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== VISR 4.0 == | == VISR 4.0 == | ||
This video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPKWXZyfa6o&] shows that the visors of the GEN 2 are called VISR 4.0, all the way up to 4.09. Does this mean that they are simply later versions of the ODST VISR? If so, does that mean the data and software on the visors are called VISR 4.0 or are the visors themselves called VISR 4.0? I put it in the article, but I linked to the [[VISR]] that mostly describes the ODST version. Do we need to distinguish between the two and if so, is an article needed or just a subsection?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 04:17, 21 September 2012 (EDT) | This video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPKWXZyfa6o&] shows that the visors of the GEN 2 are called VISR 4.0, all the way up to 4.09. Does this mean that they are simply later versions of the ODST VISR? If so, does that mean the data and software on the visors are called VISR 4.0 or are the visors themselves called VISR 4.0? I put it in the article, but I linked to the [[VISR]] that mostly describes the ODST version. Do we need to distinguish between the two and if so, is an article needed or just a subsection?--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 04:17, 21 September 2012 (EDT) | ||
== Halo 4 armor considered a different set? == | == Halo 4 armor considered a different set? == | ||
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== Question == | == Question == | ||
I read the Interactive Guide on Waypoint and noticed that some of the armor systems were tested during the Covenant invasion of Earth. What confuses me is that there weren't Spartan-IV's yet, with the handful of II's and III's being unavailable. Some armor systems were still tested as MJOLNIR systems but apparently without sustainable testees. Who would've have been testing these? For example, it mentions that ONI personnel tested the Air Assault and Orbital variants around Earth and Luna but it doesn't imply that Spartan personnel were the ones who did it.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 05:26, 31 October 2012 (EDT) | I read the Interactive Guide on Waypoint and noticed that some of the armor systems were tested during the Covenant invasion of Earth. What confuses me is that there weren't Spartan-IV's yet, with the handful of II's and III's being unavailable. Some armor systems were still tested as MJOLNIR systems but apparently without sustainable testees. Who would've have been testing these? For example, it mentions that ONI personnel tested the Air Assault and Orbital variants around Earth and Luna but it doesn't imply that Spartan personnel were the ones who did it.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 05:26, 31 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Do we know for sure when the Spartan IV program was first started though? For all we know, the S-IVs could have been up and running during the Battle of Earth. Either way, I'm sure there's other methods of testing the armor without the use of Spartan IVs- I mean, what were Maria and Naomi doing in that time period? --[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 05:37, 31 October 2012 (EDT) | :Do we know for sure when the Spartan IV program was first started though? For all we know, the S-IVs could have been up and running during the Battle of Earth. Either way, I'm sure there's other methods of testing the armor without the use of Spartan IVs- I mean, what were Maria and Naomi doing in that time period? --[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 05:37, 31 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
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In a Waypoint Bulletin (can't find it) bs angel stated that the developers wanted to put all of the Chief's previous armor systems in Halo 4 but there wasn't enough room left on the game disc. This can be assumed to be the Mark IV and V. So does this mean that GEN2 is that far back backwards compatible?--[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 23:56, 31 October 2012 (EDT) | In a Waypoint Bulletin (can't find it) bs angel stated that the developers wanted to put all of the Chief's previous armor systems in Halo 4 but there wasn't enough room left on the game disc. This can be assumed to be the Mark IV and V. So does this mean that GEN2 is that far back backwards compatible?--[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 23:56, 31 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:The only answer that statement gives is an inconclusive "maybe". Deleted ideas and concepts cannot be considered canon until stated otherwise. I'd love it if Halo 5, on the next-gen Xbox, was able to include all previous armour types - I would dearly love to sport a Mark V helmet in Spartan Ops. And while I like the look of some of the new armour variants, none of the new ones quite match some of the old classics. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:43, 1 November 2012 (EDT) | :The only answer that statement gives is an inconclusive "maybe". Deleted ideas and concepts cannot be considered canon until stated otherwise. I'd love it if Halo 5, on the next-gen Xbox, was able to include all previous armour types - I would dearly love to sport a Mark V helmet in Spartan Ops. And while I like the look of some of the new armour variants, none of the new ones quite match some of the old classics. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:43, 1 November 2012 (EDT) | ||
::A few of the new ones have the classic look to them. Air Assault, Enforcer, EVA, Mk VI (of course), Recon, Recruit, and Scout look pretty normal for Mjolnir. Let's just say I'm not a huge fan of the rest. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:22, 3 November 2012 (EDT) | ::A few of the new ones have the classic look to them. Air Assault, Enforcer, EVA, Mk VI (of course), Recon, Recruit, and Scout look pretty normal for Mjolnir. Let's just say I'm not a huge fan of the rest. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:22, 3 November 2012 (EDT) | ||
