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== should it be included? == | == should it be included? == | ||
[[Image:Kelly Spartan087.jpg|thumb|it is fan art but would really liven up the dull article. -- [[User:Swearingmonk]] 21:58, 22 December 2006]] | |||
damn thats good, although Kelly did not have Grey hair --[[User:UNSC AI|UNSC AI]] 02:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC) | damn thats good, although Kelly did not have Grey hair --[[User:UNSC AI|UNSC AI]] 02:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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:Agreed, it makes her look like an old granny. -[[User:ED|ED]] 21:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | :Agreed, it makes her look like an old granny. -[[User:ED|ED]] 21:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
Image:Kelly-087.jpg|thumb|Kelly with her true blue hair. | [[Image:Kelly-087.jpg|thumb|Kelly with her true blue hair.]] | ||
How bout this one I posted? I think its a lot better. It shows her with the blue hair she is supposed to have. | How bout this one I posted? I think its a lot better. It shows her with the blue hair she is supposed to have. | ||
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She only had blue hair when she first arrived on reach because she'd dyed it, she has brown hair, which is usually very short anyway. | She only had blue hair when she first arrived on reach because she'd dyed it, she has brown hair, which is usually very short anyway. | ||
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:Right at the start. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 01:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | :Right at the start. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 01:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
To be honest, the whole introduction sounds like a rant about the trailer. I'm cutting it down - the speculation might need its own section. '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' | To be honest, the whole introduction sounds like a rant about the trailer. I'm cutting it down - the speculation might need its own section. '''Honour Light Your Way - '''[[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 03:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
This trailer was one of the first Halo 3 trailers i had seen, i had an idea that it might be spartan 117 and maybe another spartan while beeing trained on planet Reach, but this was an idea because i had just read some of the Halo novels. when at the start are they wearing naval uniforms?, or is it just what they are wearing when talking at the beginning? ...--[[User:78.150.170.23|78.150.170.23]] 18:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC) | This trailer was one of the first Halo 3 trailers i had seen, i had an idea that it might be spartan 117 and maybe another spartan while beeing trained on planet Reach, but this was an idea because i had just read some of the Halo novels. when at the start are they wearing naval uniforms?, or is it just what they are wearing when talking at the beginning? ...--[[User:78.150.170.23|78.150.170.23]] 18:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Now just replace every instance of “planet” with “Kelly” and you get the basic idea. So it’s not violation of the speculation protocol but rather just notating a important issue.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''Tuckerscreator''']] 05:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC) | Now just replace every instance of “planet” with “Kelly” and you get the basic idea. So it’s not violation of the speculation protocol but rather just notating a important issue.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''Tuckerscreator''']] 05:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::I must say Tucker, you prove some very good points. I'm in favor of adding this little dose of speculation, for the numerous reasons above, but just not to get ''too'' speculative. - | :::I must say Tucker, you prove some very good points. I'm in favor of adding this little dose of speculation, for the numerous reasons above, but just not to get ''too'' speculative. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 18:53, December 10, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::It has been established that the children at the start are there ''"for your interpretation."'' That being said, there is no definite answer to who they are. For more, [http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=9321343 read this].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC) | ::::It has been established that the children at the start are there ''"for your interpretation."'' That being said, there is no definite answer to who they are. For more, [http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=9321343 read this].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:18, December 10, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:It is a possibility but that's the main reason why they made the trailer that way.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:36, December 11, 2009 (UTC) | :It is a possibility but that's the main reason why they made the trailer that way.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:36, December 11, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Okay before I begin, it's spelled "Subtank", and my name is "Halo-343". Well, I don't think there is a green light to restore it right now, unless Subtank changes her mind. Leave it for the Talk Page for now I'd say, to be safe. - | ::Okay before I begin, it's spelled "Subtank", and my name is "Halo-343". Well, I don't think there is a green light to restore it right now, unless Subtank changes her mind. Leave it for the Talk Page for now I'd say, to be safe. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 00:33, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::If we apply the rule of common sense here, you will understand why this fails and Subbles is right. The developers of the commercial said it is up to the viewers' interpretation and who are we to argue with that? Watch the Developer's analysis of Starry Night.--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 00:46, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | :::If we apply the rule of common sense here, you will understand why this fails and Subbles is right. The developers of the commercial said it is up to the viewers' interpretation and who are we to argue with that? Watch the Developer's analysis of Starry Night.--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 00:46, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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[[User talk:Lauren Spartan177|Lauren Spartan177]] 22:03, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | [[User talk:Lauren Spartan177|Lauren Spartan177]] 22:03, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Her hair looks red at some parts, but is brunette. And it's '''''definitely''''' Kelly, seeing as she's referred to by that name several times during the short and promotional material. - | :Her hair looks red at some parts, but is brunette. And it's '''''definitely''''' Kelly, seeing as she's referred to by that name several times during the short and promotional material. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:37, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Yep == | == Yep == | ||
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==Forward Unto Dawn== | ==Forward Unto Dawn== | ||
