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| Wow CT, You couldn't of just renamed mine instead of deleteing it? It doesn't matter but '''you''' completly wasted my time, and don't say you didn't. But oh will, not that important, just kinda of unerving.[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 02:50, March 28, 2010 (UTC) | | Wow CT, You couldn't of just renamed mine instead of deleteing it? It doesn't matter but '''you''' completly wasted my time, and don't say you didn't. But oh will, not that important, just kinda of unerving.[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 02:50, March 28, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Its not that big a deal. Chances are if you feel the need to rant about something, you probably shouldn't. Might come back to bite you on the ass. <font color="#7F007F">[[User:Blade_bane/Stats|'''B''']][[Special:Contributions/Blade_bane|'''L''']][[User:Blade_bane/Guestbook|'''A''']][[User:Blade_bane/Signature|<font color="#000000">'''D'''</font>]][[User:Blade_bane/Quotes|<font color="#B0E0E6">'''E'''</font>]][[User:Blade bane|'''BANE''']]</font> [[User:Blade_bane|<font color="#FFA500">Anti-Vandal</font>]] 02:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)Blade bane | | :Its not that big a deal. Chances are if you feel the need to rant about something, you probably shouldn't. Might come back to bite you on the ass. <font color="#7F007F">[[User:Blade_bane/Stats|'''B''']][[Special:Contributions/Blade_bane|'''L''']][[User:Blade_bane/Guestbook|'''A''']][[User:Blade_bane/Signature|<font color="#000000">'''D'''</font>]][[User:Blade_bane/Quotes|<font color="#B0E0E6">'''E'''</font>]][[User:Blade bane|'''BANE''']]</font> [[User:Blade_bane|<font color="#FFA500">Anti-Vandal</font>]] 02:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)Blade bane |
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| Just wanted to bring this up, i found a weird helmet while doing the [[Armor permutation glitch]]; It resembles a Mark V (B) with a CNM-I attachment(like from a [[HAZOP]] helmet). Thing is, as far as i know, Mark V (B) doesn't have a CNM-I attachment. Is this just a glitch or is it indicative of more armors hidden in the game or something? [[User talk:Datadeleter|DatrDeletr]] 05:40, 13 November 2010 (EST) | | Just wanted to bring this up, i found a weird helmet while doing the [[Armor Permutation Glitch]]; It resembles a Mark V (B) with a CNM-I attachment(like from a [[HAZOP]] helmet). Thing is, as far as i know, Mark V (B) doesn't have a CNM-I attachment. Is this just a glitch or is it indicative of more armors hidden in the game or something? [[User talk:Datadeleter|DatrDeletr]] 05:40, 13 November 2010 (EST) |
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| Glitch. I've found the Mark V visor, basic one, on EVA, and some my personal favorite, UA on Air Assault. EM | | Glitch. I've found the Mark V visor, basic one, on EVA, and some my personal favorite, UA on Air Assault. {{EM Sig}} |
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| Yep, that's a V(B) with the unnamed night-vision like attachment and a Command Network Module-Improved. In terms of canon, and game file settings any attachment could be attached to any helmet, there's just only a few available for us to use in the armory. The randomly generated Spartans in Lone Wolf can do the same thing, I've seen grenade belts on chests that don't have them normally, and vice versa, and I've also seen the Patrol chest without the ghillie on it, because, technically, the game can do that. We just have limited options. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:50, 15 November 2010 (EST) | | Yep, that's a V(B) with the unnamed night-vision like attachment and a Command Network Module-Improved. In terms of canon, and game file settings any attachment could be attached to any helmet, there's just only a few available for us to use in the armory. The randomly generated Spartans in Lone Wolf can do the same thing, I've seen grenade belts on chests that don't have them normally, and vice versa, and I've also seen the Patrol chest without the ghillie on it, because, technically, the game can do that. We just have limited options. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:50, 15 November 2010 (EST) |
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| I noticed that the page title uses (B) but everywhere else its mentioned its written as [B]. Why? is this an oversight? | | I noticed that the page title uses (B) but everywhere else its mentioned its written as [B]. Why? is this an oversight? |
| --File:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>File:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 16:31, 17 November 2010 (EST) | | --[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 16:31, 17 November 2010 (EST) |
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| :No. Wiki formatting can't use the box bracket as it would be unlinkable (links using the same bracket format). Just make sure the page itself calls it the Mark V[B] while ignoring the title.-- [[Special:Contributions/86.133.76.36|86.133.76.36]] 17:17, 17 November 2010 (EST) | | :No. Wiki formatting can't use the box bracket as it would be unlinkable (links using the same bracket format). Just make sure the page itself calls it the Mark V[B] while ignoring the title.-- [[Special:Contributions/86.133.76.36|86.133.76.36]] 17:17, 17 November 2010 (EST) |
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| yes but i got around that by typing for example: <nowiki>[[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark V(B)|Mark[B]]]</nowiki> which results in [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark V(B)|Mark[B]]]. so maybe a [B] in the actual page name wont affect a link if you type it this way. or maybe is it that you can only type []s after the | | | yes but i got around that by typing for example: <nowiki>[[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark V(B)|Mark[B]]]</nowiki>. so maybe a [B] in the actual page name wont affect a link if you type it this way |
| --File:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>File:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 17:34, 17 November 2010 (EST) | | --[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[Image:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 17:34, 17 November 2010 (EST) |
| :The latter. Title have some limit; trying to create a MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark V[B] would result in the following message, <code>The requested page title was invalid, empty, or an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title. It may contain one or more characters which cannot be used in titles.</code> - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 17:48, 17 November 2010 (EST)
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| --File:Legendary.jpg|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Orange">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>File:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 17:51, 17 November 2010 (EST)
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| will inserting this text <nowiki>{{Title|MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark V[B]}}</nowiki> solve the problem?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 18:42, 6 December 2010 (EST)
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| Whoah! so it worked!!!--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 18:42, 6 December 2010 (EST)
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| Does beta material such as "The UA/Multi-threat chest plate was previously seen in the Beta as the Scout chest plate, purchasable for 200 cR. The Beta version lacked the grenade belt." in the trivia belong in here? That particular UA chest piece isnt even mark V [B], it's [W]. Can someone clear this up?--[[User talk:UNSCSILVERSTREAK|UNSCSILVERSTREAK]] 17:34, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
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| I see now that there is some internal inconsistancy that needs to be resolved and therefore, it may appear as if I did not know what I was talking about. This exists on the UA pages concerning the UA Multi threat armor. Sorry for the inconvienance.--[[User talk:UNSCSILVERSTREAK|UNSCSILVERSTREAK]] 22:59, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
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| Now that there is a Mark '''IV'''[B], we can't put it in this article titled Mark'''V'''[B]. However, it doesn't really deserve its own page. A solution is to rename this something like, simply, Mark [B] (idk), so that both iterations can remain.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 01:38, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
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| :Likely a prototype helmet for the Mark V, fielded as early as 2525 simply to gather data which would be used to improve the helmet. We've seen prototype gears being fielded to Spartans to gather more data to improve the gear for its official armour system (i.e. Mark VI helmet and Recon helmet in ''Reach'' are described as prototypes for the Mark VI).— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:45, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
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| ::So in the gallery it should be referred to as "Mark V[B] prototype" instead of "Mark IV[B]" right?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 01:56, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
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| :::That's what I would do. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:59, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
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| ::::I don't know, I'm starting to think it's not the Mark V version prototype. It seems more like the [B] helmet of the Mark IV series. Then again, we can't really say anything at all on this topic and so maybe we should avoid trying to give the FUD appearance too specific a designation.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 20:32, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
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| :The Mark system wouldn't be introduced for [[2535|another nine years]], so therefore it can't be the "Mark IV[B]". [[:File:MarkIV model.jpg|These]] [[:File:FUD-Master-Chief.jpg|helmets]] were upgraded and carried over to the Mark V and Mark VI, respectively, but that doesn't mean that they were Mark V/Mark VI prototypes. Remember that MJOLNIR's external components are irrelevant; it's the internal architecture that matters. [[:File:FUD-Fred-104.jpg|Fred's]] [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb0czh9e9d1qzbz8uo1_500.jpg outfit] is just a first-generation MJOLNIR variant that was later upgraded for use with the Mark V[B]. Any "proper" name we tried to give it, (''i.e.'' "Mark IV[B]" or "Mark V[B] prototype"), would be fanon. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 00:16, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
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| ::So all we can really say is that Fred's armor in FUD looks like the Mark V[B], 343 pulled a [[Homecoming]].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 01:49, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
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| :::So no real edit has addressed this in the article. What decision should we take? As of now, the article currently contradicts itself; the intro refers to it as IV while the gallery has V prototype.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 04:09, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
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| ::@Braidenvl: Can you supply the source for the Mark system introduction date? — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 08:56, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
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| :::Halsey's journal - January 7th, 2535 entry. It's also discussed [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark IV#Final production model|here]]. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:08, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
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| ::::Hmm. Retroactive application maybe? Happens a lot, like the [GEN1] and [GEN2].
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| ::::I am of the opinion that it is safe to treat the appearance of the Mark V[B] in FuD as a advanced prototype armour. This would be similar to the K-variant that appeared in "Birth of a Spartan": Frankie [http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20994364&postcount=4754 said that the armour is simply a prototype] and that its intended appearance is for the Mark V. On that note, the description for the K-variant in the gallery is inaccurate since Frankie never said anything of the K-variant being part of the Mark IV. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:33, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
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| Now we have to make a choice, because there is really such a thing as a MJOLNIR [B] armor according to Halo Waypoint (Fred's page), both for the Mark IV and Mark V. As stated earlier by Braidenvl, the term "Mark IV" didn't exist, but I think it's somehow irrelevant because names have often been applied retroactively. I suggest moving the page to "MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/(B) variant", simply. Like we do for other armors. And this time, we can't really accuse 343i of canonizing Halopedia's speculation, because we did refrain from doing anything risky. I have to say I'm glad that they made this choice, in my head it had always been like this, although due to the above conversation I never really tried to force this into the wiki, for obvious reasons. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 17:32, 10 November 2014 (EST)
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| :I wonder if they should really get separate pages. As I suggested, we usually put Mark IV, V and VI variants on the same page, for example "[[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/V variant|V variant]]". In this case, wouldn't "(B) variant" be able to group both Mark IV(B) and Mark V(B)? [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:06, 10 November 2014 (EST)
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| We may have to discuss making a possible exception to our new titling standard with this title because "B-class Mjolnir" sounds pretty weird to me. With most of the others there's always an actual proper name preceding "class" whereas with this one there's just a "B" — which should, more properly, be "(B)" or "[B]". Seeing as this particular armor is a bit of a different from most variants (as an alternate production model of the mainline Mark IV/V rather than a specialist variant), I'm wondering if it would be more apt to title it as "(B)-variant MJOLNIR" or something to that effect. Or at least add the brackets to the "B" and make it "(B)-class MJOLNIR". --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:04, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
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| :Any of those sound fine to me. I just made sure this one didn't get left behind.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 12:16, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
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