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==Untitled==
I think an image of Tartarus should be put here to show that the Cheftian has evolved from Halo 2. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front <font color="000000">(shockfront)</font>]</sup></b> 19:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I think an image of Tartarus should be put here to show that the Cheftian has evolved from Halo 2. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front <font color="000000">(shockfront)</font>]</sup></b> 19:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


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Too many bullets guys, they're crowding the whole page. Try and work the trivia into the main article.
Too many bullets guys, they're crowding the whole page. Try and work the trivia into the main article.


:I'm on it. [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925">'''Jora 'Mantak'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<span style = "color:#5D1A39">Battlenet</span>]]-[http://halopedian.com/User_profile:An_elite_%2792 <span style = "color:#B7608A">Brothers</span>]-[[Special:Contributions/An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#CCCCCC">Combat History</span>]] 03:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:I'm on it. [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925">'''Jora 'Mantak'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<span style = "color:#5D1A39">Battlenet</span>]]-[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_profile:An_elite_%2792 <span style = "color:#B7608A">Brothers</span>]-[[Special:Contributions/An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#CCCCCC">Combat History</span>]] 03:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:Finished, but my edit was reverted. Please explain. [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925">'''Jora 'Mantak'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<span style = "color:#5D1A39">Battlenet</span>]]-[http://halopedian.com/User_profile:An_elite_%2792 <span style = "color:#B7608A">Brothers</span>]-[[Special:Contributions/An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#CCCCCC">Combat History</span>]] 14:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
:Finished, but my edit was reverted. Please explain. [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925">'''Jora 'Mantak'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<span style = "color:#5D1A39">Battlenet</span>]]-[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_profile:An_elite_%2792 <span style = "color:#B7608A">Brothers</span>]-[[Special:Contributions/An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#CCCCCC">Combat History</span>]] 14:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


::It was [[User:Owner2647|Owner2647]]. Talk to him.<div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div>16:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
::It was [[User:Owner2647|Owner2647]]. Talk to him.<div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div>16:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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Which Brute Chieftain armor signifies the higher-powered Chieftain? [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 12:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Which Brute Chieftain armor signifies the higher-powered Chieftain? [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 12:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


**I say Chieftains that are equipped with Red Armor, Gravity Hammers, and Invincibilty are the higher ranking of the two. File:Halopedia - Anti-Vandal Assault Corps Logo 01.PNG|25px]]UoH/D Company|<font color="silver"><b>General</b></font>]] [[User:CommanderTony|<b><font color="crimson">Tony</font></b>]]<sup>[[User Talk:CommanderTony|<b><font color="black">Talk</font></b>]]</sup> 10/26/2007
**I say Chieftains that are equipped with Red Armor, Gravity Hammers, and Invincibilty are the higher ranking of the two. [[Image:Halopedia - Anti-Vandal Assault Corps Logo 01.PNG|25px]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/D Company|<font color="silver"><b>General</b></font>]] [[User:CommanderTony|<b><font color="crimson">Tony</font></b>]]<sup>[[User Talk:CommanderTony|<b><font color="black">Talk</font></b>]]</sup> 10/26/2007


No the Highest are the Gold ones. Even when there was a Red one in the level Crows Nest it was the Gold one who reported directly to the Prophet of Truth. Councilor 'Rumilee
No the Highest are the Gold ones. Even when there was a Red one in the level Crows Nest it was the Gold one who reported directly to the Prophet of Truth. Councilor 'Rumilee
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How about you play halo [[User talk:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] 00:36, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
How about you play halo [[User talk:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] 00:36, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
War Chieftains will sometime berserk, like when you throw a Power Drain next to them. [[User talk:Youngrubby|Youngrubby]] 18:39, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


== Pack Chieftain ==
== Pack Chieftain ==
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:This is such a stupid fight... --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato]] 22:31, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
:This is such a stupid fight... --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato]] 22:31, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


::To be completely honest (And no, my xbox live account does not accurately represent how many times I've played through campaign), I've been charged at several times without killing pack members. It seems to be about how close you get to the cheiftain. The closer you are, the more likely they'll initiate a charge sequence.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 17:37, August 13, 2010 (UTC)


== Legends ==
== Legends ==
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i'm pretty sure they aren't called brute chieftans they are brute heros--[[User talk:CFV-88|CFV-88]] 21:57, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
i'm pretty sure they aren't called brute chieftans they are brute heros--[[User talk:CFV-88|CFV-88]] 21:57, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
I think that that blue chieftain may not be a chieftain, but an army commander(note similar armour and long beard), maybe equal in rank to the one in halo wars.


