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==Jiralhanae Civil War==
Should there be a page on the armed conflict between the Jiralhanae that took place before they joined the Covenant?--[[User:Halofan1234|光环的家伙]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 14:16, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

:I'm not sure; virtually all we know about this war is that the Jiralhanae were heavily scarred, technology-wise. It probably wasn't a civil war, either - the species was culturally divided into clan-based systems, even into their service under the Covenant.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 15:49, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

::In ''[[Stomping on the Heels of a Fuss]]'', the Jiralhanae continuously refer to it as "the great civil war" (p62 and 63). "Civil war" in this context may have a broader meaning, referring to a civil war amongst their entire species or civilization, as opposed to one within a single nation. Within the Covenant, species and culture are largely synonymous, as evidenced by the fact the names of Covenant species are capitalized without exception, while "human" isn't. Despite the fact the Jiralhanae tribes have differences, it's rather easy to find enough unifying similarities to group them as a single civilization. In addition, it's not entirely impossible the Jiralhanae had a united government of some kind before the war and the current tribal system is a result of regression caused by the war, much like most post-apocalyptic fiction deals with the collapse of human civilization and the re-emergence of smaller, tribal societies.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 08:44, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

:::Considering their entire species was until recently united together in an empire. I suppose you could consider it like the 1948 war between Israel and Palestine - the two were one nation that plunged into a civil war, with Israel seceeding. Tihe US civil war was between the United States and the territories that had recently seceeded from them. So, a civil war isn't just defined by "one nation goes to war with itself"; it can include warfare with territory recently seceeded from them.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 14:40, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

==Landing page update 2011==
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So, what do you think? :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 15:15, 18 October 2011 (EDT)

:A Bit of reformatting is necassary, but its definitely better than the clusterf*ck that was the old page. [[User:Infernal-Blaze]]

::Mind taking a screenshot? :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 15:58, 18 October 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for using the logo I made. It's really cool to see it on the front page!--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 21:27, 18 October 2011 (EDT)

Well I like it. Now we just need that background... [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 21:33, 18 October 2011 (EDT)

I kinda miss the pictures. Also the real world button isn't very good.--[[User talk:Ben Traeger is King|Ben Traeger is King]] 22:21, 18 October 2011 (EDT)
:What if we changed the Real World button to an image of [[Mister Chief]]? :D [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]''
::Create a good image and we'll see. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 09:47, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

:::A, that's spelled "Master Chief", and B, I have submitted to Halopedia a [http://www.halopedian.com/File:H3-MasterChiefComputerChat.png new image] to be used on the Main Page to replace that same old boring image presently being used for the IRC Live Chat picto-icon whatchamacallit that is also present in my UserWiki/userpage image gallery, the Technologies section. Subtank told me he wanted me to extract the image to replace the old one, but he hasn't done so yet. Is there something I should be concerned about, like maybe a vote, discussion, or ''something''? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:45, 14 November 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330

::''@Xamikaze'' A. Click teh link. Link be spelled teh corrects. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:06, 14 November 2011 (EST)

:::Oh, my bad. Guess I shoulda looked more closely. Maybe I do need glasses for reading? Idk, whatever. [http://www.halopedian.com/File:MisterEscher.jpg Escher print], ''¿correcto, sí, señor?'', or whatever...CRAP! :P --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 19:02, 14 November 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330

== Usage of the New Content template ==

I've noticed that people often tend to remove the New Content template [http://www.halopedian.com/index.php?title=Halo%3A_Glasslands&action=historysubmit&diff=953052&oldid=951159 the moment the "new content" comes out], without updating the page with the said new content. To me, this seems counterproductive; it negates the whole purpose of the template, which is to point out the page needs to be updated. It seems more appropriate to remove the template only after the content's some months old or already updated; otherwise there isn't much point to it in the first place. We could immediately replace it with Template:Outofdate, but that doesn't make much sense either, given the content is still very ''new''. I think the New Content template should be kept in articles for a certain amount of time, perhaps two months, after which it would be replaced by the out of date template if the content hasn't been updated by that point. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 13:43, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

I agree, 2 months seems like a fair amount of time.  [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]]  14:09, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

==Possible Sangheili Civil War article==
Throughout [[Halo: Glasslands]], there are multiple instances of a split between the Sangheili race, namely those loyal to the Arbiter and those loyal to the [[Servants of Abiding Truth]]. Near the end of the book the pilot escorting Phillips notes there has been armed conflict between the keeps on Sanghelios, does anyone else think there should be at least a brief article on this?  [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]]  12:16, 31 October 2011 (EDT)

==Up to date==
I'm just curious how up to date we are on Glasslands info. I don't have the book yet and am unwilling to read spoilers, so I can't really check. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 21:14, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

