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== Inner Colony list == | == Inner Colony list == | ||
Given that it's been consistently stated that the last of outer colonies were glassed or otherwise destroyed or abandoned in 2536, by definition every known remaining UNSC colony is or was an Inner Colony. Is there anything in the Encyclopedia or any of the Visual Guides that contradicts this that I'm not aware of? -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:04, 20 February 2014 (EST) | Given that it's been consistently stated that the last of outer colonies were glassed or otherwise destroyed or abandoned in 2536, by definition every known remaining UNSC colony is or was an Inner Colony. Is there anything in the Encyclopedia or any of the Visual Guides that contradicts this that I'm not aware of? -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:04, 20 February 2014 (EST) | ||
No, it's been said that the majority of the Outer Colonies were wiped out by 2531. Some still remained.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 02:10, 20 February 2014 (EST) | No, it's been said that the majority of the Outer Colonies were wiped out by 2531. Some still remained.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 02:10, 20 February 2014 (EST) | ||
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:Yeah, the statement about the Outer Colonies' destruction in the original Halo timeline always did say "''virtually'' all". [[Venezia]], for example, obviously isn't an Inner Colony, though I don't think it's ever definitely categorized in the books. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:30, 20 February 2014 (EST) | :Yeah, the statement about the Outer Colonies' destruction in the original Halo timeline always did say "''virtually'' all". [[Venezia]], for example, obviously isn't an Inner Colony, though I don't think it's ever definitely categorized in the books. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:30, 20 February 2014 (EST) | ||
::Ack, thanks for the clarification. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:39, 20 February 2014 (EST) | ::Ack, thanks for the clarification. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:39, 20 February 2014 (EST) | ||
I just thought about whether or not that Camber is a Inner or Outer Colony World and I have decided that it is a Inner Colony, along with other colonies that were featured in H2A/Terminals 2 and 3. Reason #1: the high population (5.6 million), Camber seems to have sprawling cities across it's surface and a economy that is based around manufacturing, a hint that it is one of Inner Colonies; Reason #2: it's defenses consisted of a ODP cluster (which were common among the Inner Colonies like New Carthage and Reach), several Marathon-class heavy cruisers, some Halcyon-class light cruisers, and a huge amount of frigates (possibly some destroyers and carriers, wouldn't be a UNSC Navy battlegroup without them), such defenses would mean that Camber was a Inner Colony. As for the other colonies it's simple, they are heavily populated (Estuary: over 89 million; Mesa: over 219 million; Greydowns (possible lunar colonies): over 76 million; Kroedis II: over 15 million; Alluvion: over 336 million; Bounty: over 199 million), and that makes think that these colonies should be in the Inner Colony list, just though I'd get that out. So, what do you think? - EpicZealot1239 | I just thought about whether or not that Camber is a Inner or Outer Colony World and I have decided that it is a Inner Colony, along with other colonies that were featured in H2A/Terminals 2 and 3. Reason #1: the high population (5.6 million), Camber seems to have sprawling cities across it's surface and a economy that is based around manufacturing, a hint that it is one of Inner Colonies; Reason #2: it's defenses consisted of a ODP cluster (which were common among the Inner Colonies like New Carthage and Reach), several Marathon-class heavy cruisers, some Halcyon-class light cruisers, and a huge amount of frigates (possibly some destroyers and carriers, wouldn't be a UNSC Navy battlegroup without them), such defenses would mean that Camber was a Inner Colony. As for the other colonies it's simple, they are heavily populated (Estuary: over 89 million; Mesa: over 219 million; Greydowns (possible lunar colonies): over 76 million; Kroedis II: over 15 million; Alluvion: over 336 million; Bounty: over 199 million), and that makes think that these colonies should be in the Inner Colony list, just though I'd get that out. So, what do you think? - EpicZealot1239 | ||
:We concluded New Carthage was an Inner Colony based on its possession of an ODP platform. In the case of Imber it sounds reasonable to conclude it was one. The fact that the other colonies were attacked after Imber, as the Covenant were pushing into the Inner Colonies, also suggests that they were too, even discounting the population figures. Like Carthage, we should add them to the Inner Colonies list, with an explanatory footnote. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:39, 14 February 2015 (EST) | :We concluded New Carthage was an Inner Colony based on its possession of an ODP platform. In the case of Imber it sounds reasonable to conclude it was one. The fact that the other colonies were attacked after Imber, as the Covenant were pushing into the Inner Colonies, also suggests that they were too, even discounting the population figures. Like Carthage, we should add them to the Inner Colonies list, with an explanatory footnote. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:39, 14 February 2015 (EST) | ||
::For the population figures, [[Talk:Bounty|see my remark on them]]. I don't think the figures reflect that, since they increase. For the rest, I don't have much to say. Perhaps they are inner colonies. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 19:54, 14 February 2015 (EST) | ::For the population figures, [[Talk:Bounty|see my remark on them]]. I don't think the figures reflect that, since they increase. For the rest, I don't have much to say. Perhaps they are inner colonies. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 19:54, 14 February 2015 (EST) | ||
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::Whatever everyone agrees works best, I can see your reasoning there for the two labels.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 19:49, 11 March 2015 (EDT) | ::Whatever everyone agrees works best, I can see your reasoning there for the two labels.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 19:49, 11 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
:It might be advisable to look into a symbolic key system, rather than typing it out for every colony or system. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:16, 16 August 2015 (EDT) | :It might be advisable to look into a symbolic key system, rather than typing it out for every colony or system. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:16, 16 August 2015 (EDT) | ||
There are many colonies under UEG control or still held and you put unknown status you should put under UEG control or still held not unknown status. {{Unsigned| | There are many colonies under UEG control or still held and you put unknown status you should put under UEG control or still held not unknown status. {{Unsigned|Terran2002}} | ||
If there status is unknown we should keep it unknown. Please sign your comments. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 16:45, 17 April 2016 (EDT) | If there status is unknown we should keep it unknown. Please sign your comments. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 16:45, 17 April 2016 (EDT) | ||