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There is no way I'm going to remember that name... --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 04:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC) | There is no way I'm going to remember that name... --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 04:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
Keep the Weapon/Anti-Vehicle Model 6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear Rifle The same name people will get confused is it isnt called that.--[[User talk:Harmphrey|Harmphrey]] 04:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[[User:Harmphrey|Harmphrey<font color="red">'''Harmp'''</font><font color="black">'''hr'''</font><font color="gold">'''ey'''</font>]] 21:24 3 2009 | Keep the Weapon/Anti-Vehicle Model 6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear Rifle The same name people will get confused is it isnt called that.--[[User talk:Harmphrey|Harmphrey]] 04:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[[User:Harmphrey|Harmphrey<font color="red">'''Harmp'''</font><font color="black">'''hr'''</font><font color="gold">'''ey'''</font>]] 21:24 3 2009 | ||
:In my opinion in appears to be just a folder hierarchy that starts at '''Weapons''' then breaks down to '''Anti-Vehicle Weapons''' and then the actual weapon "folder", the '''Galileian Nonlinear Rifle (W/AV M6 G/GNR)'''. What other reason would there be for having "Weapon" in the title? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 04:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC) | :In my opinion in appears to be just a folder hierarchy that starts at '''Weapons''' then breaks down to '''Anti-Vehicle Weapons''' and then the actual weapon "folder", the '''Galileian Nonlinear Rifle (W/AV M6 G/GNR)'''. What other reason would there be for having "Weapon" in the title? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 04:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Maby thats what bungie listed it as before naming it? some companies do that. They give it names like 'item/carry/c320' or something like that. | ::Maby thats what bungie listed it as before naming it? some companies do that. They give it names like 'item/carry/c320' or something like that. {{UserForerunner}} 15:37 - 2/2/07 | ||
You should ask Bungie that. Until you change their mind, we're keeping their name for their rifle. | You should ask Bungie that. Until you change their mind, we're keeping their name for their rifle. {{TS}} 22:37 12 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
At 98cm, This thing is definetly shoulder mounted, and looks like it weighs as much as a Rocket Launcher. | At 98cm, This thing is definetly shoulder mounted, and looks like it weighs as much as a Rocket Launcher. {{UserForerunner}} 15:41 - 2/2/07 | ||
==Laser closed chamber== | ==Laser closed chamber== | ||
Should I put in this image of the laser in its unused state?[[User:PX173|'''''PX''''']][[User_talk:PX173|''1'']]''7''[[Special:Contributions/PX173|''3'']] 06:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC) [[ | Should I put in this image of the laser in its unused state?[[User:PX173|'''''PX''''']][[User_talk:PX173|''1'']]''7''[[Special:Contributions/PX173|''3'']] 06:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC) [[Image:Closedlaser.JPG|thumb]] | ||
:Made for Custom Edition, not an official source, so no.--<b>[[User Talk:-Ascension-|<font color="red">4</font>]][[User:-Ascension-|<font color="black">scen</font>]]</b> 06:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC) | :Made for Custom Edition, not an official source, so no.--<b>[[User Talk:-Ascension-|<font color="red">4</font>]][[User:-Ascension-|<font color="black">scen</font>]]</b> 06:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Perhaps the beam splits seconds after the first firing? You know, like it diffuses, this could cause the spalsh damage that Frankie was talking about. | Perhaps the beam splits seconds after the first firing? You know, like it diffuses, this could cause the spalsh damage that Frankie was talking about. | ||
:Actully, it's just one beam if you keep the Spartan Laser straight. If you are moving if you fire, the lasers will separate, i think. Please correct me if I'm wrong. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub> [http:// | :Actully, it's just one beam if you keep the Spartan Laser straight. If you are moving if you fire, the lasers will separate, i think. Please correct me if I'm wrong. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub> [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> 06:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
In forge mode, there is a glitch where whenever you switch to monitor mode just before the laser fires, when you switch back occasionally three or more shots fire out rapidly. | In forge mode, there is a glitch where whenever you switch to monitor mode just before the laser fires, when you switch back occasionally three or more shots fire out rapidly. | ||
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== kaboom == | == kaboom == | ||
if its a rifle why dos'nt it look like a rifle and looks more like a rocket luncher | if its a rifle why dos'nt it look like a rifle and looks more like a rocket luncher | ||
:Whoever you are, while your argument doesn't make any sense -- you are actually correct. A laser cannot possibly be a rifle. Rifle's get their name from special grooves in the barrel (called rifling). A laser generally doesn't have a barrel, much less rifling in that barrel. A laser has an emitter, not a barrel or action. Therefore it is, in fact, errantly named. [[User: ElFroCampeador|ElFroCampeador]] <sup>[[User talk:ElFroCampeador|<font color="red">TALK</font>]]</sup> [[ | :Whoever you are, while your argument doesn't make any sense -- you are actually correct. A laser cannot possibly be a rifle. Rifle's get their name from special grooves in the barrel (called rifling). A laser generally doesn't have a barrel, much less rifling in that barrel. A laser has an emitter, not a barrel or action. Therefore it is, in fact, errantly named. [[User: ElFroCampeador|ElFroCampeador]] <sup>[[User talk:ElFroCampeador|<font color="red">TALK</font>]]</sup> [[Image:Marine Corp CPL.JPG|20px]] 05:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
If we want to get technical I guess we can't say Plasma Rifle anymore, should we call it Plasma-based Rifle-esque Weapon? | If we want to get technical I guess we can't say Plasma Rifle anymore, should we call it Plasma-based Rifle-esque Weapon? | ||
[[User:Zuranamee|Zuranamee]] 1:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | [[User:Zuranamee|Zuranamee]] 1:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Covenant weapons have their own names pronounced in covenant toungues. And that includes the Beam Rifle, unless I'm missing something. And I presume Bungie made it a rifle because we couldn't make it a 'gun'(guns fire projectiles), a 'cannon'(used for siege, defense, also fire projectiles), or a launcher(WTF '''''laser launcher?!'''''). But still, it'd be more appropriate to replace rifle with laser.[[User:PX173|'''''PX''''']][[User_talk:PX173|''1'']]''7''[[Special:Contributions/PX173|''3'']] 02:14, 28 May 2009 | :Covenant weapons have their own names pronounced in covenant toungues. And that includes the Beam Rifle, unless I'm missing something. And I presume Bungie made it a rifle because we couldn't make it a 'gun'(guns fire projectiles), a 'cannon'(used for siege, defense, also fire projectiles), or a launcher(WTF '''''laser launcher?!'''''). But still, it'd be more appropriate to replace rifle with laser.[[User:PX173|'''''PX''''']][[User_talk:PX173|''1'']]''7''[[Special:Contributions/PX173|''3'']] 02:14, 28 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
