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Please use this image on the top instead, it is much newer than the old pictures, and looks a lot better [[File:Huragok Halo 3- ODST.jpg|150px]] | Please use this image on the top instead, it is much newer than the old pictures, and looks a lot better [[File:Huragok Halo 3- ODST.jpg|150px]] | ||
:First of all, you need to sign your edits, so we don't have to dig through the edit history to find out who you are, [[User:Baryon15|Baryon15]]. Second of all, if not for the fact that it's on this talk page, I'd have no idea that that picture shows a Huragok. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 01:21, September 24, 2009 (UTC) | :First of all, you need to sign your edits, so we don't have to dig through the edit history to find out who you are, [[User:Baryon15|Baryon15]]. Second of all, if not for the fact that it's on this talk page, I'd have no idea that that picture shows a Huragok. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 01:21, September 24, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Haha unfortunately, Bungie DID decide to visually upgrade our little friend to look like the wonderful creature above. Though the basic design is similar, I'd have to say that I was a little disappointed with Bungie's explanation for the radical change. Joe mentions that they never "officially" showed an Engineer render in regards to Halo canon. It seems that the Halo 3 bestiary, Halo CE source files, and Halo Wars Campaign/multiplayer don't really count as 'official'. Nice retcon. --[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 02:03, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | ::Haha unfortunately, Bungie DID decide to visually upgrade our little friend to look like the wonderful creature above. Though the basic design is similar, I'd have to say that I was a little disappointed with Bungie's explanation for the radical change. Joe mentions that they never "officially" showed an Engineer render in regards to Halo canon. It seems that the Halo 3 bestiary, Halo CE source files, and Halo Wars Campaign/multiplayer don't really count as 'official'. Nice retcon. --[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 02:03, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::I'm not sure what your point is. Halo Wars basically just used the Halo 1 version, and the Halo 1 version was cut from the game. Its not the first time Bungie's given a Covenant species a visual update, so why would it break canon?-- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 03:11, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | :::I'm not sure what your point is. Halo Wars basically just used the Halo 1 version, and the Halo 1 version was cut from the game. Its not the first time Bungie's given a Covenant species a visual update, so why would it break canon?-- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 03:11, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
==How they could have been in the game== | ==How they could have been in the game== | ||
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*Where can I find these images?--[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> 19:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | *Where can I find these images?--[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> 19:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Yes, where?--'''<font color="black">UoH|<font color="black">UNSCoH</font>]] [[General|<font color="black">General</font>]]</font> [[User:Ryanngreenday|<font color="black">"Running</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="black">Riot"</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="blue">Ryan</font>]]''' [[File:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]] ''[[User:Ryanngreenday#userboxes_for_you.3F|<font color="white">'''BAM'''</font>]]'' 19:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | Yes, where?--'''<font color="black">[[UoH|<font color="black">UNSCoH</font>]] [[General|<font color="black">General</font>]]</font> [[User:Ryanngreenday|<font color="black">"Running</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="black">Riot"</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="blue">Ryan</font>]]''' [[File:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]] ''[[User:Ryanngreenday#userboxes_for_you.3F|<font color="white">'''BAM'''</font>]]'' 19:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
I get the impression that he is trying to deiceve us. Emosworld 08:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC) | I get the impression that he is trying to deiceve us. {{Signatures/Emosworld}} 08:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Plasma Rifle== | ==Plasma Rifle== | ||
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:I'd like to start by saying that the post I am replying to was made by [[User:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]], who forgot to sign their edit. If, Sgt. Biscuits, you wish to avoid this mistake in the future, then simply read the bolded text that is shown above the editing textbox when you edit a talk page. | :I'd like to start by saying that the post I am replying to was made by [[User:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]], who forgot to sign their edit. If, Sgt. Biscuits, you wish to avoid this mistake in the future, then simply read the bolded text that is shown above the editing textbox when you edit a talk page. | ||