Not at all.  I've just finished reading the 10000 unread Halopedia emails that I wouldn't read before I finished the book, and we're not up to date AT ALL.  Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:29, 5 November 2011 (EDT)!
:Alright, well since you're on the ball, the first thing you should do is complete the synopsis on the [[Halo: Glasslands]] page. Which is a very big project. However, that'll lay the foundation for everything else. Then we need to do the pages main characters and plot points. I should be able to get my copy and help you out some time this week. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:18, 5 November 2011 (EDT)

You know that the book is over 400 pages long?  So when you '''get''' it is not when you'll be able to '''edit''' it.  So whenever you get it add a week or so to it and then you might be able to edit. Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  00:43, 6 November 2011 (EDT)

Hey, do we have a page for Infinity yet? Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  15:27, 6 November 2011 (EST)

==Spoilers==
We should've talked about this earlier, but what is the spoiler policy for Anniversary? Spoilers have been posted on the terminals page. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 10:23, 13 November 2011 (EST)

:I wasn't aware that the spoiler policy covered expanded universe plot. I take it someone leaked the game again; was it France (that's at least three times, already)?-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 10:49, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Remove them.  We didn't put the videos of Noble Team dying before the game came out, even though we knew they were legit. Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  11:04, 13 November 2011 (EST)!

:I accidentally read those summaries, and they are spoiling. I think we should put up a Spoiler warning on these new contents. (Removing them seems a bit harsh, we will use them eventually) If it's France again, they must be doing this deliberately, or they just have no sense of time. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>(The anti-[[UserProfile:Spartan331|social]]  [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|contributor]] who [[User talk:Spartan331|talks]] too little.)</sub> 11:07, 13 November 2011 (EST)

We should remove them, and then put them back up after the game comes out.  That's how we've always done this. Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  11:09, 13 November 2011 (EST)

:You're taking a very drastic approach, and we haven't "always" done this. Remember that this is the ''re''-release of a game that includes some expanded universe stuff that talk about the Forerunner trilogy. It's not a spoiler; it's advertisement for an upcoming book. The only way you'll be spoiled is if you hadn't read ''Cryptum'' or ''ever'' been spoiled with Forerunner trilogy stuff over the year. When ''Halo: Reach'' came out, it was a ''new'' storyline and there were too many complaints about being spoiled across the internet; that was why we tried to slow down spoiling. Even then, we only restricted Campaign, despite the Firefight and Multiplayer maps being based on Campaign (and therefore revealing to us the massive, underground Forerunner structure). When Halo 3: ODST was leaked, we did the same - it was a completely-new story that had been leaked, and thousands of people who had pre-ordered the game were being spoiled and complained. ''Halo: The Cole Protocol'' was also distributed early; no one gave a rat's ass because it was expanded-universe stuff. Summarising: the terminals aren't part of the ''Halo: Combat Evolved'' storyline, and so people who pre-ordered CEA won't be spoiled about, say, who dies in the end... because we already know what happens in that game. The only people who will be spoiled would be the people who didn't read ''Halo: Cryptum''. The end.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 11:27, 13 November 2011 (EST)

::What he said. The terminals aren't part of the game's primary story and besides, they don't even include any particularly dramatic or plot-changing reveals (unlike the pre-''Reach'' spoilers about the team members' deaths, for example), so I'd say having the summaries on the page a couple of days early isn't really a problem. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:16, 13 November 2011 (EST)

What are you talking about?  From the beginning, we knew the end... Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  12:31, 13 November 2011 (EST)!

So how about pictures? I just happened to screenshot some images from the Halo: Anniversary terminals. Would it be acceptable to upload them and possibly insert them into some articles?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] File:Bruteface.png|20  ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 12:58, 13 November 2011 (EST)

:I take it from Youtube again? :P
:Hold it off until the game is released. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 13:13, 13 November 2011 (EST)

::I'm afraid so. Though thankfully, the video I found is in high quality. Still, if they do not fit what is deemed as a Halopedia's quality standards, I can attempt to find a better source. I plan on buying a capture card soon, anyway.--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] File:Bruteface.png|20  ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 18:10, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Having watched one of the videos (to find out if it was valid or not), I would have to disagree. They are spoilers. It introduced a new character and a completely new sub-plot. Obviously, I won't be watching any more until I get my hands on the game myself, but I think the way we are using the Hide Spoilers template now is sufficient enough. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 13:42, 13 November 2011 (EST)

:I haven't seen too much right now, but I'm only seeing it as an advertisement for the next Greg Bear book; a lot of the Forerunner stuff we learn now are things that will probably appear when the novel comes out.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 14:20, 13 November 2011 (EST)

==Site logo==
Please, change the site logo. The comparison between 2001's Master Chief and 2011's Master Chief looks great on articles, but as a logo it's just unappealingly fugly. Sonasig}}10:35, 16 November 2011 (EST)

