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==Covenant Planets?==
== Population ==
I know that High Charity is the moving capital of the Covenant, but are their any planets?  I know theirs a homeworld for every species...but does anyone have any idea what they are?--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 14:19, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:Not a clue.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 01:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:Hopefully [[Bungie]] will one day shed some light on this.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 05:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:There's [[Joyous Exultation]] in GoO. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 06:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


The ''Essential Visual Guide'' lists the population of High Charity as 23,831,346. But according to the Bestiarum, this refers to the total San'Shyuum population (hence the distinction between "at reseeding" and "currently") and not the whole of High Charity (which would obviously include numerous members of other species). Thus the Visual Guide's population figure should be considered erroneous, or referring only to the San'Shyuum living in the city. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:31, 3 September 2014 (EDT)
I think thats a ship {{unsigned|72.184.71.233}}
:I may be mistaken as to intent, but I think the interpretation of the content of the Bestiarum was not to imply the Prophet species numbered 23,831,346, but that it was indeed the total population of ''High Charity'' with all its constituent races. The world log off to the side of each page is referring to the population of each world, in this case ''High Charity'', as it's the only viable 'homeworld' to list for the Prophets now. So even though the page is about the San'Shyuumm, the population figure is for all of ''High Charity'', not just the Prophet portion. For example, we know there exists more Sangheili colonies than just their homeworld. The Bestiarum entry on the Elites refers to Sanghelios as a population of 8.135 billion. This is just the population of the planet, not just the Sangheili residents. Any Unggoy or Jiralhanae servants would be counted among that population number. There'd similarly be other Sangheili on other colonies that are not reflected in that number. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 20:36, 9 December 2014 (EST)
:If you are refering to High Charity, yes, that's stated in the article. If you mean Joyous Exultation, I highly believe it is stated to be a planet in the book. Please source the page number you are basing this upon. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 02:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::I did consider that, but then ''Contact Harvest'' states that there were "a little more than twenty million" San'Shyuum in the Covenant, which would nicely correlate with the Bestiarum's figure; since most of the Prophets are known to live in High Charity, this would make the population of other species in High Charity almost nonsensically small, particularly given the Unggoy practically own the lower districts. The point about the population figures referring to the worlds, not species, is valid for the most part, though the "Uncategorized"/Reclaimer entry uses Earth's "sudden change" population (or what was intended to be the remaining human population at the time) instead of that of Eridanus II, which the other stats refer to. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:07, 10 December 2014 (EST)
:::I can understand what you're saying. I guess all I can offer is that the Contact Harvest info and the Bestiarum info were known when the Visual Guide's value was decided. Perhaps the figures of the San'Shyuum numbers mentioned in Contact Harvest were era-dependent. How far back was that referenced. I can't check the novel at the moment. The High Charity figure would coincide with Halo 3, or 2552. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 06:54, 10 December 2014 (EST)
::::''Contact Harvest'' page 262 offers the following: ''"There were a little more than twenty million San'Shyuum in the Covenant. Not a very large number compared to the faith's billions of adherents. But it was significantly more than the thousand or so individuals who had fled the San'Shyuum's distant homeworld long ago."'' Since this is circa 2525 timeline-wise, there would inevitably be some change in their population in 27 years, if not anything dramatic. But if the population number was actually discussed during the creation of the Visual Guide, I trust you had your reasons. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:48, 11 December 2014 (EST)
::::I suppose the first assumption made was that the Bestiarum was correct in its value of ''High Charity'''s population as of 2552, presumably when the information was presented by whatever Forerunner AI that compiled it. I think that was the starting point and that all other info would have to conform in some fashion later. I still think it's fine to question this, but I'm confident that 343i could come up with some plausible scenarios to explain any perceived discrepancy. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 07:26, 11 December 2014 (EST)


== New Image? ==
well i know that the elites come from the planet Sanghelios but the rest i'll have to look into


