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==Armor==
MK V Scout? MK IV Scout?--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 04:36, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
MK V Scout? MK IV Scout?--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 04:36, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


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I can't really tell but doesn't Jun's armor around the neck have some grassy like addition to it similar to a ghillie suit? From the GI issue I wasn't too sure if it was actually part of his armor or just artisitic additions.[[User talk:CyanDeadEye|CyanDeadEye]] 19:32, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
I can't really tell but doesn't Jun's armor around the neck have some grassy like addition to it similar to a ghillie suit? From the GI issue I wasn't too sure if it was actually part of his armor or just artisitic additions.[[User talk:CyanDeadEye|CyanDeadEye]] 19:32, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


:It's just a concept art. I highly doubt it will be a part of his armor in the game. -- [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 16:57, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
:It's just a concept art. I highly doubt it will be a part of his armor in the game. --[[File:Invincibilityhud.svg|20px]] [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 16:57, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


== Military Branch ==
== Military Branch ==
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so i guess all SPARTANS arent all navy then like i thought they were. [[User:SILENT ONE|SILENT ONE]] 20:17, 11 February, 2010 (UTC)
so i guess all SPARTANS arent all navy then like i thought they were. [[User:SILENT ONE|SILENT ONE]] 20:17, 11 February, 2010 (UTC)


:Check out [http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=personnel&cid=24523 this page]. It says they're UNSC Army. Actually while you're there, read the weapons pages too. They seem to imply the same thing.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]] 03:36, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
:Check out [http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=personnel&cid=24523 this page]. It says they're UNSC Army. Actually while you're there, read the weapons pages too. They seem to imply the same thing.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 03:36, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


== Noble Three ==
== Noble Three ==
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==Article Quote==
==Article Quote==
The article's quote is currently from Jun's report, but I propose changing it to "''You picked one hell of a day to join up''". While I know that the current quote gives more information about Jun himself, but that information is easily represented in the article. - [[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:maroon">'''Si3rra'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:darkgrey">'''o51'''</span>]] File:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 19:17, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
The article's quote is currently from Jun's report, but I propose changing it to "''You picked one hell of a day to join up''". While I know that the current quote gives more information about Jun himself, but that information is easily represented in the article. - [[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:maroon">'''Si3rra'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:darkgrey">'''o51'''</span>]] [[Image:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 19:17, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


:That doesn't have anything to do with his character or personal traits, which is what article quotes are mainly for. It's just a random quote from him and would look out of place there. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 23:46, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
:That doesn't have anything to do with his character or personal traits, which is what article quotes are mainly for. It's just a random quote from him and would look out of place there. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 23:46, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


::While I think that some other article quotes are very loosely tied to their article, you're right, the quote is too vague, my bad. - [[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:maroon; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''Si3rra'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:darkgrey; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''o51'''</span>]] File:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 17:27, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
::While I think that some other article quotes are very loosely tied to their article, you're right, the quote is too vague, my bad. - [[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:maroon; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''Si3rra'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:Kurt - O51|<span style="color:darkgrey; font-family: skia; font-size: 100%;">'''o51'''</span>]] [[Image:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 17:27, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


== profile image==
== profile image==
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:See [http://www.bungie.net/images/news/inline10/bwu_071610/Reach_InitialArmoryInventor.jpg this] (which was on the [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=27328 latest] [[Bungie Weekly Update]]) if you want proof. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
:See [http://www.bungie.net/images/news/inline10/bwu_071610/Reach_InitialArmoryInventor.jpg this] (which was on the [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=27328 latest] [[Bungie Weekly Update]]) if you want proof. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
:: thanks, haven't read this week's update and was wondering where did it came from--[[User talk:Fipas|Fipas]] 16:10, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
:: thanks, haven't read this week's update and was wondering where did it came from--[[User talk:Fipas|Fipas]] 16:10, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
:I am completely and utterly disappointed by Jun's appearance. --[[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="font-family: Apple Symbols;"><span style="color:lightgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''Turn'''</span> </span><span style="color:darkgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''out'''</span> <span style="color:grey; font-size: 60%;">'''the'''</span> <span style="color:black; font-size: 95%;">'''Lights,'''</span>]] <span style=font-family: ;"> 20:34, July 21, 2010 (UTC) </span>
:I am completely and utterly disappointed by Jun's appearance. --[[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="font-family: Apple Symbols;"><span style="color:lightgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''Turn'''</span> </span><span style="color:darkgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''out'''</span> <span style="color:grey; font-size: 60%;">'''the'''</span> <span style="color:black; font-size: 95%;">'''Lights,'''</span>]] [[UserWiki:Kurt - O51|<span style=font-family: ;"><span style="color:lightgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''on'''</span> <span style="color:darkgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''your'''</span> <span style="color:grey; font-size: 60%">'''way'''</span> <span style="color:black; font-size: 95%;">'''Out'''</span></span>]]<span style=font-family: ;"> 20:34, July 21, 2010 (UTC) </span>