:Unfortunately, it's the community's decision... you can inspect my [[User:Subtank/halopedia.css|custom css]] to change the display on your account. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 15:13, 16 November 2011 (EST)

::I agree with Subtank. I think it's a nice deviation from the norm for Halopedia logos. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:36, 16 November 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330

==IPA==
On [[Office of Naval Intelligence|this page]] there is an IPA that shows how to pronounce "ONI." I personally think that an IPA needs to be added to many other pages, such as [[Jiralhanae]] or [[Sangheili]]. Just thought I'd run it past you guys before I went out and made the changes, only to have them reverted. [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 15:49, 30 November 2011 (EST)
:Don't think IPA is necessary in Halopedia. That said, I suggest remove the one in ONI.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 16:01, 30 November 2011 (EST)
::I think an IPA would actually be very helpful on some articles. There's been confusion about how to pronounce words like "Sangheili" and "Jiralhanae", which could be cleared up with little effort. On the other hand, it would need to be restricted - we don't really need it for most non-human-related articles, for example, or for trivial things.-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:53, 30 November 2011 (EST)
:::I'd like to see IPAs on alien words; we've had debate over how to pronounce both Sangheili and Jiralhanae, while the Forerunner trilogy adds in even more words.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 20:00, 30 November 2011 (EST)
::::That's the problem: '''''we'''''. There is no official pronunciation for all these "alien" words and to rely on trailers would simply create inconsistencies. Unless 343i releases information on how to pronounce them, I suggest avoid it.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 20:38, 30 November 2011 (EST)
:::::We don't want more inconsistencies here. Users will simply add unneeded IPA's to articles that don't even need them.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 23:15, 30 November 2011 (EST)
:::I say, only add them [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3EtmoZnNGM&t=1m27s where there's] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEsUxfNVmE4&t=1m40s confirmation.] For English phrases [http://www.halopedian.com/index.php?title=Covenant_Empire&action=historysubmit&diff=960507&oldid=960500 we probably don't need them] unless perhaps it's a proper name (but that's debatable, who needs to learn to pronounce "[[John-117]]"?). [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:50, 30 November 2011 (EST)

Apparently Karen Travis does :/ Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  09:39, 1 December 2011 (EST)

:We've had Waypoint and panels pronounce "Sangheili"; "Jiralhanae"; "Kig-yar"; "Unggoy" and "Yanme'e", along with the Forerunner stuff from the trilogy (Words like "ecumene" also exist in English, but they are not heard in day-to-day life and so may require an IPA, also).-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 11:49, 1 December 2011 (EST)

:Maybe just the words that aren't in the English language? Or whatever could be considered "common" English? [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:36, 2 December 2011 (EST)

== Machinima.com ==

Shouldn't Machinima.com have an article, as it is where lots of machinimas using Halo are found.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 00:13, 11 December 2011 (EST)

No.  All the notable Machinimas have their own articles. Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  00:45, 11 December 2011 (EST)!

Machinima.com has a wide range of Machinima made with different games. Are they notable? Yes. Are they notable to be on Halopedia since it has stuff related to Halo? No. If you look at [[:Category:Websites]], most of them are made for Halo. Machinima.com is more of a community for every video game out there. I guess having the page [[Machinima]] is fine. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 04:37, 11 December 2011 (EST)

:Spartan331 got it right. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:17, 11 December 2011 (EST)

== Censored? ==

Am I the only person with censor bars every where? Also what's #sopa and why is it censoring our logo?[[Special:Contributions/67.219.77.67|67.219.77.67]] 19:25, 17 January 2012 (EST)

It's Stop online piracy act. Read the top of the page[[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 19:38, 17 January 2012 (EST)


==These unnecessary appearances things==
What's up with all these dumb appearances things.  I've been wanted to say this for months but only now am I actually doing it.  We ONLY need two things, mentioned only and first appearances.  There's literally like 10 different other ones.  Like we have things like "indirect mention," etc.  Has anyone else been wondering where these come from? Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  20:20, 17 January 2012 (EST)!
:I agree with you. I feel all these other things and what not will just confuse readers, which is bad.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:I think the alternate appearance identifiers have their uses. "Indirect mention", for example, is to be used when the subject is clearly being referred to but not by name. Like in ''Glasslands'' (p38) where Halsey clearly refers to Noble Team but doesn't name them. I'm not sure how many of these there are, but the only other one I can remember is "First mentioned", which is a useful combination of "First appearance" and "Mentioned only", for cases where the subject is mentioned for the first time, but does not actually appear. I don't really see a problem with these, since the original purpose we started using the List of appearances section was to provide a more complete and flexible list than the old Era template. The different templates just make it more informative. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:37, 18 January 2012 (EST)

