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Damn that's powerful. Hooah. ([[User:152.65.64.27|152.65.64.27]] 01:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)) | Damn that's powerful. Hooah. ([[User:152.65.64.27|152.65.64.27]] 01:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)) | ||
Shouldn't someone do the math? y my off the top of my head calculations, its peak output should be somthing like27 gigatons, 9x30 megaton warheadsx100 = 2187000000 ton or 2187megaton or 22gigaton aproximatly | Shouldn't someone do the math? y my off the top of my head calculations, its peak output should be somthing like27 gigatons, 9x30 megaton warheadsx100 = 2187000000 ton or 2187megaton or 22gigaton aproximatly [[Image:ODST1 u.jpg|40px]][[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="SteelBlue">Chief frank 001]]</font><sup>[[user talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="#A9A9A9">Bla Bla Bla</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color=Teal>'''What I've done'''</font>]]</sub>[[Image:Marines HALO wars.jpg|40px]] 13:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
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*Why are there 2 articles on the NOVA bomb? 204.6.91.236 19:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | *Why are there 2 articles on the NOVA bomb? 204.6.91.236 19:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
**Because someone made a mistake. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 21:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | **Because someone made a mistake. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 21:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
*'''Merge''' put this information on the page about the NOVA bomb as that is the NOVA's full name - [[ | *'''Merge''' put this information on the page about the NOVA bomb as that is the NOVA's full name - [[Ares.117]] 11:23, 3 Feburary 2007 | ||
*'''Merge'''-[[User: Spartan 1138]] 23:23, 5 Feburary 2007 | *'''Merge'''-[[User: Spartan 1138]] 23:23, 5 Feburary 2007 | ||
*Agreeing with the '''Merge''' [[User:TheObviousOne|TheObviousOne]] 23:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC) | *Agreeing with the '''Merge''' [[User:TheObviousOne|TheObviousOne]] 23:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
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We have nine warheads. If we assume them to be 100 megaton each (thats powerful for a thermonucear charge), and that due to the construction of the bomb the yield increases hundrefold, and than do some maths. | We have nine warheads. If we assume them to be 100 megaton each (thats powerful for a thermonucear charge), and that due to the construction of the bomb the yield increases hundrefold, and than do some maths. | ||
9x100 megaton x 100= 90 000 megaton = 90 gigaton in TNT quivalent | 9x100 megaton x 100= 90 000 megaton = 90 gigaton in TNT quivalent | ||
Hiroshima explosion (15 kilotonn) was about 63 terajoules (6,3x10E13 joules) powerful. NOVA is 6 000 000 times more powerful, so we have 138 000 000 terajoules power, or 1,38x10E20 joules. | Hiroshima explosion (15 kilotonn) was about 63 terajoules (6,3x10E13 joules) powerful. NOVA is 6 000 000 times more powerful, so we have 138 000 000 terajoules power, or 1,38x10E20 joules. | ||
Burn a continent - possible, Exterminatus ? NO... | Burn a continent - possible, Exterminatus ? NO... | ||
PS - Contact of a "dino-killer" asteroid with Earth caused 1 000 gigatonn explosion. But well - Earth is still intact... | PS - Contact of a "dino-killer" asteroid with Earth caused 1 000 gigatonn explosion. But well - Earth is still intact... | ||
Well the NOVA bomb does what it names implies it supposedly does what a star does in a nova or a supernova totally incinerating the entire planet to the extent of wiping it away. | Well the NOVA bomb does what it names implies it supposedly does what a star does in a nova or a supernova totally incinerating the entire planet to the extent of wiping it away. [[User:SPARTAN-089|SPARTAN-089]] 19:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Well put, Spartan 089. If the Nova bomb is really just a pile of thermonuclear warheads, then it would indeed be illogical to describe its effects as anywhere near "planet killer", at least in the same way that we consider, say, the Death Star a planet killer. | Well put, Spartan 089. If the Nova bomb is really just a pile of thermonuclear warheads, then it would indeed be illogical to describe its effects as anywhere near "planet killer", at least in the same way that we consider, say, the Death Star a planet killer. | ||
What sort of puzzles me is that an orbital MAC (like Cairo) has a yield of about 5,306 gigatons, many times stronger than the Nova bomb (based on your calculations), yet the Nova is treated like an amazing super weapon. | What sort of puzzles me is that an orbital MAC (like Cairo) has a yield of about 5,306 gigatons, many times stronger than the Nova bomb (based on your calculations), yet the Nova is treated like an amazing super weapon. | ||
Perhaps it's very small, so they see it as a sabotage sort of thing? Like, so small that a retreating fleet wouldn't notice it, until it gets detonated and destroys the face of a planet. That seems like a good possibility to me. | Perhaps it's very small, so they see it as a sabotage sort of thing? Like, so small that a retreating fleet wouldn't notice it, until it gets detonated and destroys the face of a planet. That seems like a good possibility to me. | ||
@Spartan089, It can't create a supernova since that doesn't make sense. A supernova occurs when a very expanded star collapses on itself and the immense gravitational energy is converted to light and kinetic energy. If the bomb was massive enough to cause a supernova on a serious scale, then it would have its own huge gravitational field. | @Spartan089, It can't create a supernova since that doesn't make sense. A supernova occurs when a very expanded star collapses on itself and the immense gravitational energy is converted to light and kinetic energy. If the bomb was massive enough to cause a supernova on a serious scale, then it would have its own huge gravitational field. | ||