== name origin.... == | == name origin.... == | ||
Did they call it the ''Spartan Laser'' in honor of the Master Chief and the other spartans or is it because only spartans are qualified(able) to use them?--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 21:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!! | Did they call it the ''Spartan Laser'' in honor of the Master Chief and the other spartans or is it because only spartans are qualified(able) to use them?--[[User:0nyx Sp1k3r|0nyx Sp1k3r]] 21:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!! | ||
I'm guessing the latter, since Lasers were still experimental at the time.--[[ | I'm guessing the latter, since Lasers were still experimental at the time.--[[Image:Laser Kill.gif|20px]] ''<strong>[[User:Digipatd|<font color="Black">digipatd</font>]] | [[User talk:Digipatd|<font color="Black">talk</font>]] | [[User:Digipatd/Contacts|<font color="Black">contact</font>]] | [[Halopedia:Covenant_of_Halopedia/Elections/Fourth_Term|<font color="Black">vote</font>]] | [http://live.xbox.com/member/Digipatd <font color="Black">play</font>]</strong>'' 22:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
Sergeant Johnson was the first UNSC soldier to fire the 'Spartan Laser' It is believed that Johnson is a member of the first Spartan program (though it wasn't called the Spartan program at the time). ([[User:Jay Hus|Jay Hus]] 21:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)) | Sergeant Johnson was the first UNSC soldier to fire the 'Spartan Laser' It is believed that Johnson is a member of the first Spartan program (though it wasn't called the Spartan program at the time). ([[User:Jay Hus|Jay Hus]] 21:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)) | ||
It's most likely called the Spartan Laser because only a Spartan can lift and use the laser unassisted. Johnson is the only Marine to use the Laser, and he could be a possible Spartan I. You can give it to a Marine in The Covenant, but this is probably a programming oversight.[[User:Metaridley|Metaridley]] 15:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC) | It's most likely called the Spartan Laser because only a Spartan can lift and use the laser unassisted. Johnson is the only Marine to use the Laser, and he could be a possible Spartan I. You can give it to a Marine in The Covenant, but this is probably a programming oversight.[[User:Metaridley|Metaridley]] 15:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
ODSTs can use them.[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 19:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | ODSTs can use them.[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 19:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
Maybe it's because both the SPARTANs and the Spartan Laser are very powerful [[User talk:Ketsumaye|Ketsumaye]] 01:49, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | Maybe it's because both the SPARTANs and the Spartan Laser are very powerful [[User talk:Ketsumaye|Ketsumaye]] 01:49, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Design == | == Design == | ||
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So that means the UNSC reverse-reverse engineered it? Because the covenant reverse engineered forerunner stuff, and if the humans did that to covenant tech...[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 19:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | So that means the UNSC reverse-reverse engineered it? Because the covenant reverse engineered forerunner stuff, and if the humans did that to covenant tech...[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 19:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Spartan Laser WAV M6 GGNR== | ==Spartan Laser WAV M6 GGNR== | ||
Do you think we should rename this article '''Spartan Laser WAV M6 GGNR''' as seen in the Halo 3 Manual? --[[User:EliteSpartan|EliteSpartan]] 6:17 August 17, 2007 | Do you think we should rename this article '''Spartan Laser WAV M6 GGNR''' as seen in the [[Halo 3 Manual]]? --[[User:EliteSpartan|EliteSpartan]] 6:17 August 17, 2007 | ||
Why not but lets wait for the approval of the admins. | Why not but lets wait for the approval of the admins. | ||
[[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] | [[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] [[Image:kpisalasergod2.gif|35px]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>] (currently have red ring of D3TH)</sup> | ||
Well the names are exactly the same, the only difference are a pair of /, probs just for ease of printing and to stop confusing newbies :P. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 14:27, 18 August 2007 (UTC) | Well the names are exactly the same, the only difference are a pair of /, probs just for ease of printing and to stop confusing newbies :P. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 14:27, 18 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
Hey it is an abreviation. [[User:Clavix2|<font color="Black">Clavix2</font>]] [[ | Hey it is an abreviation. [[User:Clavix2|<font color="Black">Clavix2</font>]] [[Image:Halo2emblem.ashx.jpeg|30px]] <sup> [[User talk:Clavix2|<font color="Red">TALK TO ME </font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Clavix2|<font color="Black">Things I done </font>]]</sup> 14:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Two Lasers == | == Two Lasers == | ||
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The official name is too long I think we need to shorten it to Galilean Nonlinear Rifle. Do we really need to call articles by their full name. Also,according to the spell check, it's Gal'''ile'''an not Galil'''ei'''an-[[User:Darth Scott|Darth Scott]] 03:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC) | The official name is too long I think we need to shorten it to Galilean Nonlinear Rifle. Do we really need to call articles by their full name. Also,according to the spell check, it's Gal'''ile'''an not Galil'''ei'''an-[[User:Darth Scott|Darth Scott]] 03:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
We call the weapons by their full name, Scott. That's the policy here.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[ | We call the weapons by their full name, Scott. That's the policy here.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[Image:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 03:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Which policy HP:MOS doesn't say it.--[[User:Darth Scott|Darth Scott]] 02:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | :Which policy [[HP:MOS]] doesn't say it.--[[User:Darth Scott|Darth Scott]] 02:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
::There was a policy about it somewhere, but I forgot where. Check with the admins. I know it's a new policy to call weapons by their full name/designation. --[[ | ::There was a policy about it somewhere, but I forgot where. Check with the admins. I know it's a new policy to call weapons by their full name/designation. --[[Image:BR55HB SR Battle Rifle.jpg|50px]] [[User:Blemo|<span style="color: gray; font-family: CarolusRomanFont; font-size: 10pt;">'''Blemo'''</span>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup></small> • <sub><small> [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]]</small></sub> • <sub><small><span class="plainlinks">[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=Blemo+23 <font color="#A9A9A9">SERVICE RECORD</font>]</span></small></sub> • <sub><small><font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="''Loser''. noun -- Anyone that is dumb enough to stare at a message on someone's signature for no apparent reason. You reading this pretty much proves the point.">MESSAGE</span></font></small></sub> 02:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Video-wiki == | == Video-wiki == | ||
