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==Helmet variations==
"Councilor helmet, Rtas 'Vadum's face, red lights on body armor" should read "Ultra helmet"; saying "Councilor helmet" on that line is a mistake, correct? Or can it also appear with Rtas's face and a Councilor helmet, meaning there are 5 variations rather than just the 4 listed?
==Upload==
==Upload==
I had to upload the image 3 times whats up with that? --[[User:T3rr0r|T3rr0r]] 10:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I had to upload the image 3 times whats up with that? --[[User:T3rr0r|T3rr0r]] 10:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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:A Zealot, I believe. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 09:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
:A Zealot, I believe. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 09:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::So we need to delete the entire article because one of the trivia is wrong [[User talk:Kaeleth|Kaeleth]] 06:34, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::Why you have to comment on a three-year old post.... it's just beyond me... >.< - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 06:44, September 7, 2010 (UTC)


==Changed==
==Changed==
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== Image:Councillor.jpg ==
== Image:Councillor.jpg ==


File:Councillor.jpg|150px]]
[[Image:Councillor.jpg|150px]]


Should we put this image on this page? --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] File:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 04:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Should we put this image on this page? --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] [[Image:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 04:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


:That's just a regular Councillor, so I say not. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">g<sup>u</sup>e<sub>s</sub>t<sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">p<sub>e</sub>r<sup>s</sup>o<sub>n</sub>y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green"><sup>t</sup>h<sub>i</sub>n<sup>g</sup>y</font>]]'''<font color="purple"><sup>I too am an AI... my owner's name is [[User:RelentlessRecusant|Supreme Honcho.]]</sup></font> 04:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:That's just a regular Councillor, so I say not. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">g<sup>u</sup>e<sub>s</sub>t<sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">p<sub>e</sub>r<sup>s</sup>o<sub>n</sub>y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green"><sup>t</sup>h<sub>i</sub>n<sup>g</sup>y</font>]]'''<font color="purple"><sup>I too am an AI... my owner's name is [[User:RelentlessRecusant|Supreme Honcho.]]</sup></font> 04:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


Actually, that's the glitch. If you click on the image to relarge it, you can see it has Honor Guard attachments. --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] File:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 04:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, that's the glitch. If you click on the image to relarge it, you can see it has Honor Guard attachments. --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] [[Image:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] [[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |<sup>[BattleNet]</sup>]] 04:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


Nah, we already have that version up. I dont think we should upload all the different versions either since there are at least 12 combinations.
Nah, we already have that version up. I dont think we should upload all the different versions either since there are at least 12 combinations.
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==My HGC==
==My HGC==
Mine always comes up exactly the same, everytime I play the game. It's a Councillor with Honor Guard attachments, the Coucillor helmet and Half-Jaw's jaw. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 14:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Mine always comes up exactly the same, everytime I play the game. It's a Councillor with Honor Guard attachments, the Coucillor helmet and Half-Jaw's jaw. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 14:15, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:On my copy of Halo 2 vista, I've seen the elite with all three helmets on, its really quite interesting. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]]File:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 15:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:On my copy of Halo 2 vista, I've seen the elite with all three helmets on, its really quite interesting. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]][[Image:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 15:13, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
My Honor Guard Councillor doesn't have the helmet of the one on the screenshot of the article (See below). Anyboby knows why???  
My Honor Guard Councillor doesn't have the helmet of the one on the screenshot of the article (See below). Anyboby knows why???  
File:GravemindHonorGuardCouncillor.JPG|left|thumb|166px]]
[[Image:GravemindHonorGuardCouncillor.JPG|left|thumb|166px]]
User:Elite_Councillor_27
User:Elite_Councillor_27
18:58, 2 November 2007
18:58, 2 November 2007
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==Guess==
==Guess==
Ok if anybody notices on the level Gravemind that as you fight through the level you see lots of elites wearing honor guard armor somtimes without a helmet maybe those elites just took honor guard armor from a dead brute or elite and put it on for better protection. My guess is that the Honor Guard Councillor is just a Councillor Elite who put honor guard armor on for better protection but maybe it is a glitch.[[User:Yuhi33|Yuhi33]] 00:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok if anybody notices on the level Gravemind that as you fight through the level you see lots of elites wearing honor guard armor somtimes without a helmet maybe those elites just took honor guard armor from a dead brute or elite and put it on for better protection. My guess is that the Honor Guard Councillor is just a Councillor Elite who put honor guard armor on for better protection but maybe it is a glitch.[[User:Yuhi33|Yuhi33]] 00:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:Unlikely. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]]File:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 01:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:Unlikely. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]][[Image:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 01:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hardly think so. I believe the Elite you are talking about is the [[Honor Guard Ultra]]. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font> <font color="gray">23</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sub><small>[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=Blemo+23 <font color="A9A9A9">SERVICE RECORD</font>]</small></sub> 02:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I hardly think so. I believe the Elite you are talking about is the [[Honor Guard Ultra]]. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font> <font color="gray">23</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sub><small>[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=Blemo+23 <font color="A9A9A9">SERVICE RECORD</font>]</small></sub> 02:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