::[[:Category:Appearance templates|There are four appearance templates]]: ''First appearance'', ''First mentioned'', ''Mentioned only'', and ''Indirect mention''. I completely agree with Jugus. There is nothing wrong with being to-the-point. For example, typing <small>(First mentioned)</small> <small>(Mentioned only)</small> is unnecessary and rather messy-looking when it's just as easy to use <small>(First mentioned)</small>. Furthermore, it's not hard to tell which template is used for which circumstance; they say exactly what they mean. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 18:18, 18 January 2012 (EST)

C|Technology only}} Excuse my French, but this is fucking bullshit now.  I demand we revert this, and in fact, I do not recall ever approving this template for widespread use on the Wiki.  Please direct me to where this was made a thing.  Grah that is so stupid! '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 01:10, 13 March 2012 (EDT)!

:While we are trying to use the appearances templates to be more specific, "Technology only" is between the line of "sounding a bit too unnecessarily specific" and "specific enough to understand".  —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 06:53, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

::It's stupid, especially because Forerunner technology is the point of the whole series. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 08:03, 13 March 2012 (EDT)!
:::Yeah, I agree Vegerot. Forerunner Tech appears in almost all ''Halo'' media and mentioning every time it appeared seems to be crossing the line.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 16:14 13 March 2012 (EST)

Make it stop!  Now we have this "various armor components" things and it's just making everything unnecessary and stupid.  Nobody proposed ANY of these new appearances, and we did not reach consensus.  When I get the time I will go through and remove these silly things.  '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 10:53, 3 April 2012 (EDT)!
==Halo's Wikipedia article==
Yo, anybody wanna just spend five minuets with me and help improve [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_(series) Halo's Wikipedia article]?  There are just some really big errors that kinda tick me off and this is the best place to find good Halo writers.  (also, to put in a lot of links to Halopedia ;)) (or so it says in the sacred caves) File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 19:47, 23 January 2012 (EST)!
:I would like to, but could you tell me some of the errors? Most of these information are about Halo from the real world perspective, and I don't see the errors you are talking about. Also, some of the sources doesn't even provide a source... —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:44, 23 January 2012 (EST)
::I'd like to too, like what type of errors are there? I could add sources too.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}

Instead, can we get a few of our talented Halopedians (yeah you!) to help out with our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Halo Project on Wikipedia]?

== Wikia, one year later ==
Okay, it has been over a year since we split from Wikia.  There has been many ideas and proposals as to what to do with Wikia, but none of them have been implemented and now halo.wikia.com is just a wasteland of what used to be Halopedia.  We need to do something about Wikia '''now''', we can't just sit around any longer ignoring this issue, because it's there, and will continue to be there unless one of us does something.  As to what to do with Wikia?  I still support my past request, which is to let halopedian stick to the canon, and let halo.wikia deal with the spin-offs and what-not.  Brief overview below:  {{quote|I believe we should move this page over to the Halo Nation. As this is what the Halo Nation is for. And if we start moving pages like this over there, we can start to actually have a relationship with our sister Wikia. [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  22:21, 10 March 2011 (EST)!!
:I like the idea. We stick to the hardcore canon stuff, while they expand to the actual Halo community...it provides us both with niches that, while they may overlap, don't outright conflict. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:44, 11 March 2011 (EST)
::Yeah, and we can then form a good relationship. So, although forming 2 separate Wikias, they will still be working together. And most members will be working back and forth between the 2 Wikias. It will kinda be like the "supposed" relationship we had with halowiki.net (which, although we said that we were equal and just doing different things, we all knew that was bull crap). So, Specops, since you have a much better relationship with the administration than I do. Why don't you propose (perhaps make a page, or ask on the Manual of Style) this change. As you have said what Halo Nation's purpose is on Halo Nation. But ask on here about making this relationship with the 2. (just remember to include that I came up with the idea). [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  17:20, 11 March 2011 (EST)
No, but that's exactly the point of Halo Nation. If we do have a page for Red vs. Blue, then it would be a short page, just having an introductory paragraph and all the Red vs. Blue easter eggs in Halo. (but if we just say that Red vs. Blue is important enough to keep, then that would be the exception to the rule. As Red vs. Blue is the only machinima that has been included in the games). And there wouldn't be that many redirects. I still think it's a great way to get the Halo Nation popular. Because if we cover everything then Halo Nation will be useless. [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  20:20, 12 March 2011 (EST)}}
:It's a good idea, though unfortunately there is a lot of animosity between Halopedia and Halo Nation at the moment. I've noticed that there has been content copied from Halopedia to Halo Nation in the past. To those on Halo Nation, the idea that we suddenly want to partner up with them may seem suspicious. I'm pretty sure Wikia staff would not want to us to "interfere" with Halo Nation. When we tried to implement the idea of being a "spin off Halo wiki", Wikia staff wouldn't allow us under the argument "that deleting content from a wiki is bad". I really think that Google search results was their "real" reason for doing this.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}

What?  I wasn't aware that the Wikia staff had anything to do with this.  We're still admins over there, right?  And the people currently over there are just gonna have to suck it up, we made an official move over there, which meant that they're officially not Halopedia anymore. (or so it says in the sacred caves) File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 21:53, 28 January 2012 (EST)!