Should we update this page with a new image from Anniversary[[User:Lord &#39;Themee|Lord &#39;Themee]] ([[User talk:Lord &#39;Themee|talk]]) 20:00, 29 November 2014 (EST)
==Flood base?==
:Do we have a decent image of High Charity? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 22:17, 3 December 2014 (EST)
It could be possible that the flood use High Charity as a base
::Not really. [[:File:H2A - Great Schism.jpg|This one]] isn't bad, but its eclipsed. Plus the battle going on overhead probably isn't helpful. We have [[:File:H2A Great Schism.png|these]] [[:File:H2A Terminals - Seeker of Truth.jpg|two]], but neither are really the focus of the image. There might be a decent one somewhere in the terminals or the new Blur cutscenes, but I haven't looked. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 22:42, 3 December 2014 (EST)
:::[https://cdn.artstation.rocks/p/assets/images/images/000/298/097/large/high_charity_10_copy.jpg?1415826885 This] would be a good one. [http://www.artstation.com/artwork/halo-2-anniversary From here].--[[User:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] ([[User talk:TDSpiral94|talk]]) 12:16, 4 December 2014 (EST)
::::While I'd prefer an image with a proper background and environment for context, it's indeed quite good. That portfolio seems to have more useful stuff as well. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 13:16, 4 December 2014 (EST)
:::::I agree with Jugus. It would be ideal to get one with a proper background, but I'm not entirely sure if that's possible. So this would be a good alternative. If no one else disagrees, I can upload it. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:15, 9 December 2014 (EST)
::::::Holy Cow, that is a good one. Lucky find there, I'd definitely use that as well.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 19:53, 9 December 2014 (EST)


==Italicization==
They Are.
I don't recall "High Charity" being italicized in any official media, whether from the Bungie days or from 343i. It seems we took to italicizing the name because the city is mobile, not unlike a giant ship. Any thoughts? --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 12:35, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
:Yeah, I agree. In most novels, ships are italicized but High Charity isn't. It's probably best to remove the italicization. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 12:41, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
:Yes, I think it should be changed. Like NightHammer said, High Charity isn't italicized in the books, and it isn't italicized in the Halo Waypoint universe article either. -- [[User:Topal the Pilot|'''Topal the Pilot''']] [[File:Blueteam.png|20px]] <small>([[User talk:Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Talk'''</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Contribs'''</span>]])</small> 19:08, 3 October 2015 (EDT)


==Mythos==
Is this confirmed, i know it says in the halo 3 that you enter high charity, but is it realy confirmed?? [[User:Campaign Obsessive|Campaign Obsessive]] 10:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Page 112 of ''Mythos'' has a layout of High Charity with several locations being marked, I cannot make heads or tails of these terms. Is it just me or did I miss several things? [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 00:41, 14 September 2016 (EDT)


Post them if you want help from people who do not own them. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 01:22, 14 September 2016 (EDT)
== Forerunner structure? ==


:Just my two cents.[[User:Lord Susto|<span style="color:orange">Lord Susto</span>]] 01:34, 14 September 2016 (EDT)
I think it is an abandoned forerunner cityship, and was found and taken over by the covenant who used it as a holy city due to its forerunner orgins.
:*'''Eye of Kel''' ([[Kel 'Darsam]]) - an observatory for San'shyuum priests? augurs were roman religious officials who observed birds and interpreted the will of gods.
:*'''Balustrade of Glory''' - some kind of balcony or deck. Im guessing Penumbra the Worthy is a notable covenant figure likely Sangheili. we can only wonder what the title of Haven Master actually means.
:*'''Lances of the Faithful''' - I get the impression it has something to do with plasma cannons.