:Now, in answer to Sgt. Biscuits' actual comment, the Huragok are effectively unaffiliated. They don't ''care'' about the Covenant or the Humans. Their sole concerns are the manipulation of machines and the protection of Forerunner artifacts. Given that they have no political concerns and that they despise combat, [[User:DilaBagomee|DilaBagomee]]'s theory is most likely the correct one. | :Now, in answer to Sgt. Biscuits' actual comment, the Huragok are effectively unaffiliated. They don't ''care'' about the Covenant or the Humans. Their sole concerns are the manipulation of machines and the protection of Forerunner artifacts. Given that they have no political concerns and that they despise combat, [[User:DilaBagomee|DilaBagomee]]'s theory is most likely the correct one. | ||
:As for the Huragoks' pro-Human behavior in ''Halo 3: ODST'', that probably didn't have anything to do with the Covenant or their affiliation. I'm not sure, but I think it was more related to the suicide bombs that the Brutes forced the Engineers to wear. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 01:02, November 19, 2009 (UTC) | :As for the Huragoks' pro-Human behavior in ''Halo 3: ODST'', that probably didn't have anything to do with the Covenant or their affiliation. I'm not sure, but I think it was more related to the suicide bombs that the Brutes forced the Engineers to wear. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb </span>]]</b></span> 01:02, November 19, 2009 (UTC) | ||
I agree with DavidJCobb, only the Brutes would think of something as stupid and cowardly as putting a bomb on a engineer, Elites know how valuable an Engineer is to an ship's crew, or a Fleet for that matter so they probably wouldn't even have them on the battlefield unless the battle is over and they have them come in repair, heal, etc.But as for the affiliation Separatist or Loyalist DilaBagomee is correct they would just serve under whose ship or fleet they were in, but after Loyalist defeat what would happen to them?--[[User talk:Lordexodus003|Lordexodus003]] 08:01, December 19, 2009 (UTC) | I agree with DavidJCobb, only the Brutes would think of something as stupid and cowardly as putting a bomb on a engineer, Elites know how valuable an Engineer is to an ship's crew, or a Fleet for that matter so they probably wouldn't even have them on the battlefield unless the battle is over and they have them come in repair, heal, etc.But as for the affiliation Separatist or Loyalist DilaBagomee is correct they would just serve under whose ship or fleet they were in, but after Loyalist defeat what would happen to them?--[[User talk:Lordexodus003|Lordexodus003]] 08:01, December 19, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Could some cite this please--[[User:Darth Scott|Darth Scott]] 05:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | Could some cite this please--[[User:Darth Scott|Darth Scott]] 05:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
OH! OH! it could also be 2-1=1. Thats basically all you need if your just going to disassemble alien engines, turn them into other things, then rebuild it into another engine all your life. PsychoThunder | OH! OH! it could also be 2-1=1. Thats basically all you need if your just going to disassemble alien engines, turn them into other things, then rebuild it into another engine all your life. [[PsychoThunder]] | ||
== Forerunner Covenant== | == Forerunner Covenant== | ||
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As I see, huragoks are categorised as "deleted material" because they didn't make it out on Halo:CE. On the other hand, they appear on [[Halo Wars]] as regular units. Should we remove this category or not?--<tt><sup><font color="#7BA05B">[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]</font></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|<font color="#4B5320"><font size="5">53</font></font>]]</tt> 20:36, 27 February 2009 (UTC) | As I see, huragoks are categorised as "deleted material" because they didn't make it out on Halo:CE. On the other hand, they appear on [[Halo Wars]] as regular units. Should we remove this category or not?--<tt><sup><font color="#7BA05B">[[User:Odysseas-spartan-53|Odysseas]]-[[User talk:Odysseas-spartan-53|Spartan]]</font></sup>[[Special:Contributions/Odysseas-spartan-53|<font color="#4B5320"><font size="5">53</font></font>]]</tt> 20:36, 27 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
Since they are no longer deleted material (and long ago stopped being so after First Strike), the template is no longer applicable. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 21:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC) | Since they are no longer deleted material (and long ago stopped being so after First Strike), the template is no longer applicable. --<b>[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 21:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
== contradiction? == | == contradiction? == | ||