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== Nature of Beam Generation === | == Nature of Beam Generation === | ||
"The ability of the Spartan Laser to destroy most vehicles may hint that it fires a directed energy chemical laser, an extremely powerful laser that uses chemical reactions to produce a controlled beam." | "The ability of the Spartan Laser to destroy most vehicles may hint that it fires a directed energy chemical laser, an extremely powerful laser that uses chemical reactions to produce a controlled beam." | ||
This line is nonsensical IMO a laser beam is a laser beam since no matter how you produce it the end product is the same thing a beam of light all lined up and flying in on direction. Its ability to destroy armored vehicles has nothing to do how it produces the beam only with the beams power output. The most powerful lasers of today ''are'' chemical lasers, but that’s mainly because of power and other technical limitations, and most laser envsioned as weapons are expected to be of the solid state or free electron type. This is because a gas or chemical laser just makes a very poor weapons as they require large amounts of highly volatile and toxic chemicals to function which are expended as the weapon fires. | This line is nonsensical IMO a laser beam is a laser beam since no matter how you produce it the end product is the same thing a beam of light all lined up and flying in on direction. Its ability to destroy armored vehicles has nothing to do how it produces the beam only with the beams power output. The most powerful lasers of today ''are'' chemical lasers, but that’s mainly because of power and other technical limitations, and most laser envsioned as weapons are expected to be of the solid state or free electron type. This is because a gas or chemical laser just makes a very poor weapons as they require large amounts of highly volatile and toxic chemicals to function which are expended as the weapon fires. | ||
The Spartan Laser has a “battery” and can be recharged, but no mention is made of replacing gases only recharging the battery. This makes it MUCH more likely in my view that it’s some form of free electronic or solid state laser which uses some type of permanent lasing material and electricity to produce the coherent light beam. With modern power generation a laser of the M6’s power and compact size is unlikely, but we also can’t produce nuclear bombs that crack moons or engines that produce enough thrust to allow something bigger then a Nimitz class aircraft carrier to fly in the atmosphere so such issues are likely of less concern to the UNSC. | The Spartan Laser has a “battery” and can be recharged, but no mention is made of replacing gases only recharging the battery. This makes it MUCH more likely in my view that it’s some form of free electronic or solid state laser which uses some type of permanent lasing material and electricity to produce the coherent light beam. With modern power generation a laser of the M6’s power and compact size is unlikely, but we also can’t produce nuclear bombs that crack moons or engines that produce enough thrust to allow something bigger then a Nimitz class aircraft carrier to fly in the atmosphere so such issues are likely of less concern to the UNSC. | ||
If no one objects I intend to remove it as largely baseless speculation. (and not replace it with my own as neither adds anything to the article and I merely wanted to explain why I think it's wrong.) | If no one objects I intend to remove it as largely baseless speculation. (and not replace it with my own as neither adds anything to the article and I merely wanted to explain why I think it's wrong.) | ||
[[User:TK3997|TK3997]] 19:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | [[User:TK3997|TK3997]] 19:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
I'm pretty sure that it uses [[Wikipedia:Q-switching|Q-switching]]. Interestingly, the Galilean in the name does not refer to Gallileo. It refers to Galilee, a town in what is now Isreal where jesus lived for thirty years. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font> | I'm pretty sure that it uses [[Wikipedia:Q-switching|Q-switching]]. Interestingly, the Galilean in the name does not refer to Gallileo. It refers to Galilee, a town in what is now Isreal where jesus lived for thirty years. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
I'm curious, where do you figure the Galilean in the name refers to the town? Usually, when Bungie makes references, it tends to make some sense. So a town... [[User:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 02:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | I'm curious, where do you figure the Galilean in the name refers to the town? Usually, when Bungie makes references, it tends to make some sense. So a town... [[User:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 02:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
Bungie include a number of biblical references in their games, so i'd imagine that is one of them. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 03:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | Bungie include a number of biblical references in their games, so i'd imagine that is one of them. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 03:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
== 'Nonlinear rifle' == | == 'Nonlinear rifle' == | ||
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Anyone have any idea what "nonlinear rifle" could mean in this context? What's more linear than a laser? --[[User:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 00:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC) | Anyone have any idea what "nonlinear rifle" could mean in this context? What's more linear than a laser? --[[User:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 00:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:It's a misnomer.<div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div>04:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | :It's a misnomer. <div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div> 04:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
== 343 Guilty Spark == | == 343 Guilty Spark == | ||
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I have adjusted this page time and again, and the laser is the ONLY WEAPON that can harm 343 guilty spark in the final level of halo 3. I have tried it on every difficulty and every possible scenario. i have opened up with the rocket launcher and done nothing. i have waited on johnson to blast spark and crack his casing then hit him with the launcher. I have hit spark at every single stage of his health on every single difficulty. ONLY THE SPARTAN LASER WILL KILL HIM! | I have adjusted this page time and again, and the laser is the ONLY WEAPON that can harm 343 guilty spark in the final level of halo 3. I have tried it on every difficulty and every possible scenario. i have opened up with the rocket launcher and done nothing. i have waited on johnson to blast spark and crack his casing then hit him with the launcher. I have hit spark at every single stage of his health on every single difficulty. ONLY THE SPARTAN LASER WILL KILL HIM! | ||
-SuperMac | -SuperMac | ||
:I have killed him with the rocket launcher. --[[User:Lt. Commander|<font color="Black">'''Lieutenant''' </font>]][[User talk:Lt. Commander|<font color="Silver">Commander</font>]] | :I have killed him with the rocket launcher. --[[User:Lt. Commander|<font color="Black">'''Lieutenant''' </font>''']][[User talk:Lt. Commander|<font color="Silver">'''Commander'''</font>]] 03:04, 21 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