::Susto - I was thinking the same thing about Eye of Kel, also Plaon's Gaze is taken from [[Janjur Qom]]'s [[Plaon|moon]]. Alertfiend - Top to bottom: Fount of Light, Plaon's Gaze, Skin of the First Worlds, Eye of Kel, Balustrade of Glory, Spires of Gifting, Spine of the Gods, Lances of the Faithful. The main thing is I don't know if these terms are referring to the sections they point to, Plaon's Gaze and Skin of the First Worlds both point to the dome of High Charity. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 01:48, 14 September 2016 (EDT)
: No information to confirm this so it isn't wiki-able. Until you can find a real source that confirms this, it is irrelevant to Halopedia. --[[User:Forgottenlord|Forgottenlord]] 05:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Eye of Kel is a large starship-sized airlock that allows ships access to the interior. I'm not as sure of the others to offer an opinion as yet, but if I find out more specifics I'll either edit or mention it here. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 12:53, 14 September 2016 (EDT)


==Let's change from ship infobox to megastructure infobox? ==
I think it is without a doubt a covenant structure. The Council chambers, Mausoleum, and Steps of Silence are to huge and to specific to Covenant society to be forerunner. The Keyship/Dreadnaught and the Two large stone wall within the council chambers are the only forerunner structures i've seen. [[User:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 19:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


Because it's an artificial planet, simplistic compared to the forerunner ones but it still counts.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 19:32, 16 September 2016 (EDT)
== Halo 3 ==


:Since it's mobile, one can just as easily categorize it as a really big ship. The ship infobox does a better job of conveying the information we have on High Charity than the megastructure one would, and it doesn't actually call it a ship at any point in any case, so I see no reason to change it. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 10:12, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
Didn't High Charity crash on The Ark? When it exploded, why didn't it destroy it?[[User:Royce|Royce]] 20:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


== Is High Charity the largest? ==
High Charity is one tough, Flood-Infested cookie. Having crashed into a frigate and then crashing onto an immense Forerunner structure, it survived it all. Seeing that most of the Covenant's technology is reverse engineered from the Forerunner's, its quite possible that High Charity is impervious to such damage. [[User:5748 PrimaryCipher|5748 PrimaryCipher]] 03:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


"High Charity is, so far, the largest non-Forerunner construct seen in the Halo franchise."
He meant why didn't The Ark detonae when High Charity exploded. I think High charity crashed somewhere within hte foundry in the centery, and if you looked at it, it wasn't exactly intact. Also, the core is the size of a halo. High Charity exploding might have destroyed a halo, but it probably only did a number on the ark. [[User:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 01:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


Would the star roads not be considered "constructs?" Certainly they were much larger. [[User:TheArb1ter117|TheArb1ter117]] ([[User talk:TheArb1ter117|talk]]) 02:00, August 22, 2019 (EDT)
== High Charity size ==
:The spirit of the sentence is certainly true, though you're right that the technicalities are less so. I'd probably say something along the lines of "largest construct seen outside of the Forerunner era", which gives a wide berth to cover the Forerunners, Ancient Humans, Precursors and whatever else gets thrown into the pot.[[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 06:56, August 22, 2019 (EDT)
 
I think High Charity has to be pretty larger than only 350 kilometers: look at it floating near Delta Halo, a 10000 kilometers diameter structure, it would be totally dwarfed by the ring if it was that large. My guess is that it has to be at least 600 kilometers in diameter, otherwise too small. [[Spirit of Fire]] 22.27 17 October 2007
 
== Power Source ==
I thought during Halo 2 when Prophet of Truth escaped in Forerunner Ship High Charity lost power.So how did the Flood give it power to slipspace to Earth and the Ark?[[User:Yuhi33|Yuhi33]] 17:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
The City was massive, its more then likely that it had its own power source while the dreadnaught powered the stardrive and slipspace capacitors. Cortana said she answered the Gravemind's questions. So I think that since the flood probably don't exactly requre central air and life support that the Gravemind used Cortana to re-route systems and repower the cities engines. Oh and did anyone else notice the Arbiter's Mausoleum and the what I assume was the Council Chambers in the distance?  [[User:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 02:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 
== High Charity ==
 
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