font color="GreenYellow">1</font>]]</sup> 13:27, 9 November 2012 (EST) | ||
:Errrr... global warming! Yeah, global warming... [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:15, 9 November 2012 (EST) | :Errrr... global warming! Yeah, global warming... [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:15, 9 November 2012 (EST) | ||
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In the article's infobox it lists the Didact with the KIA symbol next to his name. However, we do not know for sure if the Didact really died in the battle; it wouldn't have been impossible for him to escape, and the post-credits cutscene depicts the Didact giving a monologue regarding the battle and, iirc, announced his intention to return. We just don't know for sure whether or not he actually died, and since we have a lack of evidence, I think it's safe to remove the KIA symbol until further canon confirms or denies this. [[Special:Contributions/76.105.110.9|76.105.110.9]] 13:41, 10 November 2012 (EST) | In the article's infobox it lists the Didact with the KIA symbol next to his name. However, we do not know for sure if the Didact really died in the battle; it wouldn't have been impossible for him to escape, and the post-credits cutscene depicts the Didact giving a monologue regarding the battle and, iirc, announced his intention to return. We just don't know for sure whether or not he actually died, and since we have a lack of evidence, I think it's safe to remove the KIA symbol until further canon confirms or denies this. [[Special:Contributions/76.105.110.9|76.105.110.9]] 13:41, 10 November 2012 (EST) | ||
:We can only surmise the status of a person from what we've seen or what we've read. All points at the time of ''MIDNIGHT'' shows that the Didact fell to his death aboard ''Mantle's Approach''. The time frame in the epilogue is also determinable. Didact's monologue may suggest that he is speaking before the Ecumene council or another legislative or judicial body, under a tribunal for his actions against our ancient ancestors at Charum Hakkor. ''Silentium'' may partially take place in a contemporary setting and give us the whereabouts of John's arch nemesis, but more than likely, we'll have to wait until ''Halo 5''. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | :We can only surmise the status of a person from what we've seen or what we've read. All points at the time of ''MIDNIGHT'' shows that the Didact fell to his death aboard ''Mantle's Approach''. The time frame in the epilogue is also determinable. Didact's monologue may suggest that he is speaking before the Ecumene council or another legislative or judicial body, under a tribunal for his actions against our ancient ancestors at Charum Hakkor. ''Silentium'' may partially take place in a contemporary setting and give us the whereabouts of John's arch nemesis, but more than likely, we'll have to wait until ''Halo 5''. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | ||
The guy took a grenade to the chest and several shots from a hard light rifle ''unarmored''. I wouldn't be surprised if he lived. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:35, 10 November 2012 (EST) | The guy took a grenade to the chest and several shots from a hard light rifle ''unarmored''. I wouldn't be surprised if he lived. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:35, 10 November 2012 (EST) | ||
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:::Ah. Well, I took it to mean a chemical solution. Perhaps we could leave the article's description ambiguous, because the fired weapons don't seem to behave like MACs. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:41, 12 November 2012 (EST) | :::Ah. Well, I took it to mean a chemical solution. Perhaps we could leave the article's description ambiguous, because the fired weapons don't seem to behave like MACs. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:41, 12 November 2012 (EST) | ||
::::Agreed. Change it to something akin to "main/fore/bow battery," etc. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | ::::Agreed. Change it to something akin to "main/fore/bow battery," etc. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | ||