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Just wanted to bring this up, i found a weird helmet while doing the [[Armor | Just wanted to bring this up, i found a weird helmet while doing the [[Armor Permutation Glitch]]; It resembles a Mark V (B) with a CNM-I attachment(like from a [[HAZOP]] helmet). Thing is, as far as i know, Mark V (B) doesn't have a CNM-I attachment. Is this just a glitch or is it indicative of more armors hidden in the game or something? [[User talk:Datadeleter|DatrDeletr]] 05:40, 13 November 2010 (EST) | ||
Glitch. I've found the Mark V visor, basic one, on EVA, and some my personal favorite, UA on Air Assault. EM | Glitch. I've found the Mark V visor, basic one, on EVA, and some my personal favorite, UA on Air Assault. {{EM Sig}} | ||
Yep, that's a V(B) with the unnamed night-vision like attachment and a Command Network Module-Improved. In terms of canon, and game file settings any attachment could be attached to any helmet, there's just only a few available for us to use in the armory. The randomly generated Spartans in Lone Wolf can do the same thing, I've seen grenade belts on chests that don't have them normally, and vice versa, and I've also seen the Patrol chest without the ghillie on it, because, technically, the game can do that. We just have limited options. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:50, 15 November 2010 (EST) | Yep, that's a V(B) with the unnamed night-vision like attachment and a Command Network Module-Improved. In terms of canon, and game file settings any attachment could be attached to any helmet, there's just only a few available for us to use in the armory. The randomly generated Spartans in Lone Wolf can do the same thing, I've seen grenade belts on chests that don't have them normally, and vice versa, and I've also seen the Patrol chest without the ghillie on it, because, technically, the game can do that. We just have limited options. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:50, 15 November 2010 (EST) | ||
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will inserting this text <nowiki>{{Title|MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark V[B]}}</nowiki> solve the problem?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 18:42, 6 December 2010 (EST) | will inserting this text <nowiki>{{Title|MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark V[B]}}</nowiki> solve the problem?--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 18:42, 6 December 2010 (EST) | ||
Whoah! so it worked!!!--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 18:42, 6 December 2010 (EST) | Whoah! so it worked!!!--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 18:42, 6 December 2010 (EST) | ||
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Now that there is a Mark '''IV'''[B], we can't put it in this article titled Mark'''V'''[B]. However, it doesn't really deserve its own page. A solution is to rename this something like, simply, Mark [B] (idk), so that both iterations can remain.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 01:38, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | Now that there is a Mark '''IV'''[B], we can't put it in this article titled Mark'''V'''[B]. However, it doesn't really deserve its own page. A solution is to rename this something like, simply, Mark [B] (idk), so that both iterations can remain.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 01:38, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Likely a prototype helmet for the Mark V, fielded as early as 2525 simply to gather data which would be used to improve the helmet. We've seen prototype gears being fielded to Spartans to gather more data to improve the gear for its official armour system (i.e. Mark VI helmet and Recon helmet in ''Reach'' are described as prototypes for the Mark VI).— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:45, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | :Likely a prototype helmet for the Mark V, fielded as early as 2525 simply to gather data which would be used to improve the helmet. We've seen prototype gears being fielded to Spartans to gather more data to improve the gear for its official armour system (i.e. Mark VI helmet and Recon helmet in ''Reach'' are described as prototypes for the Mark VI).— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:45, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::So in the gallery it should be referred to as "Mark V[B] prototype" instead of "Mark IV[B]" right?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 01:56, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | ::So in the gallery it should be referred to as "Mark V[B] prototype" instead of "Mark IV[B]" right?--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 01:56, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:::That's what I would do. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:59, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | :::That's what I would do. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:59, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::::I don't know, I'm starting to think it's not the Mark V version prototype. It seems more like the [B] helmet of the Mark IV series. Then again, we can't really say anything at all on this topic and so maybe we should avoid trying to give the FUD appearance too specific a designation.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 20:32, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | ::::I don't know, I'm starting to think it's not the Mark V version prototype. It seems more like the [B] helmet of the Mark IV series. Then again, we can't really say anything at all on this topic and so maybe we should avoid trying to give the FUD appearance too specific a designation.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 20:32, 20 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:The Mark system wouldn't be introduced for [[2535|another nine years]], so therefore it can't be the "Mark IV[B]". [[:File:MarkIV model.jpg|These]] [[:File:FUD-Master-Chief.jpg|helmets]] were upgraded and carried over to the Mark V and Mark VI, respectively, but that doesn't mean that they were Mark V/Mark VI prototypes. Remember that MJOLNIR's external components are irrelevant; it's the internal architecture that matters. [[:File:FUD-Fred-104.jpg|Fred's]] [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb0czh9e9d1qzbz8uo1_500.jpg outfit] is just a first-generation MJOLNIR variant that was later upgraded for use with the Mark V[B]. Any "proper" name we tried to give it, (''i.e.'' "Mark IV[B]" or "Mark V[B] prototype"), would be fanon. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 00:16, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | :The Mark system wouldn't be introduced for [[2535|another nine years]], so therefore it can't be the "Mark IV[B]". [[:File:MarkIV model.jpg|These]] [[:File:FUD-Master-Chief.jpg|helmets]] were upgraded and carried over to the Mark V and Mark VI, respectively, but that doesn't mean that they were Mark V/Mark VI prototypes. Remember that MJOLNIR's external components are irrelevant; it's the internal architecture that matters. [[:File:FUD-Fred-104.jpg|Fred's]] [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb0czh9e9d1qzbz8uo1_500.jpg outfit] is just a first-generation MJOLNIR variant that was later upgraded for use with the Mark V[B]. Any "proper" name we tried to give it, (''i.e.'' "Mark IV[B]" or "Mark V[B] prototype"), would be fanon. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 00:16, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
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::So all we can really say is that Fred's armor in FUD looks like the Mark V[B], 343 pulled a [[Homecoming]].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 01:49, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | ::So all we can really say is that Fred's armor in FUD looks like the Mark V[B], 343 pulled a [[Homecoming]].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 01:49, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:::So no real edit has addressed this in the article. What decision should we take? As of now, the article currently contradicts itself; the intro refers to it as IV while the gallery has V prototype.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 04:09, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | :::So no real edit has addressed this in the article. What decision should we take? As of now, the article currently contradicts itself; the intro refers to it as IV while the gallery has V prototype.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 04:09, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::@Braidenvl: Can you supply the source for the Mark system introduction date? — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 08:56, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | ::@Braidenvl: Can you supply the source for the Mark system introduction date? — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 08:56, 21 October 2012 (EDT) | ||