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| :Can you provide a page number? - '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 15:09, 24 February 2011 (EST) | | :Can you provide a page number? - '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 15:09, 24 February 2011 (EST) |
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| ::I don't know...it says page 145 in the Human-San 'Shyumm war article. [[User talk:VadersFist666|VadersFist666]] 15:37, 24 February 2011 (EST)
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| :::Anyone, or should I change it? [[User talk:VadersFist666|VadersFist666]] 22:22, 3 March 2011 (EST)
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| == A change of dates ==
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| I've been looking over Halo Silentium, and I think the dates for the Human-Forerunner War are off. To start, the war ended around 110,000 BCE
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| ''I was not always called Lifeshaper. That title came to me just before I walked among the defeated humans at Charuk Hakkor, in the company of the Didact, ten thousand years ago'' - ''Halo Silentium'' page 31
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| Now, it is clear that the Human-Forerunner War started before 110,050 BCE, as noted in Halo Cryptum.
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| ''...and fought for fifty years against repeated Forerunner assaults...'' - ''Halo Cryptum'' page 118
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| However, Halo Primordium makes this claim:
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| ''We defended Charum Hakkor against the Forerunner assaults - which came in an unending sequence, on after another - for three years.'' - ''Halo Primordium'' page 239
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| However, looking over this next quote:
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| ''Forty years before the last of the Human-Forerunner Wars, it was Yprin Yprikushma who had been summoned to the murky boundaries of the galaxy...And it was Yprin who had excavated that planetoid, found the Primordial...'' - ''Halo Primordium'' pages 236-237
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| This shows that the Primordial was found and brought back to Charum Hakkor about 40 years before the end of the war, with the great sacrifice of Humans to stop the Flood not long after that.
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| Now, looking over these two quotes:
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| ''And yet - it was Yprin who prepared our forces for combat with the far more advanced Forerunner. And she who encouraged our scientists and robotic intelligences to take what we learned in our early conflicts with the Forerunners, anticipating their technology, an thus making so many technological advances.'' - ''Halo Primordium'' page 238
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| ''But within decades, the situation changed. Humans surged back.'' - ''Halo Silentium'' page 36
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| And they seem to be referencing the same Human resurgence.
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| Given all this, I would wager that the Human-Forerunner War was no more than 50 years long. Maybe a little longer, but not by much.
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| [[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 17:36, 15 July 2013 (EDT)
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| :''"When the Didact finally exhausted the humans - after a millenium - his sentence was severe."'' - the Librarian, ''Halo 4''. I think this is where the oft-used "human-Forerunner wars" comes in handy because I think it more accurately describes the nature of the conflict: it's not a single, wholly continuous war but a series of sporadic conflicts waged over several centuries. This is also suggested in the very quotes you provided - ''"Forty years before the last of the human-Forerunner wars..."'' or ''"And she who encouraged our scientists and robotic intelligences to take what we learned in our early conflicts with the Forerunners..."'' Both of these imply that the fifty-year conflict - which mainly involves the [[Charum Hakkor campaign]] - was just the last in a series of many wars.
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| :As for the question of 110,000 vs. 109,000 years BCE, it's somewhat murky because both are used, though the 9,000 years figure appears more often in ''Cryptum''. I've always assumed that the frequent "10,000 years" is more of a rough approximation, while the 9,000 BCE date, being more precise, is likely closer to the actual period of time. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:06, 16 July 2013 (EDT)
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| ::After looking everything over again, I do agree with the length of the war. However, looking back through Cryptum, the only instance of "9000 years" before 100,000 BCE is when Riser is talking about how long his ancestors knew about the island that would eventually hold the Didact's Cryptum. This "9000 years ago" date is associated with when the Librarian was put in charge of Earth, not necessarily the end of the Human-Forerunner Wars. Later, when Bornstellar starts experiencing the Didact's memories, he flashes back to Humanity's defeat at Charum Hakkor, and specifically notes that it's 10,000 years before the the book is set. And then, any time the Human-Forerunner wars are referenced in Silentium, they note the wars ended 10,000 years before the book is set. [[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 00:10, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
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