:You don't understand, Vegerot. Wikia is a company. They want to make a ''profit'' from the ads they post on their site. If they tell people that they aren't Halopedia, site traffic will go down. There won't be as much interest in the site, by users and potential advertisers. It's bad for business. They aren't going to do a darned thing to delete any of their content because they want to make money. I don't really blame them for this, that's just how it goes. The admins can't do anything about it. They could leave, I suppose, but all the content ever put on any of the pages there and the site as a whole is owned by someone else. So... If wikia staff doesn't like it, it's not gonna happen. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:36, 28 January 2012 (EST)
::Even when we moved, Wikia staff wouldn't let us put up a notice on the main page that we moved.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:::But that's something, we won't be "removing" that Wikia, if we go with my plan, we will simply be changing it, upgrading it.  That will be a big benefit for us AND them! (or so it says in the sacred caves) File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 13:26, 29 January 2012 (EST)!
::::[[halowikia:Forum:Fate_of_this_Wiki_and_what_you_can_do_about_it!|Not new]]; [[halowikia:User_blog:Subtank/Welcome_to_Halo_Nation|has been proposed]]. Ignored and forgotten weeks after.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 14:01, 29 January 2012 (EST)
::Well we ''can't'' just do nothing.  This issue is WAY too big and has been pushed aside for WAY too long.  We have to do something. (or so it says in the sacred caves) File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 18:14, 29 January 2012 (EST)!
:::Why not ''you'' do something then? Head over to Halo Nation and propose your ideas. Don't just preach to one party, hoping that the other will listen. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 18:18, 29 January 2012 (EST)
::::Is there any way to keep Halo Nation from popping up as the first result on Google when searching ''Halopedia''? It's quite annoying.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:::::Unfortunately, Wikia has the monopoly when it comes to Google search engine. I assume it is caused by Wikia's severely outdated server cache in halo.wikia's... a bug/error that Wikia never been able to fix since monaco was implemented...— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 15:53, 30 January 2012 (EST)
::::::Regardless of what Halopedia does with the wiki, the damage is irreparable. Before the split the Halo wiki was one of the top visited Gaming wikis, then once about 7-8 people out of the '''whole''' community were disgruntled with Wikia's impending changes, they split. And as a result we went from one collective though convoluted community, to two isolated and stagnant ones. The traffic on here is a shadow of what it once was, and there's no going back [[Special:Contributions/60.229.82.8|60.229.82.8]] 20:32, 6 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::Halo Nation has a larger community, but they spend more time discussing and creating public rivalry than improving their articles. That's what I think, anon. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 20:58, 6 February 2012 (EST)
::::::::If I may add my two cents: Halopedia is better than Halo Nation in lots of ways. It's better categorized, has a lot less vandalism, and still there are many more reasons why Halopedia is better. Sure the traffic here isn't very high, but I don't see any "damage" done out of splitting from Wikia. I'd rather be here with less vandalism and less traffic to worry about than on Wikia with more vandalism and public rivalries.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:::::::::I just cant stand the idea of people looking for Halopedia and going to Halo Nation, it sends a bad message about the Halo community. <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Verdana;">[[User:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#536872;">Bush</span><span style="color:#5F9EA0;">Wookie</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#91A3B0;">Camper</span>]]</sup></span> 21:16, 6 February 2012 (EST)
::::::::::Don't get me wrong, I'm a semi-dedicated user on Halopedian and have been for a few years. My main point was that it seemed almost inevitable that Halopedia would fall from grace ''in terms of the size of its community.'' It was a pick your poison scenario, either stay on with Wikia, maintain a huge community but have to deal with the mindless shit they threw our way, or become independent once again, losing most of the community, but maintaining '''sanity.''' [[Special:Contributions/60.229.82.8|60.229.82.8]] 02:56, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::::::Like I said, ''"Halo Nation has a larger community"'', and I think that's something we are missing. That's why every so often I would go there and lurk around. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 02:59, 7 February 2012 (EST)
::::::::::::Yeah, it's been a freaking long time, but I think I might need to drop in. I'm [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]. I know it's been a super long time since I've been around, but just a quick recap: I created the original site when it was at Halopedia.org. I can see why you guys split from Wikia. The ads are WAY too invasive, and not really what Halopedia was supposed to be about in the first place. I wanted it to be a place that was strictly Halo canon, but also constantly evolving and becoming better. The articles should be reviewed and edited to keep up with new facts, revelations, and story lines created by the material given by Bungie. I've gone over there, seen what they had going on. Some of the articles have original content that I wrote myself back in 2005. I was going to offer to host the site so they could be free of all the ads, but then I heard about this site and checked it out. Sure enough, I could log in. So I did. And here we are. So obviously, hosting the site isn't gonna work out, because, honestly, you guys beat me to it. I would've bought halopedia.org back, and dropped it back in there, but this works nonetheless. If it weren't for the fact there's constantly new Halo info to write about, I don't think that site would be as popular as it is. I say all that to say this: You guys are doing a great job. Please keep it up. I'm going to do my best to come in and start doing edits whenever I can. Just for fun, I'll update my [[User:AgentSeethroo|profile]] so you guys know I'm really me. If you care. Whatever.- [[User:AgentSeethroo|Totally teh Seethroo]].