Pics or it didn't happen. | Pics or it didn't happen. | ||
Firing 105 battle rifle shots will crack his shell, but you probably cant find more ammo for it, so you can only damage 343.[[User:PsychoThunder]] | Firing 105 battle rifle shots will crack his shell, but you probably cant find more ammo for it, so you can only damage 343.[[User:PsychoThunder]] | ||
==Someone survived 4 shots== | ==Someone survived 4 shots== | ||
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OK, I know the beam goes on almost forever (right?) but still, what are you going to do, snipe a moving target with that from across the field? i think not, the great thing about any sniper rifle is it can shoot at a seconds notice, but the Laser, try 3 or 4 if you're quick, and it could give away a good sniping position virtually saying "Herez i iz,c0me an kill meh!" I know the sniper leaves a vapor trail, but its better than a big red glow. so, I don't really think that the Spartan Laser is a good sniping weapons, except ''maybe'' against a large vehicle like an <strike>elephant</strike>, scorp. et. [[User talk:L33tmcphee|L33tmcphee]] 22:22, December 13, 2009 (UTC) | OK, I know the beam goes on almost forever (right?) but still, what are you going to do, snipe a moving target with that from across the field? i think not, the great thing about any sniper rifle is it can shoot at a seconds notice, but the Laser, try 3 or 4 if you're quick, and it could give away a good sniping position virtually saying "Herez i iz,c0me an kill meh!" I know the sniper leaves a vapor trail, but its better than a big red glow. so, I don't really think that the Spartan Laser is a good sniping weapons, except ''maybe'' against a large vehicle like an <strike>elephant</strike>, scorp. et. [[User talk:L33tmcphee|L33tmcphee]] 22:22, December 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Spartan Laser == | == Spartan Laser == | ||
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That can't be the reason, as the weapon is only a little heavier than two loaded M249's(M249 loaded ~ 20 lbs.; an average Marine [in reality] is usually packing well over a hundred pounds during long-term autonomous field operations) and LASERS DO NOT RECOIL. THEY'RE NOT FIRING A PHYSICAL OBJECT FOR F*CK'S SAKE!!! WHY DID BUNGIE MAKE IT RECOIL??? | That can't be the reason, as the weapon is only a little heavier than two loaded M249's(M249 loaded ~ 20 lbs.; an average Marine [in reality] is usually packing well over a hundred pounds during long-term autonomous field operations) and LASERS DO NOT RECOIL. THEY'RE NOT FIRING A PHYSICAL OBJECT FOR F*CK'S SAKE!!! WHY DID BUNGIE MAKE IT RECOIL??? | ||
It isn't recoil, its just the shock that it releases that mae it seem to move backwards. It seems to recoil just because the wielder's anatomy makes it difficult to take the laser's backfire. A recoil doesn't come from projectile, it comes from HEAT. | It isn't recoil, its just the shock that it releases that mae it seem to move backwards. It seems to recoil just because the wielder's anatomy makes it difficult to take the laser's backfire. A recoil doesn't come from projectile, it comes from HEAT. | ||
Ever fired a real gun? Even a B.B. gun? Maybe a paintball gun? All of those have recoil. Recoil does not come from heat. Recoil is the equal and opposite reaction of a controlled explosion propelling a projectile from a weapon. [[User talk:Griever0311|Griever0311]] 11:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC) | Ever fired a real gun? Even a B.B. gun? Maybe a paintball gun? All of those have recoil. Recoil does not come from heat. Recoil is the equal and opposite reaction of a controlled explosion propelling a projectile from a weapon. [[User talk:Griever0311|Griever0311]] 11:25, 29 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
OMG, Bungie is a ''video game designer, not'' some milsim gaming sort of a thing, they don't go over things like that, and the main reason is probably people like you, who spend there life trying to find ways to criticize people who make a good game. And, I bet if Bungie took away recoil, people would probably find some way to complain about that to, just leave those 7-lovers alone, god. [[User talk:L33tmcphee|L33tmcphee]] 22:32, December 13, 2009 (UTC) | OMG, Bungie is a ''video game designer, not'' some milsim gaming sort of a thing, they don't go over things like that, and the main reason is probably people like you, who spend there life trying to find ways to criticize people who make a good game. And, I bet if Bungie took away recoil, people would probably find some way to complain about that to, just leave those 7-lovers alone, god. [[User talk:L33tmcphee|L33tmcphee]] 22:32, December 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Spartan Laser in Diorama== | == Spartan Laser in Diorama== | ||
I have found not one, but two spartan lasers in the believe diorama. One is held by a marine, the other is lying on the ground. Check out these pictures, I need conformation. | I have found not one, but two spartan lasers in the believe diorama. One is held by a marine, the other is lying on the ground. Check out these pictures, I need conformation. | ||
[[ | [[Image:Dioramaspartanlaser.jpg|thumb]] | ||
[[ | [[Image:Dioramaspartanlaser2.jpg|thumb]] | ||
:Yep those are Spartan Lasers alight but they seem kind of undersized as in Halo 3 they are supposed to be shoulder-mounted but the soldier is carrying it like an [[Assault Rifle]]. But yeah they are Spartan Lasers--[[User talk:Ashing shot|ASEC]] 06:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC) | :Yep those are Spartan Lasers alight but they seem kind of undersized as in Halo 3 they are supposed to be shoulder-mounted but the soldier is carrying it like an [[Assault Rifle]]. But yeah they are Spartan Lasers--[[User talk:Ashing shot|ASEC]] 06:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Template== | ==Template== | ||
Fixed the weapon info in article, it was, rather whacky. looks fine now. Also moved the quote template below the weapon template cause i know on another wiki having the quote above an infobox can cause unusual things. [[ | Fixed the weapon info in article, it was, rather whacky. looks fine now. Also moved the quote template below the weapon template cause i know on another wiki having the quote above an infobox can cause unusual things. [[image:VINCENT-SIG.png]] 02:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Nonlinear? == | == Nonlinear? == | ||
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It's called that because Bungie didn't read the primer on how give military weapons realistic nomenclature, correct operation, or true-to-form function. This weapon would realistically be called a linear anti-armor directed energy weapon, much like the RAVEN device is an explosive-disruptive DEW. Non-linear calls to mind one of several sonic-based crowd-suppression DEWs currently under trials and development. [[User talk:Griever0311|Griever0311]] 05:43, 2 April 2009 (UTC) US MARINE | It's called that because Bungie didn't read the primer on how give military weapons realistic nomenclature, correct operation, or true-to-form function. This weapon would realistically be called a linear anti-armor directed energy weapon, much like the RAVEN device is an explosive-disruptive DEW. Non-linear calls to mind one of several sonic-based crowd-suppression DEWs currently under trials and development. [[User talk:Griever0311|Griever0311]] 05:43, 2 April 2009 (UTC) US MARINE | ||