Since Fred and Kelly are confirmed for Forward Unto Dawn. Should the character profile picture be updated to a live action picture once an appropriate screen capture becomes available?{{Unsigned| | Since Fred and Kelly are confirmed for Forward Unto Dawn. Should the character profile picture be updated to a live action picture once an appropriate screen capture becomes available?{{Unsigned|Manwiththegun}} | ||
:Doubt it. The pictures we have are of ''The Package'', while FuD occurs before it. Ideally, the images shown should be the latest chronologically.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 01:49, 1 October 2012 (EDT) | :Doubt it. The pictures we have are of ''The Package'', while FuD occurs before it. Ideally, the images shown should be the latest chronologically.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 01:49, 1 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
Recentness versus detail. On [[Activation Index]] we chose to use the less recent image because it shows more detail. Now, a live action photo compared to a (canon-loose) CGI cartoon... [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:07, 1 October 2012 (EDT) | Recentness versus detail. On [[Activation Index]] we chose to use the less recent image because it shows more detail. Now, a live action photo compared to a (canon-loose) CGI cartoon... [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:07, 1 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::I vote for her live action appearance.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 07:31, 7 October 2012 (EDT) | ::I vote for her live action appearance.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 07:31, 7 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
:::I agree with live-action also, if it's a good image. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 09:14, 7 October 2012 (EDT) | :::I agree with live-action also, if it's a good image. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 09:14, 7 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::::The decision for Activation Index is simply because there is no solid object of the Index itself in Halo 3. Furthermore, it is impossible to get a good shot of the Index in HCEA, hence why the image in the introduction uses one from Halo 2. As for this article, the image in the infobox shall remain the one from the Package since it is considered the most recent image in canon/chronologically.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:03, 7 October 2012 (EDT) | ::::The decision for Activation Index is simply because there is no solid object of the Index itself in Halo 3. Furthermore, it is impossible to get a good shot of the Index in HCEA, hence why the image in the introduction uses one from Halo 2. As for this article, the image in the infobox shall remain the one from the Package since it is considered the most recent image in canon/chronologically.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:03, 7 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
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::It sounds like borderline sexism to assume that it's the AA helmet merely because she's female. But Fred's helmet was a distinct likeness of the Mark V(B) helmet, while on the other hand Kelly's helmet appeared to be somewhat of an earlier AA helmet model. I, personally are more concerned over the armour they appear to be wearing. It looks very much like the first generation of the MJOLNIR Mark V armour from Halo: Reach. I want to know why these particular Spartans are wearing armour that will not be developed for another 25 years. But, that's probably a discussion made for another talk page. - TheGutsyChipmunk 09:25, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ::It sounds like borderline sexism to assume that it's the AA helmet merely because she's female. But Fred's helmet was a distinct likeness of the Mark V(B) helmet, while on the other hand Kelly's helmet appeared to be somewhat of an earlier AA helmet model. I, personally are more concerned over the armour they appear to be wearing. It looks very much like the first generation of the MJOLNIR Mark V armour from Halo: Reach. I want to know why these particular Spartans are wearing armour that will not be developed for another 25 years. But, that's probably a discussion made for another talk page. - TheGutsyChipmunk 09:25, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ||
:::Actually, [[Talk:MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mark_IV#Mark_IV|the Mark V in ''Reach'' can also be considered the Mark IV]]. Mark V is simply the Mark IV with a working shielding system. The real question is why there is no consistent external design. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 09:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | :::Actually, [[Talk:MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mark_IV#Mark_IV|the Mark V in ''Reach'' can also be considered the Mark IV]]. Mark V is simply the Mark IV with a working shielding system. The real question is why there is no consistent external design. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 09:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ||
::::That's artistic license for ya.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 09:41, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ::::That's artistic license for ya.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 09:41, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ||
The Air Assault helmet wouldn't be introduced until 2535, but I suppose it could be an early prototype. However, I find it hard to look past the plating on her helmet's chin and forehead. Kat's helmet wasn't all the producers repurposed. [[:File:FJ-PARAKnee.png|Do the pieces look familiar?]] --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 14:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | The Air Assault helmet wouldn't be introduced until 2535, but I suppose it could be an early prototype. However, I find it hard to look past the plating on her helmet's chin and forehead. Kat's helmet wasn't all the producers repurposed. [[:File:FJ-PARAKnee.png|Do the pieces look familiar?]] --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 14:37, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ||
:That's... quite a surprise to see that... repurposed. Perhaps Kelly is related to [https://twitter.com/MartyTheElder/status/238880836995399680 Kneeman]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:05, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | :That's... quite a surprise to see that... repurposed. Perhaps Kelly is related to [https://twitter.com/MartyTheElder/status/238880836995399680 Kneeman]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:05, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ||
I say we just re-label the image in question "''Kelly-087, wearing an [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/AA variant|Air Assault]] helmet with an unknown attachment.''" or something similar. <br>/-/[[User:Jetscream|<span style="color:#80B0FF">Jetscream</span>]] | I say we just re-label the image in question "''Kelly-087, wearing an [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/AA variant|Air Assault]] helmet with an unknown attachment.''" or something similar. <br>/-/[[User:Jetscream|<span style="color:#80B0FF">Jetscream</span>]] [[Image:Hannah-022.jpg|14px]] ([[User talk:Jetscream|<span style="color:#FF0000">Officer's Mess</span>]]) 18:42, 2 November 2012 (EDT) | ||