==Editing templates==
I know this is kind of a silly question to ask after I've been here for so many years, but how do I edit templates?  I don't just mean the information in the templates, I mean the templates themselves.  There are some itty bitty changes I want to make to a couple templates and I can't seem to figure out how.  I'm guessing that you would need administrator privileges to modify them but if not can someone please tell me? '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 16:22, 20 February 2012 (EST)!

:Most templates can be edited by any user; only high-priority ones are locked for typical reasons. For example, You can try modifying Weapon Infobox by clicking the edit button. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 19:31, 20 February 2012 (EST)

==Composer==
I've noticed that the composer from primordium dosent have a page. Should we make one? Sorry if this is the wrong place to bring this up. Let me know we're to move it if it's wrong. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 03:29, 5 March 2012 (EST)

Yes. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 20:46, 10 March 2012 (EST)!

I've made the page but it looks pretty bad. Could someone with more skill check it out? [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 06:39, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

== site issue ==

Hey guys, when i view the site now, it has it's old look, like Halo 3 chief and stuff.-[[Special:Contributions/204.45.133.74|204.45.133.74]] 10:11, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

:1) [http://www.halopedian.com/Special:UserLogin/signup Make an account]
:2) Go to [http://www.halopedian.com/Special:Preferences preferences]
:3) Go to the "Appearances" tab.
:4) Under skins, change it to your desired appearance.  If you want the normal Halopedian experience choose "Halopedia"
:5) Profit? '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 10:29, 13 March 2012 (EDT)!

:Ignore Vegerot. It's simply a server cache issue not updating properly. It happens every now and then. Simply ignore these oddities. Of course, if you do create an account, you will not see this problem. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 14:57, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

==Removal of some things on the main page==

I don't know why I didn't notice this earlier, but there used to be the little template bar thingamajig with the New Pages, the New Images, and other stuff like that. Now that it's been removed from the page, I have no idea how to go visiting the Gallery of New Files. I liked to keep tabs on all the images being uploaded, because I wanted to make sure any and all images were at least being used for ''something''. Now it's hard to do that. So, without further ado, if I may be so bold as to ask, ''why'' was this removed? What is reasoning behind this? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 11:23, 20 March 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:They have been moved to [[Project:Community]]. For more information, see Forum:Wiki Update and You!.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:57, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
::Might I suggest adding this to the Navigation menu somewhere, like maybe say in the Community drop-menu? Just so to make it easier to navigate to it. Do something to make it easier to find and to navigate to, if you don't mind, please? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 17:26, 20 March 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:::You would need to refer to the Administrators for that request as they are the only ones capable of modifying the navigation menu. Alternatively, you could bookmark [[Project:Community]] as it will be the primary page for community activities.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 18:28, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

==You need money, bra?==
I noticed this a couple minutes ago.  Is this honestly purely to direct us to similar sites, or is there money involved too?  Because I'm sure me and other community members would be glad to help out if needed.  Don't forget why we moved to .wikia in the first place.  So it would be best to tell us ''before'' you are actually forced to ask us for money. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 15:08, 20 March 2012 (EDT)!
:I think it's showing all the sites that [[User:Porplemontage|Steve]] hosts.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 16:34 20 March 2012 (EST)

:We're fine on money; the footer links between only the wikis I host. The hope is to boost traffic/awareness from different locations, and especially the Mario Wiki which gets the most visitors. Maybe even our search engine woes as a bonus. Sidenote: Our search engine ranking will improve if links named "Halopedia" link to this website. Old "Halopedia" links that go to the Wikia site drive their ranking up. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 16:59, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

ahso, all is good now. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 17:11, 20 March 2012 (EDT)!
:Way to go for jumping the gun. :P — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 18:35, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:Edit: file removed; filename caused error. If people are still wondering, Vegerot is asking about the green footer at the end of the page (and every page).— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 19:47, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