:Actually, a "line" in geometric terms is exactly the same as the laser except for one difference, a line in geometry does have a beginning or an end. The laser has both of these. | :Actually, a "line" in geometric terms is exactly the same as the laser except for one difference, a line in geometry does have a beginning or an end. The laser has both of these. {{Signature/Ghost sangheili}} | ||
==Rename== | ==Rename== | ||
Did everybody understand the reason I put this on renaming voting, or it's clear? - JEA13 | Did everybody understand the reason I put this on renaming voting, or it's clear? - {{JEA13/Sig}} | ||
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:Get it? - JEA13 | :Get it? - {{JEA13/Sig}} | ||
{{Support}} - I suppose. —[[User:Kougermasters|<font color="blue">'''K'''</font><font color="black">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''u'''</font><font color="black">'''g'''</font><font color="blue">'''e'''</font><font color="black">'''r'''</font><font color="blue">'''m'''</font><font color="black">'''a'''</font><font color="blue">'''s'''</font><font color="black">'''t'''</font><font color="blue">'''e'''</font><font color="black">'''r'''</font><font color="blue">'''s'''</font>]] 05:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC) | {{Support}} - I suppose. —[[User:Kougermasters|<font color="blue">'''K'''</font><font color="black">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''u'''</font><font color="black">'''g'''</font><font color="blue">'''e'''</font><font color="black">'''r'''</font><font color="blue">'''m'''</font><font color="black">'''a'''</font><font color="blue">'''s'''</font><font color="black">'''t'''</font><font color="blue">'''e'''</font><font color="black">'''r'''</font><font color="blue">'''s'''</font>]] 05:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
{{Support}} As per your reason. [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="font-weight:bold; color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman"><sup>Nicmavr</sup></span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Nicmavr|<span style="font-weight:bold; color: maroon; font-family:Papyrus">Concorde</span>]] [[ | {{Support}} As per your reason. [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="font-weight:bold; color:Navy; font-family:Times New Roman"><sup>Nicmavr</sup></span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Nicmavr|<span style="font-weight:bold; color: maroon; font-family:Papyrus">Concorde</span>]] [[Image:Concorde.jpeg|14px]] [[User talk:Nicmavr|<span style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Algerian; color: Black"><sub>Take Off</sub></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Nicmavr|<span style="font-weight:bold; color:Goldenrod; font-family:Algerian"><sup>Speed of sound!</sup></span>]] 13:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
{{Support}} Do it. | {{Support}} Do it. <div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div> 04:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
<div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div>04:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
{{Support}}--<tt><sup><font color="#7BA05B">[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]</font></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|<font color="#4B5320"><font size="5">53</font></font>]]</tt> 04:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC) | {{Support}}--<tt><sup><font color="#7BA05B">[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]</font></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|<font color="#4B5320"><font size="5">53</font></font>]]</tt> 04:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
Please remember that [[Halopedia: | Please remember that [[Halopedia:What_Halopedia_is_not#Halopedia_is_not_a_democracy|Halopedia is not a democracy]]. We are reviewing on this issue.-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:The [[Template:Title]] would remind visitors and users that the title appears incorrectly because of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_name technical restrictions], thus solving this minor problems. In my opinion, having <code><[[Weapon]]</code> is not a significant problem to the article itself; it doesn't ruin the article's quality or readability and users/visitors could always click on it to review other weapons.-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC) | :The [[Template:Title]] would remind visitors and users that the title appears incorrectly because of [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Page_name technical restrictions], thus solving this minor problems. In my opinion, having <code><[[Weapon]]</code> is not a significant problem to the article itself; it doesn't ruin the article's quality or readability and users/visitors could always click on it to review other weapons.-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
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== Glitch == | == Glitch == | ||
"There is a glitch in multiplayer where the laser will shoot 3 beams but use the energy of one."- this is quoted from a particular user regarding the triva of the spartan laser. | "There is a glitch in multiplayer where the laser will shoot 3 beams but use the energy of one."- this is quoted from a particular user regarding the triva of the spartan laser. | ||
Can anyone prove this with a video clip or someting?? | Can anyone prove this with a video clip or someting?? | ||
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Or just disregard it? | Or just disregard it? | ||
Sub-71 09:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC) | {{User:Sub-71/Sig}} 09:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
i agree [[User talk:Galacticdominator|Galacticdominator]] 01:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC) | i agree [[User talk:Galacticdominator|Galacticdominator]] 01:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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== Particle beam Weapon == | == Particle beam Weapon == | ||
{{Quote|Others have suggested that it fires a Particle Beam, similar to the [[Particle Beam Rifle]] used by the Covenant.|Some idiot}} | |||
I'm getting pretty sick of having to remove this kind of crap. The weapon is a laser, yet people insist on adding speculative alternative types of DEW. While we don't yet know exactly what type of laser it is, how it operates, or what wavelengths it uses or its power requirements, we know for a FACT that is IS a laser. Anything else is fanon. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 03:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
Good thing I happen to come across it, first of all you don't you seem to understand that there are different TYPES of lasers. Now we do not know what exact energy it fires which is why it is '''noted as such'''. | :I agree. This page may soon become subjected to [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Edit war|edit war]]. It probably needs protection. With truth, [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925; font-family: georgia, times">'''Jora 'Mantak'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<spProxy-Connection: keep-alive | ||
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Good thing I happen to come across it, first of all you don't you seem to understand that there are different TYPES of lasers. Now we do not know what exact energy it fires which is why it is '''noted as such'''. | |||
Having had a considerable time to ponder what perhaps the M6 does fire, the most logical conclusion and considering I have questioned this particular thing to several individuals who are more knowledgeable on physics then myself have said that it could be a particle beam weapon. | Having had a considerable time to ponder what perhaps the M6 does fire, the most logical conclusion and considering I have questioned this particular thing to several individuals who are more knowledgeable on physics then myself have said that it could be a particle beam weapon. | ||
