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:::The decision to ''judge his possible appearances as non-canon'' has huge implications in our Canon policy and how we present canon information we get from games. It cannot be taken so lightly, because it would affect how we extract canon information from gameplay. I know this was based on a conversations on Discord, and we need to hear opinions from other members. —<span style="font-family: Eurostile;">'''[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:#000;">SPARTAN</span>]][[User talk:Spartan331|<span style="color:#888;">331</span>]]'''</span> 05:35, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | :::The decision to ''judge his possible appearances as non-canon'' has huge implications in our Canon policy and how we present canon information we get from games. It cannot be taken so lightly, because it would affect how we extract canon information from gameplay. I know this was based on a conversations on Discord, and we need to hear opinions from other members. —<span style="font-family: Eurostile;">'''[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:#000;">SPARTAN</span>]][[User talk:Spartan331|<span style="color:#888;">331</span>]]'''</span> 05:35, March 26, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:::: Of course we don't only use in-universe sources, I never implied that. And I would hold that the source you | :::: Of course we don't only use in-universe sources, I never implied that. And I would hold that the source you gave isn't enough evidence to suggest any in-universe name is intended, rather just nicknaming him after his Voice Actor. "Voice of the Grunt" and "Voice of Sarge" don't exactly indicate a strict format to those outtakes. Here's an incredibly similar source where a Bungie employee refers to Sergeant Banks as "Sergeant Jones" for example: http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/voices.html | ||
:::: This isn't judging what is or what is nor canon. This is simply avoiding stating things that we aren't certain of. If we don't have enough evidence to believe something happened, we can't detail it. This is why we stick to scripted events and dialogue. There is simply not enough evidence to suggest that Halo CE's Marine Sergeant is a distinct canonical character '''at all''', let alone Marcus Stacker. If you exclude ''The Silent Chartographer'', he is scripted to spawn a total of '''Zero''' times across the entire game, his other three appearances are completely random. Even upon spawning, he does not always have a consistent voice. And his face bitmap is not unique, the "Marcus" bitmap can be found on regular, helmeted marines as well. | :::: This isn't judging what is or what is nor canon. This is simply avoiding stating things that we aren't certain of. If we don't have enough evidence to believe something happened, we can't detail it. This is why we stick to scripted events and dialogue. There is simply not enough evidence to suggest that Halo CE's Marine Sergeant is a distinct canonical character '''at all''', let alone Marcus Stacker. If you exclude ''The Silent Chartographer'', he is scripted to spawn a total of '''Zero''' times across the entire game, his other three appearances are completely random. Even upon spawning, he does not always have a consistent voice. And his face bitmap is not unique, the "Marcus" bitmap can be found on regular, helmeted marines as well. | ||