::It's better than sites for cooking or gardening, things that have no remote relation to our own site, which was what I at least was getting on Wikia. At least these are fellow (sibling?) game sites under the Porplemontage-ey unbrella! -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:53, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
:::I wouldn't mind cooking sites... need new recipes. :P — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:07, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

==The Landing Page is Horrendously Broken==
The description box has Lorem Ipsum inside it, there's no link to the forums, and everything's generally screwy. Halp, plz? [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 10:13, 22 March 2012 (EDT)

:As seen on the message below the "Lorem ipsum", Halopedia's design team is changing the landing page. Just wait for a bit time, and things will look good again. Also, new discussions go to the ''bottom'' of talk pages. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:54, 22 March 2012 (EDT)

:@Infernal-Blaze: Most of them have been preserved under the Community Tab (the fourth one). Also, it would be much appreciated if you could leave a feedback Forum:Wiki Update and You!|here. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 15:12, 22 March 2012 (EDT)

== french? ==

Am I the only one getting half the title page in french or something or is this froma french user or is it for language compatibility?--[[User talk:Thehalocodplayer|Thehalocodplayer]] 19:30, 23 March 2012 (EDT)
:It's Latin. It's a graphic design thing. It's just dummy text used to test the page.--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 20:49, 23 March 2012 (EDT)
Oh ok cool mabye we should add a translation after it because I dont think many peeople know latin but it js a cool feature. is it like the UNSC saying or something?--[[User talk:Thehalocodplayer|Thehalocodplayer]] 07:18, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
:No it's not. It's just a common [[Wikipedia:Lorem ipsum|Placeholder]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 10:34 24 March 2012 (EST)

== Landing page update 2012 ==

Like the previous, please add in your feedback, queries, etc, here. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 17:45, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
:Why does the main page have two "Did You Know" features? And now it also has two "Navigation" panes. Oh and I like the new navigation pane :) — [[User talk:Braelok|Braelok]] 21:25, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
::Are you referring to the sidebar that is one the left side of every page?--  ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]  <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 21:31, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Exactly! It just seems a bit strange having the two of them appearing in the landing page. — [[User talk:Braelok|Braelok]] 21:51, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
::::Yeah I got you. The Sidebar is just a [[MediaWiki:Sidebar|MediaWiki Extension]] that appears on every page.--  ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]  <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 21:54, 30 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::It's simply for users who utilise either the [fullurl:FULLPAGENAME}}|useskin=monobook}} Monobook] or [fullurl:FULLPAGENAME}}|useskin=vector}} Vector] theme. Both of these themes have different layout. As such, we need to cater for those using either of the themes.
:::::Anyway, glad ya'll like it.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:50, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:There's a glitch with the navigation panel. Pages with long widths, like my userpage, scrolling horizontally will result in overlapping of the navigation sidebar and the page's content. Also, the navigation box in the main page looks slightly out of place with all the Header templates due to its difference in color. But everything else is wonderful! —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 07:03, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
::Mind posting a screenshot for the glitch on the navigation panel? As for the Navbox, the design is quite intentional as it was to follow the [[Main Page/Intro|Main Page template]]. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:16, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Oh, I see it now. The glitch is caused for those using 1024-width or smaller. Gonna fix it now. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:18, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
::::Oh wait, ''now'' I see it. :P
::::Can't do much about that. I suggest contacting Porplemontage. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:26, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::File:Porplemonton, we have a problem here.png|File:Subton, we have a problem here.png. Oh. I'm going to direct him here then.—[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 07:32, 31 March 2012 (EDT)

::::::Fixed, thank you! --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 13:16, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::::Thank ''you''! :) —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 13:18, 31 March 2012 (EDT)

==Problem==

On certain articles, the format of the page is... weird, to say the least. For example, [[Halo 4]].  This just might be something with my computer but I thought I'd bring it to attention just in case it isn't. [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 10:42, 7 April 2012 (EDT)
:Try moving your css page to "User:Iota Eti Pi/nimbus.css--File:Gravemind.svg|20  '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 10:55, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

== Era Icons ==

Is it just me, or are the Era icons no longer appearing on pages?--File:Gravemind.svg|20  '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 20:34, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

:Fixed, thanks. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 20:50, 7 April 2012 (EDT)
::Thanks.--File:Gravemind.svg|20  '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 20:52, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

==New Featured Article==

I just noticed the main page still has the last featured article on the Forerunners is still there. Shouldn't this be fixed with the newer featured article? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 20:28, 15 June 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330

:Mine says Spartan-II augmentation procedure.If I log out, it says the same. I'm no expert, but I guess you can try clearing your cache. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14 <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:00, 15 June 2012 (EDT)