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Also how a Particle Beam Weapon works is as follows: "Though particle beams are perhaps most famously employed as weapon systems in science fiction, the U.S. Advanced Research Projects Agency started work on particle beam weapons as early as 1958, two years before the first scientific demonstration of lasers. The general idea of particle-beam weaponry is to hit a target object with a stream of accelerated particles moving at near the speed of light and therefore carrying tremendous kinetic energy; the particles transfer their kinetic energy to the atoms in the molecules of the target upon striking, much as a cue ball transfers its energy to the racked balls in billiards, thus exciting the target's atoms and superheating the target object in a short time, leading to explosion either of the surface layer or the interior of the target. Currently, the materials for such weapons are "high-risk" and may not be developed for some time" | Also how a Particle Beam Weapon works is as follows: "Though particle beams are perhaps most famously employed as weapon systems in science fiction, the U.S. Advanced Research Projects Agency started work on particle beam weapons as early as 1958, two years before the first scientific demonstration of lasers. The general idea of particle-beam weaponry is to hit a target object with a stream of accelerated particles moving at near the speed of light and therefore carrying tremendous kinetic energy; the particles transfer their kinetic energy to the atoms in the molecules of the target upon striking, much as a cue ball transfers its energy to the racked balls in billiards, thus exciting the target's atoms and superheating the target object in a short time, leading to explosion either of the surface layer or the interior of the target. Currently, the materials for such weapons are "high-risk" and may not be developed for some time" | ||
That is is exactly how the Galilean works, even the name Galilean relates to the Galilean transformation which partly deals with Particle Physics, which would mean the if you were to take a logical common sense guess as to what it would fire, it would be a Particle Beam. Nothing else has as much effective destructive force as a Particle Beam. | That is is exactly how the Galilean works, even the name Galilean relates to the Galilean transformation which partly deals with Particle Physics, which would mean the if you were to take a logical common sense guess as to what it would fire, it would be a Particle Beam. Nothing else has as much effective destructive force as a Particle Beam. | ||
Now another thing you seem to jump the gun on is the fact that it is really not part of the article itself and is in the trivia section which is more open to questioning and such, the way it was worded was to take into account both the previous theory of it being a chemical laser, which mind you was actually part of the article longer then my theory of it being a particle beam was, and mine, it is simply there as a means for discussion or perhaps pondering. It is NOT there to definitively say it is or isn't. | Now another thing you seem to jump the gun on is the fact that it is really not part of the article itself and is in the trivia section which is more open to questioning and such, the way it was worded was to take into account both the previous theory of it being a chemical laser, which mind you was actually part of the article longer then my theory of it being a particle beam was, and mine, it is simply there as a means for discussion or perhaps pondering. It is NOT there to definitively say it is or isn't. | ||
I hope this has been enlightening to you, and I hope you will take more careful consideration before blowing up and removing something you may not understand. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 04:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | I hope this has been enlightening to you, and I hope you will take more careful consideration before blowing up and removing something you may not understand. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 04:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:That would be more similar to a plasma weapon than to a laser weapon. Plasma is simply ionized gas--if focused into a beam, it becomes a particle beam. With truth, [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925; font-family: georgia, times">'''Jora 'Mantak (Echo 9 2)'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<span style = "color:#5D1A39; font-family: georgia, times">Battlenet</span>]]-[http:// | :That would be more similar to a plasma weapon than to a laser weapon. Plasma is simply ionized gas--if focused into a beam, it becomes a particle beam. With truth, [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925; font-family: georgia, times">'''Jora 'Mantak (Echo 9 2)'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<span style = "color:#5D1A39; font-family: georgia, times">Battlenet</span>]]-[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_profile:An_elite_%2792 <span style = "color:#B7608A; font-family: georgia, times">Brothers</span>]-[[Special:Contributions/An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#CCCCCC; font-family: georgia, times">Combat History</span>]]-- 20:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
My apologies. I'm not a physicist, and believed the two distinct enough for it to matter. Thank you for setting me straight. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 21:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | My apologies. I'm not a physicist, and believed the two distinct enough for it to matter. Thank you for setting me straight. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 21:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
Hey, mistakes happen, I'm glad I was able to help out and make things clearer. Coming back to this with what I know and understand I'd like to clarify something. First Jora(Elite 92, whatever) I wouldn't definitively say Particle Acceleration is just Plasma focused into a beam. From what I understand, Particle Acceleration deals with electrically-charged Elementary particles being propelled to high speeds. Much different then ionizing gas. You can think of Plasma (in how it destroys something) like fire, it does it from the outside and works its way in. Particle Beams, in a destructive way works like (and I'm sorry I cannot think of a better analogy for the moment) filling up a water balloon until it pops. It all happens from the inside out. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 05:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC) | Hey, mistakes happen, I'm glad I was able to help out and make things clearer. Coming back to this with what I know and understand I'd like to clarify something. First Jora(Elite 92, whatever) I wouldn't definitively say Particle Acceleration is just Plasma focused into a beam. From what I understand, Particle Acceleration deals with electrically-charged Elementary particles being propelled to high speeds. Much different then ionizing gas. You can think of Plasma (in how it destroys something) like fire, it does it from the outside and works its way in. Particle Beams, in a destructive way works like (and I'm sorry I cannot think of a better analogy for the moment) filling up a water balloon until it pops. It all happens from the inside out. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 05:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