This doesn't make sense. Fission warheads never reach anything approaching megaton power because of limitation on fission physics. Basically, the bomb blows itself up before all that much fissionable material can release its energy. [[Special:Contributions/24.167.203.225|24.167.203.225]] 20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC) | This doesn't make sense. Fission warheads never reach anything approaching megaton power because of limitation on fission physics. Basically, the bomb blows itself up before all that much fissionable material can release its energy. [[Special:Contributions/24.167.203.225|24.167.203.225]] 20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
== One powerful bomb here. == | == One powerful bomb here. == | ||
This is a really powerful bomb. I wouldn't want anything like that anywhere near earth. | This is a really powerful bomb. I wouldn't want anything like that anywhere near earth. | ||
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Trust me, you wouldn't wanted to be on any planet in the crosshairs of the Pillar of Autumn. | Trust me, you wouldn't wanted to be on any planet in the crosshairs of the Pillar of Autumn. | ||
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So why is the Nova bomb so special? I, as I have already suggested, think it's more of an espionage weapon... | So why is the Nova bomb so special? I, as I have already suggested, think it's more of an espionage weapon... | ||
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It's special because the calculations on the MAC are flawed. The 5 TT of energy came from the assumption the Super MAC fired at 40% the speed of light when "point four tenths" isn't 40% the speed of light, it's 4% the speed of light. This is supported by the fact that a Super MAC missed the Covenant sniper ship that was around ~100,000 kilometers away from it, when we know it takes some time for the ship to be able to move after firing the weapon and that Covenant ships have been still when MAC rounds are fired at them. | It's special because the calculations on the MAC are flawed. The 5 TT of energy came from the assumption the Super MAC fired at 40% the speed of light when "point four tenths" isn't 40% the speed of light, it's 4% the speed of light. This is supported by the fact that a Super MAC missed the Covenant sniper ship that was around ~100,000 kilometers away from it, when we know it takes some time for the ship to be able to move after firing the weapon and that Covenant ships have been still when MAC rounds are fired at them. | ||
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And the NOVA probably uses specialized nukes just for its task, not HAVOKs. | And the NOVA probably uses specialized nukes just for its task, not HAVOKs. | ||
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I'm not sure how valid the calculator is (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html) but in order to get a blast big enough to hit both a small moon and at least a quarter of a planet, the figures point out a tonnage of at least 1,000,000,000 megatons. that's assumeing that Malhiem (qouted as "Tiny") is similar to the Martian moon Deimos and is in orbit at approximatly 20,000 kilometers. This would truely be a planet killer, and rightly deserves the name. | I'm not sure how valid the calculator is (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html) but in order to get a blast big enough to hit both a small moon and at least a quarter of a planet, the figures point out a tonnage of at least 1,000,000,000 megatons. that's assumeing that Malhiem (qouted as "Tiny") is similar to the Martian moon Deimos and is in orbit at approximatly 20,000 kilometers. This would truely be a planet killer, and rightly deserves the name. | ||
==Capitalization== | ==Capitalization== | ||
Is there a source on the name of NOVA? According to my book, Whitcomb calls it the Nova, as in a traditional proper noun. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC) | Is there a source on the name of NOVA? According to my book, Whitcomb calls it the Nova, as in a traditional proper noun. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
:I think the name is inscribed on the bomb itself as capitalised NOVA. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_HOT_GATES 'Morhek]</font></i></b> 20:04, 28 December 2008 (UTC) | :I think the name is inscribed on the bomb itself as capitalised NOVA. --<b>[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_HOT_GATES 'Morhek]</font></i></b> 20:04, 28 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Oh, yes. Thank you. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 00:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC) | ::Oh, yes. Thank you. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 00:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Assuming that it uses 9 HAVOK Warheads and each of them have a range of 30-90 Megatons. Now I'll assume that each warhead has a rating of 90 Megatons. Times that by 9 and it's 810 Megatons. Times that by 100 and it's 81 000 Megatons or 81 Gigatons. Does that sound right to you.--[[User talk:L55|L55]] 12:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC) | Assuming that it uses 9 HAVOK Warheads and each of them have a range of 30-90 Megatons. Now I'll assume that each warhead has a rating of 90 Megatons. Times that by 9 and it's 810 Megatons. Times that by 100 and it's 81 000 Megatons or 81 Gigatons. Does that sound right to you.--[[User talk:L55|L55]] 12:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
I made a scetch of the NOVA-explosion in Ghots of Onyx, and thought i could put it up here - as an artist's impression or something. I hope it's okay, I'm quite a n00b with all this wikia stuff, and I don't really know if there's a rule against it, or something. | |||
I made a scetch of the NOVA-explosion in Ghots of Onyx, and thought | |||
Cheers, Nordic Spartan | Cheers, Nordic Spartan | ||