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== Header image == | == Header image == | ||
There's no reason that the Warrior variant should be the image header of the article. In fact, it should be the standard issue, default Recruit variant instead. This makes a little more sense to have it portray the GEN2. However, we don't have any high-quality, purely default Recruit config images out there so for now I guess the Warrior is okay. But when we finally do conjure up such an image, it should definitely be image #1 on here. If there's no contest, I can make the edit right now with a stand-in Recruit image.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 22:47, 4 November 2012 (EST); | There's no reason that the Warrior variant should be the image header of the article. In fact, it should be the standard issue, default Recruit variant instead. This makes a little more sense to have it portray the GEN2. However, we don't have any high-quality, purely default Recruit config images out there so for now I guess the Warrior is okay. But when we finally do conjure up such an image, it should definitely be image #1 on here. If there's no contest, I can make the edit right now with a stand-in Recruit image.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 22:47, 4 November 2012 (EST); | ||
:According to their descriptions, Warrior is factory standard while Recruit is standard issue. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:11, 13 November 2012 (EST) | :According to their descriptions, Warrior is factory standard while Recruit is standard issue. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:11, 13 November 2012 (EST) | ||
::Okay cool that works--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 04:13, 21 November 2012 (EST) | ::Okay cool that works--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 04:13, 21 November 2012 (EST) | ||
== Requirements == | == Requirements == | ||
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I think it'd be a good idea to add the requirements for unlocking each armor set and visor to this page. Since some armors and visors seem to have different conditions for acquiring the normal and special versions of each set, and these conditions aren't even defined until semi-unknown conditions are met, it would be helpful to players to be able to look up what they need to do to unlock, for instance, the standard Enforcer helemet. --[[User:Delta1138|Delta1138]] [[User_talk:Delta1138|SnooPING AS usual I see]] 13:39, 13 November 2012 (EST) | I think it'd be a good idea to add the requirements for unlocking each armor set and visor to this page. Since some armors and visors seem to have different conditions for acquiring the normal and special versions of each set, and these conditions aren't even defined until semi-unknown conditions are met, it would be helpful to players to be able to look up what they need to do to unlock, for instance, the standard Enforcer helemet. --[[User:Delta1138|Delta1138]] [[User_talk:Delta1138|SnooPING AS usual I see]] 13:39, 13 November 2012 (EST) | ||
:There's already a page for that: [[Armor | :There's already a page for that: [[Armor permutations (Halo 4)]]. --[[User talk:Dr Mutran|Dr Mutran]] 14:47, 13 November 2012 (EST) | ||
== Leg/arm sets == | == Leg/arm sets == | ||
Shouldn't these get their own article, too? [[Special:Contributions/98.24.14.97|98.24.14.97]] 13:46, 8 December 2012 (EST) | Shouldn't these get their own article, too? [[Special:Contributions/98.24.14.97|98.24.14.97]] 13:46, 8 December 2012 (EST) | ||
:Maby we should include pics of both male and female versions for each armor so that we can compare. Maby we can put it each of the armor varient articals.{{unsigned| | :Maby we should include pics of both male and female versions for each armor so that we can compare. Maby we can put it each of the armor varient articals.{{unsigned|Ampmaster}} | ||
:I don't see why not. I may start making the articles for them later today. @Ampmaster: maybe a pic of 1 armor set (lets say the recruit armor) for comparison but not every armor. Just seems over excessive and redundant. Like subtank said before me, this isn't a repository for images.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 08:39, 25 February 2013 (EST) | :I don't see why not. I may start making the articles for them later today. @Ampmaster: maybe a pic of 1 armor set (lets say the recruit armor) for comparison but not every armor. Just seems over excessive and redundant. Like subtank said before me, this isn't a repository for images.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 08:39, 25 February 2013 (EST) | ||
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I know this is going to take a lot of time, but i'm sure someone will do it: replace every GEN2 Armor image with a new one colored sage that actually looks like a real Spartan (like [http://i.imgur.com/63ISvLG.png this]), not like a silly power ranger (like [[FOEHAMMER-class_Mjolnir|this]]). It would look a lot better if the images showed real soldiers, instead of silly dudes made by the players! {{Unsigned|Firex}} | I know this is going to take a lot of time, but i'm sure someone will do it: replace every GEN2 Armor image with a new one colored sage that actually looks like a real Spartan (like [http://i.imgur.com/63ISvLG.png this]), not like a silly power ranger (like [[FOEHAMMER-class_Mjolnir|this]]). It would look a lot better if the images showed real soldiers, instead of silly dudes made by the players! {{Unsigned|Firex}} | ||
:The different colors are to give them variety. If each armor was shown with the same color it would make the articles bland and uninteresting. Also please post your comments on the bottom of a talk page, not the top.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 19:07, 4 March 2016 (EST) | :The different colors are to give them variety. If each armor was shown with the same color it would make the articles bland and uninteresting. Also please post your comments on the bottom of a talk page, not the top.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 19:07, 4 March 2016 (EST) | ||