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::''Halopedia is not a forum'' | ::''Halopedia is not a forum'' | ||
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What?[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 19:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | What?[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 19:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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That is my argument for now. If anyone can find a link to a reliable source that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Spartan Laser was rushed into service for the Second Battle of Earth, I will happily back down. [[Special:Contributions:72.196.207.203|Contributions:72.196.207.203]] 04:33, 01:37, 24 June 2009 | That is my argument for now. If anyone can find a link to a reliable source that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Spartan Laser was rushed into service for the Second Battle of Earth, I will happily back down. [[Special:Contributions:72.196.207.203|Contributions:72.196.207.203]] 04:33, 01:37, 24 June 2009 | ||
::First off this has to be the most uninformed argument I have seen. No one has ever stated that the M6 was "rushed" into production. The technology most likely has been around for the course of the war but it has only very recently been deployed. Also this insult of calling the novels some sort of expanded universe is down right laughable. First of all the novels are not part of expanded anything, nor are they "considered" canon, they are canon. Things may be tweaked, or modified, but everything is still part of the canon. | ::First off this has to be the most uninformed argument I have seen. No one has ever stated that the M6 was "rushed" into production. The technology most likely has been around for the course of the war but it has only very recently been deployed. Also this insult of calling the novels some sort of expanded universe is down right laughable. First of all the novels are not part of expanded anything, nor are they "considered" canon, they are canon. Things may be tweaked, or modified, but everything is still part of the canon. | ||
:Every element for the story of Halo has been there since the beginning, some items like weapons, vehicles, may not make it in one game, but is always somehow refined, tweaked and re used fr later games. For example the M6 Galilean was originally modeled and tested for Halo 2, it was not planned on being in the game, but the work done on it then paved the way for its inclusion in Halo 3. And every time something new is created, a long process of tying it into canon is done in order to ensure that everything fits perfectly. | :Every element for the story of Halo has been there since the beginning, some items like weapons, vehicles, may not make it in one game, but is always somehow refined, tweaked and re used fr later games. For example the M6 Galilean was originally modeled and tested for Halo 2, it was not planned on being in the game, but the work done on it then paved the way for its inclusion in Halo 3. And every time something new is created, a long process of tying it into canon is done in order to ensure that everything fits perfectly. | ||
:As for its late appearance it is the most logical conclusion when you consider that if the M6 has been on the field for such an extensive amount of time, that at some point someone would try to mount a more powerful version on a UNSC warship, that type of firepower would change the course of the war, and give humans the upper hand in space battles against the Covenant. The UNSC would do everything in their power to make it work, the lives it could save, the battles they could win would justify the cost. | :As for its late appearance it is the most logical conclusion when you consider that if the M6 has been on the field for such an extensive amount of time, that at some point someone would try to mount a more powerful version on a UNSC warship, that type of firepower would change the course of the war, and give humans the upper hand in space battles against the Covenant. The UNSC would do everything in their power to make it work, the lives it could save, the battles they could win would justify the cost. | ||
:Because they have not means that the technology simply wasn't there yet, and by the time it is, we are already near the end of the war. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 07:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC) | :Because they have not means that the technology simply wasn't there yet, and by the time it is, we are already near the end of the war. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 07:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::Please indent your comments by prefixing each line with a colon (:). This makes it easier to distinguish a really long comment from its really long reply. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 04:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC) | :::Please indent your comments by prefixing each line with a colon (:). This makes it easier to distinguish a really long comment from its really long reply. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 04:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::Sorry for irking you, Durandal; I was only attempting to respond in a thoughtful way to Andrew Nagy's above request for a link. He was attempting to find an original Bungie flavor text that specifically mentioned the Spartan Laser as being rushed into production (his words) or at least placed on the assembly line at the very end of the Great War. I simply explained why he might not be able to find such a link. By saying that the books are considered canon by Bungie (the ultimate authority on all things Halo), I simply meant that it was canon; at the end of the day, what Bungie says goes. I meant what I said in a positive context,and I apologize for not wording more carefully and accidentally leaving paths open for misinterpretation. I have also deleted the misplaced title and put our conversation under the proper heading. | ::::Sorry for irking you, Durandal; I was only attempting to respond in a thoughtful way to Andrew Nagy's above request for a link. He was attempting to find an original Bungie flavor text that specifically mentioned the Spartan Laser as being rushed into production (his words) or at least placed on the assembly line at the very end of the Great War. I simply explained why he might not be able to find such a link. By saying that the books are considered canon by Bungie (the ultimate authority on all things Halo), I simply meant that it was canon; at the end of the day, what Bungie says goes. I meant what I said in a positive context,and I apologize for not wording more carefully and accidentally leaving paths open for misinterpretation. I have also deleted the misplaced title and put our conversation under the proper heading. | ||
::::We already know that laser emitters are mounted on ONI Prowlers; not to mention that ONI keeps many secret programs permanently hidden from the the public eye (Spartan III's would be a very good example of this). ONI could have possibly mounted military grade lasers on warships as a black operations project, kept secret by ONI for assorted reasons. Perhaps like the Spartan III's, they were used for suicide missions against Covenant targets, or were kept secret in order to ambush Covenant fleets (the Unggoy are known for monitoring human transmissions). This could be revealed later by Bungie in a book or game...but really this is all speculation until Bungie says this or something similar is so. | ::::We already know that laser emitters are mounted on ONI Prowlers; not to mention that ONI keeps many secret programs permanently hidden from the the public eye (Spartan III's would be a very good example of this). ONI could have possibly mounted military grade lasers on warships as a black operations project, kept secret by ONI for assorted reasons. Perhaps like the Spartan III's, they were used for suicide missions against Covenant targets, or were kept secret in order to ambush Covenant fleets (the Unggoy are known for monitoring human transmissions). This could be revealed later by Bungie in a book or game...but really this is all speculation until Bungie says this or something similar is so. | ||