== <span style=font-family: ;">Can someone add </span> ==
== <span style=font-family: ;">Can someone add </span> ==
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:Urgh - I keep removing those! I've seen the age tag be used, but generate nothing. Besides, the idea of calculating how old they would be *somewhere* in 2552 doesn't really work.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 06:50, September 8, 2010 (UTC)''
:Urgh - I keep removing those! I've seen the age tag be used, but generate nothing. Besides, the idea of calculating how old they would be *somewhere* in 2552 doesn't really work.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 06:50, September 8, 2010 (UTC)''
Yes we can, the game starts after February and certainly won't go until February 2553, so in his only appearance in the universe he's 28. I would agree with you on characters like Johnson where he is seen throughout the timeline, but this is within one year, so it makes more sense, to me at least... [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:41, September 8, 2010 (UTC)


::Yes we can, the game starts after February and certainly won't go until February 2553, so in his only appearance in the universe he's 28. I would agree with you on characters like Johnson where he is seen throughout the timeline, but this is within one year, so it makes more sense, to me at least... [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:41, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::We don't have a specific date in the Halo universe to call the present, and so those alive after Halo 3 or whose deaths are simply never reported would be alive in the 27th centuy be default. We can't use the past as the present - that's retarded; hell, the game's storyline is just an ONI restoration, anyway, according to the supply crate.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 12:46, 29 May 2011 (EDT)


