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According to the journal from the limited and legendary editions of Reach Halsey is Miranda's mother. someone who has the information should add it to the article. <span style="font-family: Halo3 ; Font-size: 135%; color:#800002;">FATGUNN</span> 23:39, September 14, 2010 (UTC) | According to the journal from the limited and legendary editions of Reach Halsey is Miranda's mother. someone who has the information should add it to the article. <span style="font-family: Halo3 ; Font-size: 135%; color:#800002;">FATGUNN</span> 23:39, September 14, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Yea I took care of it. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 16:54, September 15, 2010 (UTC) | Yea I took care of it. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 16:54, September 15, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Why would Miranda's surname be Halsey? If Jacob was her father, then she should have been born as Miranda Keyes. | Why would Miranda's surname be Halsey? If Jacob was her father, then she should have been born as Miranda Keyes. {{Arby116Sig}} | ||
Her parents did not marry, and she lived with her mother. Its been stated that her relationship with her father was never great. [[User talk:VARGR|VARGR]] 13:06, September 19, 2010 (UTC) | Her parents did not marry, and she lived with her mother. Its been stated that her relationship with her father was never great. [[User talk:VARGR|VARGR]] 13:06, September 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:Her surname would still not be Halsey. There is insufficient proof that says so. All we know is that she had her name legally changed but we are never given her birth name. Her birth name could be anything. It could even be Miranda Curtana...- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:12, September 19, 2010 (UTC) | :Her surname would still not be Halsey. There is insufficient proof that says so. All we know is that she had her name legally changed but we are never given her birth name. Her birth name could be anything. It could even be Miranda Curtana...- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:12, September 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Sorry if I'm behind but.... That's why Miranda looks so damn similar to Cortana!? EM | Sorry if I'm behind but.... That's why Miranda looks so damn similar to Cortana!? {{EM Sig}} | ||
:: Continueing SubTank disscusion: If Keyes wasn't around when Halsey gave birth to Miranda, then Dr. halsey would have been the one to name her, including her last name. Keyes was probably on duty at the time anyway. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:purple">'''Que'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:red">'''Sera'''</span>]], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:orange">'''Sera'''</span>]] 02:51, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | :: Continueing SubTank disscusion: If Keyes wasn't around when Halsey gave birth to Miranda, then Dr. halsey would have been the one to name her, including her last name. Keyes was probably on duty at the time anyway. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:purple">'''Que'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:red">'''Sera'''</span>]], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:orange">'''Sera'''</span>]] 02:51, September 24, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Just to be clear, when any child is born to an unwed mother, the child takes his or her mother's last name by default, so Miranda would have been born Miranda Halsey. Like Miranda did, the child can obviously get the name changed later, but taking the mother's last name is the norm unless the mother is married (in which case the child automatically takes the father's last name). Also, there are subtle details in Halsey's journal that are far more definitive in demonstrating that Miranda is indeed her daughter than what has been discussed so far - just got to pay more attention to some of the scribbles Halsey writes on the margins of her journal. [[User talk:Lt garry|Lt garry]] 05:46, October 4, 2010 (UTC) | Just to be clear, when any child is born to an unwed mother, the child takes his or her mother's last name by default, so Miranda would have been born Miranda Halsey. Like Miranda did, the child can obviously get the name changed later, but taking the mother's last name is the norm unless the mother is married (in which case the child automatically takes the father's last name). Also, there are subtle details in Halsey's journal that are far more definitive in demonstrating that Miranda is indeed her daughter than what has been discussed so far - just got to pay more attention to some of the scribbles Halsey writes on the margins of her journal. [[User talk:Lt garry|Lt garry]] 05:46, October 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
you guys know that this is 500 years in the future and naming conventions at this time probably don't all follow modern english naming conventions. therefore your arguments are invalid.-- | you guys know that this is 500 years in the future and naming conventions at this time probably don't all follow modern english naming conventions. therefore your arguments are invalid.--[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 11:21, 16 November 2010 (EST) | ||
== Miranda Keyes and Crow's Nest == | == Miranda Keyes and Crow's Nest == | ||
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==Date of Birth== | ==Date of Birth== | ||
I understand that the new Essential Visual Guide lists Miranda Keyes date of birth as '''February 28th, 2525''', however Dr. Halsey's journal suggests that the rendezvous which led to her conception took place in '''November 2524'''. If that's the case it's one hell of a short pregnancy (3 1/2 months). I suppose it's possible that her tryst with Keyes took place 6 months before she got around to writing about it, but the language and writing style of the entry seem to imply it was a recent development. Finally, Halsey writes on '''March 9, 2525''' about having to switch to decaf coffee, suggesting she was still pregnant at the time. Any potential explanations for this discrepancy?--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 11:28, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | I understand that the new Essential Visual Guide lists Miranda Keyes date of birth as '''February 28th, 2525''', however Dr. Halsey's journal suggests that the rendezvous which led to her conception took place in '''November 2524'''. If that's the case it's one hell of a short pregnancy (3 1/2 months). I suppose it's possible that her tryst with Keyes took place 6 months before she got around to writing about it, but the language and writing style of the entry seem to imply it was a recent development. Finally, Halsey writes on '''March 9, 2525''' about having to switch to decaf coffee, suggesting she was still pregnant at the time. Any potential explanations for this discrepancy?--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 11:28, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Maybe she knew Jacob for ''much'' longer than we thought (eg. He had assisted her for more than just the John inspection).-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 12:43, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | :Maybe she knew Jacob for ''much'' longer than we thought (eg. He had assisted her for more than just the John inspection).-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 12:43, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Possible, but the language of the journal entry suggests that this was their first meeting since she reassigned him away from the Spartan program back in 2517.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 13:18, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | ::Possible, but the language of the journal entry suggests that this was their first meeting since she reassigned him away from the Spartan program back in 2517.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 13:18, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::If it wasn't for the decaf I'd say "IVF". I guess we'd have to go with her just meeting Jacob again after her "suggestive" journal entry.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 16:03, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | :::If it wasn't for the decaf I'd say "IVF". I guess we'd have to go with her just meeting Jacob again after her "suggestive" journal entry.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 16:03, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
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::::::::If she were promoted between Halo 2 and Halo 3, then one must wonder why her oak leaf is still gold in that Tarantino-esque Halo 3 screengrab taken just before she gets shot in the back by Truth... Barring a screw-up by the art department (which is possible), the likely likely explanation that would be given is that her promotion was, in fact, a field promotion which was made permanent after her death... Either that, or the UNSC Navy color scheme is the reverse of the US Navy's... Of course, that would mean a lot of revisions to a lot of pages would be necessary, so it's probably best to assume it's a screw-up by the art dept...[[User talk:DJenser|DJenser]] 15:40, 18 July 2012 (EDT) | ::::::::If she were promoted between Halo 2 and Halo 3, then one must wonder why her oak leaf is still gold in that Tarantino-esque Halo 3 screengrab taken just before she gets shot in the back by Truth... Barring a screw-up by the art department (which is possible), the likely likely explanation that would be given is that her promotion was, in fact, a field promotion which was made permanent after her death... Either that, or the UNSC Navy color scheme is the reverse of the US Navy's... Of course, that would mean a lot of revisions to a lot of pages would be necessary, so it's probably best to assume it's a screw-up by the art dept...[[User talk:DJenser|DJenser]] 15:40, 18 July 2012 (EDT) | ||