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::Actually, Eric Nylund has a master's degree in chemical physics, so he actually does know what he's saying. You could just write it off as an error, but again this shows up in four separate books (TFOR, GoO, First Strike, and Evolutions) written years apart by a guy who probably knows what a hypervelocity impact looks like, ''and'' it's supported by other comments in those books such as MAC slugs being referred to as "supersonic". So I'm extremely skeptical of the idea that no one involved in the creative process had any idea what they were actually writing (e.g., by writing a slug penetrating cleanly through the ship, Nylund was writing it as travelling at less than 1.7 kilometers per second). But even ignoring that, I don't think I'm making a leap here; it's not even really an extrapolation, now that I think about it, and is certainly far less of one than just declaring that hypervelocity physics don't exist in Halo with no evidence of such a thing. Slugs fired from coilguns which explicitly have the ability to dial down velocity (based on the Reach commentary) in exchange for a faster firing rate (seen in TFOR, where they can be fired with less than 100% power), are repeatedly seen being launched at speeds far below their potential maximum (the tungsten slugs not vaporizing on impact puts a hard limit on their velocity, even ignoring all visual scenes of MACs being used). Simple reasoning based on their known capabilities then dictates that, if the slugs are going at below their maximum speed, and the guns are firing one every few seconds, then less power is being put into each shot. If anything it seems more questionable to just list the 30 km/s velocity as their standard velocity without also noting that, beyond a single occasion in TFOR, slugs never travel that fast anywhere (well, besides the Encyclopedia :D), either in the books or in visual media (games, movies). Similarly, outside of one battle, MACs never seem to need that much time to recharge their shots... | ::Actually, Eric Nylund has a master's degree in chemical physics, so he actually does know what he's saying. You could just write it off as an error, but again this shows up in four separate books (TFOR, GoO, First Strike, and Evolutions) written years apart by a guy who probably knows what a hypervelocity impact looks like, ''and'' it's supported by other comments in those books such as MAC slugs being referred to as "supersonic". So I'm extremely skeptical of the idea that no one involved in the creative process had any idea what they were actually writing (e.g., by writing a slug penetrating cleanly through the ship, Nylund was writing it as travelling at less than 1.7 kilometers per second). But even ignoring that, I don't think I'm making a leap here; it's not even really an extrapolation, now that I think about it, and is certainly far less of one than just declaring that hypervelocity physics don't exist in Halo with no evidence of such a thing. Slugs fired from coilguns which explicitly have the ability to dial down velocity (based on the Reach commentary) in exchange for a faster firing rate (seen in TFOR, where they can be fired with less than 100% power), are repeatedly seen being launched at speeds far below their potential maximum (the tungsten slugs not vaporizing on impact puts a hard limit on their velocity, even ignoring all visual scenes of MACs being used). Simple reasoning based on their known capabilities then dictates that, if the slugs are going at below their maximum speed, and the guns are firing one every few seconds, then less power is being put into each shot. If anything it seems more questionable to just list the 30 km/s velocity as their standard velocity without also noting that, beyond a single occasion in TFOR, slugs never travel that fast anywhere (well, besides the Encyclopedia :D), either in the books or in visual media (games, movies). Similarly, outside of one battle, MACs never seem to need that much time to recharge their shots... | ||
I don't actually have an account with which I could contact GrimBrother or official 343 employee, and would prefer not to make one with the sole intent of asking a single lore-related question. If someone else could ask one of them "when MAC slugs visibly trail across the screen at a few km/s rather than 30 km/s (as they did in that one scene in TFOR), and behave like projectiles traveling at perhaps 1 km/s rather than hypervelocity (in all battle scenes in the books) | I don't actually have an account with which I could contact GrimBrother or official 343 employee, and would prefer not to make one with the sole intent of asking a single lore-related question. If someone else could ask one of them "when MAC slugs visibly trail across the screen at a few km/s rather than 30 km/s (as they did in that one scene in TFOR), and behave like projectiles traveling at perhaps 1 km/s rather than hypervelocity (in all battle scenes in the books), is that because the MAC gunners are just firing with less than 100% charge, or did Nylund + his editors + all the animators just make the same mistake several times?", that would be appreciated!--[[Special:Contributions/68.107.65.53|68.107.65.53]] 03:42, 20 December 2015 (EST) | ||
What Morhek said. It seems unnecessary for us to include these kind of notes, or else one might ask why we don't include ones on the Sangheili page about bipedal convergent evolution or the slipspace page nitpicking other violations of the speed of light barrier. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:41, 20 December 2015 (EST) | What Morhek said. It seems unnecessary for us to include these kind of notes, or else one might ask why we don't include ones on the Sangheili page about bipedal convergent evolution or the slipspace page nitpicking other violations of the speed of light barrier. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:41, 20 December 2015 (EST) | ||