==This is odd==
==This is odd==
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Sounds like more evidence they just took stuff from Halopedia and didn't bother with real research. I'd regard the Halo Encyclopedia as a sketchy Halopedia substitute. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 11:09, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds like more evidence they just took stuff from Halopedia and didn't bother with real research. I'd regard the Halo Encyclopedia as a sketchy Halopedia substitute. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 11:09, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
I would really like to believe this is not canon.  But, like Halo: Reach, there are things that may seem non-canon but we just have to suck it up and believe it.  1st of all, if we say this is non-canon then we must say the same for the Flood Juggernaut (which I would like NOT to happen, as the Flood Juggernaut is so cool).  Okay now it's time for my REAL, fact provided defense: In the final Halo Wars cutscene we see SPARTANs -130, -042, and -092 (iirc) battling a group of Honor Guards that look like Minors.  Now, if you read my post (on I think it's the Halo: Reach page) you would see that we can't call something a retcon, artistic license, or non-canon just because we don't like it.  So, from this cutscene we see that there are... are... ranks within the Honor Guards (it hurts me just to propose this, because, as I said, I REALLY don't want this to be canon).  So if there are minors, why can't there be Ultras?  Or Councilors that have been specifically assigned to protect the Prophets?  As with the random armor?  Just a thing added by Bungie to make some diversity.  For example, I've seen Marines with random (not actually random armor pieces, but when I play a level there might be a normal marine, and I could restart the level and it would be a Major Marine) armor before, just because Bungie doesn't want the same thing over and over again.
P.S. I know this is a bump, but it's relevant and adds new information to the conversation.  So I believe it's an exception. [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  11:01, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
Guys, this is important to the article so I would appreciate it if you would respond. [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  16:38, 21 April 2011 (EDT)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If nobody responds I'm gonna start making changes to the article that no one (not even me) will like! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  19:19, 15 May 2011 (EDT)!
== Featured Article? ==
I propose we remove this as I featured article.  It may be good.  But Featured articles are supposed to be articles that say, "Hey, this is what happens when all the great minds on this Wiki come together to make something great!" We wouldn't want to give a newcomer a bad first impression that this is the best we got. [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  10:46, 14 April 2011 (EDT)!!!!!!!
==Fixed for 360?==
It seems that this glitch has been fixed for the Xbox 360. Every time i've played this level on the 360 (alot!) he has spawned with the Honor Guard Ultra body and standard Honor Guardsman helmet. Additionally in the changing of the Guard cutscene, an Honor Guard Ultra is seen relinquishing his helmet to a brute, but on closer inspection, the helmet he gives to the brute is red! So to me it seems like he's now an Honor Guard Ultra, but they didn't bother to make white Honor Guard helmets. Any ideas?--[[User talk:TK 234|One  who survived]] 11:08, 17 June 2012 (EDT)
== Canon ==
It was featured in the Halo Encyclopedia. Forgive me, i'm not too up to date on the technical aspects of Halo canon (even though I have been a fan for over 10 years) but does this mean the Honor Guard Councilor is canon now?[[User:Rprince418|Rprince418]] ([[User talk:Rprince418|talk]]) 17:14, 26 March 2014 (EDT)
:It is canon as long as it is not contradicted by a previously established source.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 10:47, 27 March 2014 (EDT)
And I've yet to see them mentioned in any higher source like books or games, so I guess by default they are canon. Cool, thanks![[User:Rprince418|Rprince418]] ([[User talk:Rprince418|talk]]) 12:12, 27 March 2014 (EDT)
:It is as canon as the [[scarab gun]]; both are not canon. They are content not meant to be taken as canon. Editors of the Encyclopaedia simply mistook them after much reference to the old Halopedia in '08. A glaring mistake, so you will. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:12, 27 March 2014 (EDT)

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