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in the anatomy/physiology it says that deflating their gas bags will cause them to asphyxiate. it later says that they use the gas bags for ''anaerobic'' respiration... if you dont need an oxydizer to breathe, how do you asphyxiate? sum1 plz fix/clarify.[[User talk:Crubs|Crubs]] 23:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC) | in the anatomy/physiology it says that deflating their gas bags will cause them to asphyxiate. it later says that they use the gas bags for ''anaerobic'' respiration... if you dont need an oxydizer to breathe, how do you asphyxiate? sum1 plz fix/clarify.[[User talk:Crubs|Crubs]] 23:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Because anaerobic respiration just doesn't provide enough gas for long enough. Its horribly inefficient, and used only as a Huragok's last resort, for a short time. Also, don't forget that the Huragok in question, Lighter Than Some, was also keeping a friend, Dadab, alive at the same time, further compounding the problem. The two were on the verge of running out just as Rapid Conversion arrived. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 04:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | :Because anaerobic respiration just doesn't provide enough gas for long enough. Its horribly inefficient, and used only as a Huragok's last resort, for a short time. Also, don't forget that the Huragok in question, Lighter Than Some, was also keeping a friend, Dadab, alive at the same time, further compounding the problem. The two were on the verge of running out just as Rapid Conversion arrived. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 04:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Xbox or PC? == | == Xbox or PC? == | ||
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:Damn it! It looks like redm0nkey is telling the truth,though I still have some doubts.[[User talk:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] 02:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | :Damn it! It looks like redm0nkey is telling the truth,though I still have some doubts.[[User talk:SPARTAN-177|SPARTAN-177]] 02:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
::So we have to face Huragok suicide bombers? Damn. I thought the kamikaze Grunts were annoying enough... -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 04:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | ::So we have to face Huragok suicide bombers? Damn. I thought the kamikaze Grunts were annoying enough... -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 04:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Apparently, in Firefight they also supply nearby Covenant units with Overshields. --[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 19:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | :Apparently, in Firefight they also supply nearby Covenant units with Overshields. --[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 19:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:Well, they were definitely in it, although it looks like they wish they weren't. I can't figure out if they're being mind-controlled or just held ransom. Doesn't seem like they want to be suicide bombers though. --[[User talk:Snovah|Snovah]] 06:23, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | :Well, they were definitely in it, although it looks like they wish they weren't. I can't figure out if they're being mind-controlled or just held ransom. Doesn't seem like they want to be suicide bombers though. --[[User talk:Snovah|Snovah]] 06:23, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::The Brutes refer to the Engineers as "slaves," so they're definitely there against their will. As for why all of them don't defect - perhaps that's the point of the explosive armour they wear? that's a pretty big incentive for loyalty. Or some of them may not even care - they seem pretty focussed on their work, whatever that is. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 11:18, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | ::The Brutes refer to the Engineers as "slaves," so they're definitely there against their will. As for why all of them don't defect - perhaps that's the point of the explosive armour they wear? that's a pretty big incentive for loyalty. Or some of them may not even care - they seem pretty focussed on their work, whatever that is. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 11:18, September 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Article for the houses? == | == Article for the houses? == | ||
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Is there an article for the "houses" that the engineers come from? You can see them everywhere in Halo 3: ODST, in the banshee level. | Is there an article for the "houses" that the engineers come from? You can see them everywhere in Halo 3: ODST, in the banshee level. | ||
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:See [[Huragok Recharge Station]]. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:01, September 29, 2009 (UTC) | :See [[Huragok Recharge Station]]. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:01, September 29, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Flood compatability == | == Flood compatability == | ||
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Could someone with some Photoshop experience (and a little time on their hands) please edit the main image so there is no background? It seems kind of hard to find a good image of just an Engineer and nothing else.--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 16:20, June 28, 2010 (UTC) | Could someone with some Photoshop experience (and a little time on their hands) please edit the main image so there is no background? It seems kind of hard to find a good image of just an Engineer and nothing else.--[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Comic Sans MS">Penguin</span>]] 16:20, June 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Huragok in Halo: Reach confirmed. == | == Huragok in Halo: Reach confirmed. == | ||
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This rules out the possibility of the Huragok being cut from the final game. ;) [[User talk:3v!l D3m0n|3v!l D3m0n]] 07:33, August 18, 2010 (UTC) | This rules out the possibility of the Huragok being cut from the final game. ;) [[User talk:3v!l D3m0n|3v!l D3m0n]] 07:33, August 18, 2010 (UTC) | ||