::::I concede that Ensemble screwed up in a few places, but I'm confident that Bungie will eventually tie up the loose ends concerning Halo Wars. You also appear from your contributions to other conversations on this page to be the resident expert, and I once again apologize for drawing your fire on something so trivial. | ::::I concede that Ensemble screwed up in a few places, but I'm confident that Bungie will eventually tie up the loose ends concerning Halo Wars. You also appear from your contributions to other conversations on this page to be the resident expert, and I once again apologize for drawing your fire on something so trivial. | ||
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Why is every "laser" word in this article in all caps? Is it supposed to be like that or did someone mess with the article? [[User talk:General Heed|General Heed]] 19:53, November 27, 2009 (UTC) | Why is every "laser" word in this article in all caps? Is it supposed to be like that or did someone mess with the article? [[User talk:General Heed|General Heed]] 19:53, November 27, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:While I recognize that the word "laser" is an acronym just like radar, sonar, etc. the wikipedia article does not capitalize every use of the word laser on neither the laser article nor laser related articles. The same is true for sonar and radar. So if you want it to be grammatically correct, you don't capitalize every single one. | :While I recognize that the word "laser" is an acronym just like radar, sonar, etc. the wikipedia article does not capitalize every use of the word laser on neither the laser article nor laser related articles. The same is true for sonar and radar. So if you want it to be grammatically correct, you don't capitalize every single one. {{Signature/Ghost sangheili}} | ||
:It means there's a sloppy editor on Wikipedia that needs to be cleaned up then. [[User talk:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 21:34, November 27, 2009 (UTC) | :It means there's a sloppy editor on Wikipedia that needs to be cleaned up then. [[User talk:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 21:34, November 27, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::I've looked this up in both online and print dictionaries. The original word was "LASER", however spelling it "laser" became acceptable to the point where it is now more common a spelling than the original word, in part due to the fact that it simply looks better in print. Writing "LASER" over and over again in our article really doesn't look good at all.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 22:27, November 27, 2009 (UTC) | ::I've looked this up in both online and print dictionaries. The original word was "LASER", however spelling it "laser" became acceptable to the point where it is now more common a spelling than the original word, in part due to the fact that it simply looks better in print. Writing "LASER" over and over again in our article really doesn't look good at all.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 22:27, November 27, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::As per above. Seeing "LASER" twenty times on a single page makes my eyes bleed. --<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 02:41, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | ::As per above. Seeing "LASER" twenty times on a single page makes my eyes bleed. --[[File:Colonel Grade One.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 02:41, December 2, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Not Laser? == | == Not Laser? == | ||
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::Unless theres clear proof someone should remove the Spartan laser from the list (It's not in the MP trailer neither) [[User:Tmek|<font color="00FF00">TMek7</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tmek|<font color="FF0000">Leader of Team 42</font>]]</sup> 21:03, March 22, 2010 (UTC) | ::Unless theres clear proof someone should remove the Spartan laser from the list (It's not in the MP trailer neither) [[User:Tmek|<font color="00FF00">TMek7</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tmek|<font color="FF0000">Leader of Team 42</font>]]</sup> 21:03, March 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::It's in the game, | ::It's in the game, image: [[File:Galilean Nonlinear Rifle Halo Reach.jpg|50px]]. There's one interesting thing here too. The Halo 3 laser's designation is "Model 6". The number on the side of the Halo: Reach laser is 8. Does this mean it's a more advanced model, e.g. Model 8? It certainly looks different. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 19:55, March 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::It means that it's an later model than the one used in Halo 3, it might use some different principals, etc, but the only information that has been released regarding the changes is that it has four shots rather than five.[[User talk:Warhead xTEAMx|Warhead xTEAMx]] 13:12, April 8, 2010 (UTC) | :::It means that it's an later model than the one used in Halo 3, it might use some different principals, etc, but the only information that has been released regarding the changes is that it has four shots rather than five.[[User talk:Warhead xTEAMx|Warhead xTEAMx]] 13:12, April 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==New picture== | ==New picture== | ||
The current picture is of the Halo Reach Spartan Laser, which is technically the Model 8, rather than the model 6, which this article is about. We don't know about the technical information about the Halo Reach variant, however trivial the differences are, but it's not the same. As such, the picture in this article should be of the Halo 3 Splaser. ~~ | The current picture is of the Halo Reach Spartan Laser, which is technically the Model 8, rather than the model 6, which this article is about. We don't know about the technical information about the Halo Reach variant, however trivial the differences are, but it's not the same. As such, the picture in this article should be of the Halo 3 Splaser. ~~ | ||
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::We do have information on it, and that information tells us that its largely unchanged except it now has four shots rather than 5. That's it. Its is practically the same thing. The image stays. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 17:55, April 8, 2010 (UTC) | ::We do have information on it, and that information tells us that its largely unchanged except it now has four shots rather than 5. That's it. Its is practically the same thing. The image stays. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 17:55, April 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Fine, but the image is not of the model 6, just to be nit-picker. [[User talk:Warhead xTEAMx|Warhead xTEAMx]] 18:47, April 8, 2010 (UTC) | :::Fine, but the image is not of the model 6, just to be nit-picker. [[User talk:Warhead xTEAMx|Warhead xTEAMx]] 18:47, April 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||