:Well, I don't know how to do that, but not that it matters now, it just changed. Now I'm seeing the new featured article. So, never mind, problem solved. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 21:15, 15 June 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330
::They're both featured articles. The reason they keep changing is because they're randomized.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 13:54, 16 June 2012 (EDT)
:::Per above. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  11:05, 17 June 2012 (EDT)
::::Oh, well in that case, then it makes much more sense to me now than it did a while ago. Thanks for the explanation. I assume I'll have to be expecting this when the next featured article has won the nomination vote or something. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 14:05, 17 June 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330

== Organization of Reach location ==

File:Reach_map.png|thumb|right|Viery; Ütközet or Eposz?]]

We need better organization of a number of ''Halo: Reach'' locations, as some pages offer contradictory information to their respective article. The three notable "problem pages" are [[Ütközet]]; [[Viery Territory]] and [[Eposz]]. From what [[Auntie Dot]] said in ''Tip of the Spear'', the Viery Territory entirely covered by UNSC convoys, suggesting that the entire continent (and perhaps more) is within the Viery Territory's borders. Of course, "Territory" suggests politics, and so is not the name of the continent, itself - it's like how Papua New Guinea is part of the continent of Australia, which is often confused with the country of [[Australia]].

File:Aszod_Location.png|thumb|left]]

From what we can see in this chart, Eposz is part of Ütközet, which itself is within the Viery Territory. We can assume, therefore, that Ütközet is the name of the continent and that Eposz is a sub-division or region within the continent. Szurdok Ridge and Aszod are specific locations within the continent.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 13:00, 17 June 2012 (EDT)
{{clear}}
:I recall a Waypoint article or video (?) mentioning that Eposz is a continent, which would likely make it the large landmass in the center of the map (the one that includes the "VIS" and "CAS" call-outs). This is, however, problematic given how the game labels Sword Base as being located in Eposz; according to the map, the base and the Babd Catha Ice Shelf are on a separate landmass north of the central continent.

:As for Ütközet being a continent, it's a possibility, but it would mean that it's the one where Sword Base is located and thus north of the central landmass. This seems unlikely, given the diverse climate and geographical conditions we see within Ütközet - Sword Base's arctic region, the temperate surroundings of New Alexandria, and the deserts of Aszod and Szurdok Ridge. 

:I was also under the impression that the Viery Territory was more of a political or administrative region rather than a geographical one; this is fairly evident even from the "Territory" in the name, so I think we can rule out Viery being a continent. It seems to be a massive region, given how everything in the game takes place there; perhaps one of two or three planetary territories.

:However, this seems to leave us with no viable candidates in terms of actual continents. Could it be that regardless of the fissures separating the central continent from the land to the north, all of the landmasses surrounding the large crater-sea to the upper right of the map are arbitrarily grouped together as a single supercontinent? That would certainly solve the problem, though I don't see why the people charting Reach would make such a decision. Or maybe the people in charge of ''Halo: Reach'''s cinematics didn't think the call-outs through and now we're stuck with what appears to be contradictory information. In a fictional sense, though, I'd go with the former explanation. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 13:50, 17 June 2012 (EDT)


== Silentium ==

I was just wondering why Silentium doesn't have it's own page, and is not included in the Books & Media drop down list. I know it's supposed to be some sort of working title rather than concrete but I don't see why that should stop it from having it's own page until further info is revealed. It has been several weeks since the name was disclosed after all. File:UNSC_MIC.jpg|18 <span style="color:blue; font-family:Lucida Sans Unicode; font-size:100%">'''Captain'''</span> [[User:Mcloganator|<span style="color:pink; font-family:Lucida Sans Unicode; font-size: 100%">'''MIC'''</span>]] 19:11, 21 June 2012 (EDT)
:Yeah you're right, the name is merely a working title. All we know about the book is it's working name, so it's pretty pointless to have a page at the moment. Let's wait until Tor makes an official announcement.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 11:10, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

== New Content template v2 ==

Pertaining somewhat to [[Talk:Main_Page#Usage_of_the_New_Content_template|this]] discussion, I have begun removing the New Content tag from pages relating to ''Halo: Glasslands''. (Most of these pages have been updated with new information, but it seems as if we forgot to remove them when updating these pages.) However there a quite a few pages with the tag, so if I could get some help, that would be appreciated. Thanks.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 12:48, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

== Glitch, or my computer? ==

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Is this being caused by my computer, or is it some weird glitch that needs to be fixed? Anyone else getting this?--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 23:53, 13 July 2012 (EDT)

:I'm updating the wiki at this moment and it was like that while the database update ran. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 23:58, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
::Ah, ok. Thanks.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 00:00, 14 July 2012 (EDT)