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Now just replace every instance of “planet” with “Kelly” and you get the basic idea. So it’s not violation of the speculation protocol but rather just notating a important issue.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''Tuckerscreator''']] 05:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
Now just replace every instance of “planet” with “Kelly” and you get the basic idea. So it’s not violation of the speculation protocol but rather just notating a important issue.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''Tuckerscreator''']] 05:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


:::I must say Tucker, you prove some very good points. I'm in favor of adding this little dose of speculation, for the numerous reasons above, but just not to get ''too'' speculative. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 18:53, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
:::I must say Tucker, you prove some very good points. I'm in favor of adding this little dose of speculation, for the numerous reasons above, but just not to get ''too'' speculative. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 18:53, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


::::It has been established that the children at the start are there ''"for your interpretation."'' That being said, there is no definite answer to who they are. For more, [http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=9321343 read this].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
::::It has been established that the children at the start are there ''"for your interpretation."'' That being said, there is no definite answer to who they are. For more, [http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=9321343 read this].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
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:It is a possibility but that's the main reason why they made the trailer that way.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:36, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
:It is a possibility but that's the main reason why they made the trailer that way.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:36, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


::Okay before I begin, it's spelled "Subtank", and my name is "Halo-343". Well, I don't think there is a green light to restore it right now, unless Subtank changes her mind. Leave it for the Talk Page for now I'd say, to be safe. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 00:33, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
::Okay before I begin, it's spelled "Subtank", and my name is "Halo-343". Well, I don't think there is a green light to restore it right now, unless Subtank changes her mind. Leave it for the Talk Page for now I'd say, to be safe. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 00:33, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


:::If we apply the rule of common sense here, you will understand why this fails and Subbles is right. The developers of the commercial said it is up to the viewers' interpretation and who are we to argue with that? Watch the Developer's analysis of Starry Night.--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 00:46, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
:::If we apply the rule of common sense here, you will understand why this fails and Subbles is right. The developers of the commercial said it is up to the viewers' interpretation and who are we to argue with that? Watch the Developer's analysis of Starry Night.--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 00:46, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
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[[User talk:Lauren Spartan177|Lauren Spartan177]] 22:03, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
[[User talk:Lauren Spartan177|Lauren Spartan177]] 22:03, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


:Her hair looks red at some parts, but is brunette. And it's '''''definitely''''' Kelly, seeing as she's referred to by that name several times during the short and promotional material. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:37, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
:Her hair looks red at some parts, but is brunette. And it's '''''definitely''''' Kelly, seeing as she's referred to by that name several times during the short and promotional material. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:37, December 12, 2009 (UTC)


== Yep ==
== Yep ==
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==Forward Unto Dawn==
==Forward Unto Dawn==