==Sticking==
==Sticking==
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==Reach?==
==Reach?==
The article says they have different armour for Reach but do we even now if the brutes are in Reach? [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 18:44, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
The article says they have different armour for Reach but do we even now if the brutes are in Reach? [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 18:44, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
:We do now. -- [[User talk:SFH|SFH]] 18:58, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
==Image?==
I just saw a dispute between two users about which image should be posted and I was wondering the same myself. Reach or H3?
One one hand, most of our weapon and character articles are updated each time a new game comes out. Logically we would then use a Reach picture. However, there are many reasons why this might not be applicable for Brute ranks. One of the weakest (but still valid) arguments is that H3 chronologically comes ''after'' Reach. I know this has been discussed before, but I'll post it up for further discussion.
Now even if this first point is to be ignored, the last one is a bit more convincing. For one reason or another (perhaps because brutes at this point were still a secondary fighting force rather than the frontline troops as they were in H3), the Reach brutes seem to be a thrown together band of soldiers with little in the way of equipment or direction. By Halo 3, Brute ranks were clearly defined with three dvisions among infantry ranks, three divisions among captain ranks, and two divisions among chieftains. There were also two specialty ranks on the side. Before brutes were being used as main troops (Halo Reach's time period) we see that there is no division among the infantry ranks (now called Minors) and the captain ranks (now just called Majors).
The point of all this is that before their unification under Truth's call, brutes were an ad hoc band of misfits. They were underequipped and in disarray. The brutes of Reach can clearly be seen with similar armor pieces to their H3 counterparts, but they weren't painted to denote rank because this was a time before rank. And these Reach brutes are also seen without full sets of armor. They have missing pieces. Even the chieftain has his leg armor missing!
So why use a picture of the chieftain in earlier gear, especially if we have one in its full set of armor at the height of the brute's power: H3? Just a question to think about.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 17:37, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
I think we should use the Reach picture. Because it isn't about the newest game, it isn't even about what comes in the the storyline! It's about what has the best graphics! And since Reach's graphics are much better then Halo 3's we should use Reach!Thank you taking time to listen to my post! 01:45, August 15, 2010 (UTC)!!!!!!!!!!
I believe we should use H3 photo's[[User talk:Paladin cross|Paladin cross]] 15:20, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
We should use both. By keeping the Halo 3 pics we know they have at the height of their power while it'd be an incredibly stupid idea to disregard the new info from Reach. Besides the Chiefains have some pretty robust looking armor, it'd be a shame to not show it.--[[User talk:Zervziel|For the Swarm!]] 03:38, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
== Halo Reach render? ==
So, the Reach render that was used as the main image before it was replaced by the halo 3 one shows a Chieftain that is part Captain part Chieftain. I never once saw these in-game and i think they were early concepts. We should get a render of the final in-game one. [[File:Extermination.gif|30px]]<font style="background:white">[[User:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:blue">Alpha Lima Echo Xray</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:blue">Talk</font>]]</sup></font> 07:42, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
:Ah, I see what you're saying. Perhaps provide us a good screenshot of it (in a normal pose) and let some of our users render it? :D — <span style="font-size:120%; font-family:Palatino Linotype; font-style:italic;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 09:05, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
Will any of these pictures do: [http://www.halopedian.com/File:ChieftainFull.jpg] or [http://www.halopedian.com/File:ChieftainHalf.jpg] [[File:Extermination.gif|30px]]<font style="background:white">[[User:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:blue">Alpha Lima Echo Xray</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:blue">Talk</font>]]</sup></font> 10:06, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
:It is much preferred if you could get one with a bland background along with the pose as depicted in the second image, though in a calmer fashion. To clarify, the pose should be near-neutral if possible, i.e. not charging pose, not attacking pose. — <span style="font-size:120%; font-family:Palatino Linotype; font-style:italic;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:11, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
== These Guys Trump the War Chieftains ==
On The Covenant, there are two "regular" Chieftains, including one guarding the Prophet of Truth himself, while in the same level there are '''seven''', count 'em, seven War Chieftains, two of which are guarding a Citadel (remember, the previous Citadel is guarded by only one "regular" Chieftain). In addition "regular" Chieftains are the only Brutes ever seen wielding Gravity Hammers, a weapon the Chieftain of the Brutes himself used as his signature weapon (Also remember that "regular" Chieftains are the only Brutes that use Invincibility. What better way to keep an important asset alive in the field?). All of this evidence leads me to believe that War Chieftains are in fact inferior to "regular" Chieftains. Tell me what you think! --[[User talk:TK 234|One  who survived]] 14:57, 7 April 2012 (EDT)
I think you might be right and Brute Chieftains might be the boss of the "war chieftains". --[[User:The Ultimate Pie|The Ultimate Pie]] ([[User talk:The Ultimate Pie|talk]]) 23:02, 25 December 2017 (EST)

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