==Highlands==
==Highlands==
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They said that the locations were canon, but not necessarily the things IN there.  Like the teleporters on Highlands, etc.  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  11:37, 29 May 2011 (EDT)!
They said that the locations were canon, but not necessarily the things IN there.  Like the teleporters on Highlands, etc.  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  11:37, 29 May 2011 (EDT)!
:Location includes what's inside. Otherwise you're pretty much saying that only Blood Gulch's setting (Installation 04) is canon, not the buildings. He only exception are things added for gameplay reasons such as teleporters on Earth-based levels. Just think it this way - if it serves no gameplay purpose - is it just there to complement the scenery? And what information do we have that says that this crash-site is non-canon, or indeed piloted by Jun?-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 12:37, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
Because the SPARTANs abandoned ship some couple kilometers up.  And the Pelican exploded on the top of a snow-capped mountain.  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:35, 29 May 2011 (EDT)!
:''Defiant to the End'' clearly states that the Pelican is Red Team's: ''Bravo 001''. The bodies aren't present in the map itself; they were just added for dramatic effect in the video. The Spartans would have landed several kilometers from the Pelican's crash site, just like in the book. In ''First Strike'', the part about ''Bravo 001'' crashing into a field comprises only one sentence, whereas the map is a full-fledged environment. Crashing into a field instead of a mountain is a very simple retcon, especially considering that the Fall of Reach went from being a one-day massacre to an enormous series of campaigns that lasted over a month. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 13:49, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
==Jun died in reach (with proof)==
According to bungies podcast back in February 2010, His Last name is Lo. And now his name is along (The soldiers who lost their life in Reach) in Halo 3 ODST. See for your self:
http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=122758784
:That's just a coincidence. Officially the SPARTAN-III program doesn't exist and its members were never adopted by ONI. It just wouldn't make sense to list all SPARTAN-II and III casualties and just assume that, because no one knows their surnames, everything will be ok. If you find "Carter"; "Kat" (not Catherine!); "Emile" and "Jorge", please come back.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 07:12, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
::Somebody ought to note that '''''Jun''''' is a very common first name in Japan. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|July 10th, 2011}}
==Mass==
What?  Why does he weigh half of what Kat weighs? '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">(or so it says in the sacred caves)</font>]]''''' 20:11, 30 January 2012 (EST)!
== Homeworld ==
If Kat and Jun have the same homeworld, why are they in different companies?[[Special:Contributions/108.66.164.104|108.66.164.104]] 01:11, 22 January 2013 (EST)
:Because Kat was born after Jun. She would have been one when Alpha Company was formed. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 01:42, 22 January 2013 (EST)
==Survival==
While lurking on Waypoint, I came across [http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/Commander-Palmer-Armor/00000ffc-69a7-f211-c9c0-33834d530919 Sarah Palmer's armour's] intriguing details. The details state that she was "''hand-picked by former Spartan-III Jun A-266 to be one of the first candidates in the new Spartan IV program.''" I was going to add this to the article, but I am unsure whether this is a reliable source. Have we ever used an avatar item as a reference before? I feel I should ask, instead of just barging in. :P -<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 12:20, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
:Everything else in that description checks out canonically, so my guess would be that it's legitimate. Though since we don't know exactly when the SPARTAN-IV Program commenced (since Parangosky was planning to have Ackerson and Halsey heading the program, the planning would have been in place before Halsey's supposed death on Reach), it can't be certain that Jun survived. He may have picked Palmer before the Fall of Reach. It does prove however, that Jun had knowledge of the program, which should be stated in the article.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 12:41, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
::Keep in mind that the description says "''former'' Spartan-III Jun-A266". To me, this implies that Jun was recovered from Reach and discharged from active service. The remaining SPARTAN-IIIs were integrated into the S-IVs, so that may explain why he is referred to as a "former" SPARTAN-III. My guess is that Jun has gone from combat to the administration and training of the next generation of Spartans, just like Kurt. Sure, he might have picked Sarah before the Fall of Reach, but that begs the question, ''"Why let him pick candidates for the new program while he was in active service? Why not use Maria, Fhajad, or René?"'' Anyway, I'm very glad you posted that link, Tentacletornado; it reveals some pretty major information about both the S-IVs and ''Infinity'''s history. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 13:18, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
:We used an action figure as a source for the Prophet of Regret's name before it was supported by better sources, so I'm sure using an avatar item would be fine. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:48, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
:::Thanks guys. I'll add it in now. I'll bear in mind that he may or may not have chosen her before the Fall of Reach. Adding to Braidenvl's points, our Palmer article states that she was introduced to the Spartan-IV program after a battle in October, yet Jun escorted Halsey to CASTLE in late August. I don't know whether this would mean that Jun picked her beforehand and the battle in October confirmed his choice for someone else, or whether Jun did actually pick her after the battle himself. Unless I'm just confusing myself and grasping straws. :P --<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 14:35, 23 July 2013 (EDT)
::::I think the avatar's description is pretty much self-explanatory, if Jun chose Palmer while being a ''former'' Spartan-III, then he managed to escape Reach and is no more an active duty Spartan-III (Whether he's among the IVs, their trainer/recruiter/an admin guy, and so on remains unclear of course). Moreover Palmer was still an ODST in October, so my interpretation is that it's this mission which was the decisive one before she was chosen. I find it really unlikely that Jun would have been involved in the S-IV Program as early as before Reach... I think we all understand why 343 slipped this info in the avatar's description. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 16:21, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
Halsey survived Reach as seen in Halo 4. Jun likely would have made it with her. it is possible that they got stranded on another planet, keeping John-117 as the only known Spartan.-sallan
== Rank ==
Pretty sure he is a "Spartan" now, rather than a warrant officer. He is referred to as such throughout ''New Blood'', but I'm wondering if there is any other sources I am missing that may refer to him as warrant officer still. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 20:55, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:I don't know if administrative personnel also have the "Spartan" rank. Musa doesn't. Though Musa could still be part of the Navy, due to his ambiguous role. Truly, I don't know. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 08:18, 17 February 2016 (EST)
::Musa himself is still pretty ambiguous as he is with the Spartan branch a lot but I think he is still technically Navy. Maybe we could wait for a Waypoint article on Jun and see what it says. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 11:06, 17 February 2016 (EST)

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