Since Fred and Kelly are confirmed for Forward Unto Dawn. Should the character profile picture be updated to a live action picture once an appropriate screen capture becomes available?{{Unsigned|Manwiththegun}}
Since Fred and Kelly are confirmed for Forward Unto Dawn. Should the character profile picture be updated to a live action picture once an appropriate screen capture becomes available?{{Unsigned|‎Manwiththegun}}
:Doubt it. The pictures we have are of ''The Package'', while FuD occurs before it. Ideally, the images shown should be the latest chronologically.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 01:49, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
:Doubt it. The pictures we have are of ''The Package'', while FuD occurs before it. Ideally, the images shown should be the latest chronologically.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 01:49, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
Recentness versus detail. On [[Activation Index]] we chose to use the less recent image because it shows more detail. Now, a live action photo compared to a (canon-loose) CGI cartoon... [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:07, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
Recentness versus detail. On [[Activation Index]] we chose to use the less recent image because it shows more detail. Now, a live action photo compared to a (canon-loose) CGI cartoon... [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:07, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
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::It sounds like borderline sexism to assume that it's the AA helmet merely because she's female. But Fred's helmet was a distinct likeness of the Mark V(B) helmet, while on the other hand Kelly's helmet appeared to be somewhat of an earlier AA helmet model. I, personally are more concerned over the armour they appear to be wearing. It looks very much like the first generation of the MJOLNIR Mark V armour from Halo: Reach. I want to know why these particular Spartans are wearing armour that will not be developed for another 25 years. But, that's probably a discussion made for another talk page. - TheGutsyChipmunk 09:25, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
::It sounds like borderline sexism to assume that it's the AA helmet merely because she's female. But Fred's helmet was a distinct likeness of the Mark V(B) helmet, while on the other hand Kelly's helmet appeared to be somewhat of an earlier AA helmet model. I, personally are more concerned over the armour they appear to be wearing. It looks very much like the first generation of the MJOLNIR Mark V armour from Halo: Reach. I want to know why these particular Spartans are wearing armour that will not be developed for another 25 years. But, that's probably a discussion made for another talk page. - TheGutsyChipmunk 09:25, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:::Actually, [[Talk:MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mark_IV#Mark_IV|the Mark V in ''Reach'' can also be considered the Mark IV]]. Mark V is simply the Mark IV with a working shielding system. The real question is why there is no consistent external design. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:::Actually, [[Talk:MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mark_IV#Mark_IV|the Mark V in ''Reach'' can also be considered the Mark IV]]. Mark V is simply the Mark IV with a working shielding system. The real question is why there is no consistent external design. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
::::That's artistic license for ya.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 09:41, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
::::That's artistic license for ya.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 09:41, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
The Air Assault helmet wouldn't be introduced until 2535, but I suppose it could be an early prototype. However, I find it hard to look past the plating on her helmet's chin and forehead. Kat's helmet wasn't all the producers repurposed. [[:File:FJ-PARAKnee.png|Do the pieces look familiar?]] --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 14:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
The Air Assault helmet wouldn't be introduced until 2535, but I suppose it could be an early prototype. However, I find it hard to look past the plating on her helmet's chin and forehead. Kat's helmet wasn't all the producers repurposed. [[:File:FJ-PARAKnee.png|Do the pieces look familiar?]] --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 14:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:That's... quite a surprise to see that... repurposed. Perhaps Kelly is related to [https://twitter.com/MartyTheElder/status/238880836995399680 Kneeman]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:05, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:That's... quite a surprise to see that... repurposed. Perhaps Kelly is related to [https://twitter.com/MartyTheElder/status/238880836995399680 Kneeman]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:05, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
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::The conclusion I came to as soon as I saw both of them is that Fred and Kelly's suits are the same as Thom and Kat's suits used filming the Reach trailer, just with a few details changed, like the mouth piece, as well as a new paint job. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:11, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
::The conclusion I came to as soon as I saw both of them is that Fred and Kelly's suits are the same as Thom and Kat's suits used filming the Reach trailer, just with a few details changed, like the mouth piece, as well as a new paint job. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:11, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
:::343i and co failed if fans became confused or arrived at different conclusions. I'm disappointed. -- TheGutsyChipmunk 09:45, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
:::343i and co failed if fans became confused or arrived at different conclusions. I'm disappointed. -- TheGutsyChipmunk 09:45, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
== Date of Birth ==
So, Halo Waypoint says she was born in 2510 and that site is basically as official as it gets...so shouldn't her date of birth be changed to that? [[User:TheArb1ter117|TheArb1ter117]] ([[User talk:TheArb1ter117|talk]]) 22:09, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
No, Waypoint is wrong. In Halsey's journal Kelly's birthday was first established as being in September, but when her entry was written for Waypoint it said "June 21st, 2511". This contradiction was pointed out to 343 and her birthdate was then adjusted on Waypoint to September 15th, but in the process the year also got changed to 2510. This issue has been brought to Jeff Easterling's attention and he'd acknowledged it is still listed inaccurately on there and said it would be fixed (though that never happened).[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 22:16, September 20, 2019 (EDT)TheEld

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