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| {{Forum page|Halo 5: Guardians (General)}} | | {{Center|The talk page is for discussing the content and layout of the article itself, not the subject. For speculative discussions, [[Forum:Halo 5 (General)|see here]].}} |
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| == Pro-John117 bias == | | ==Halo Xbox One== |
| This article has a clear pro John-117 bias and needs to be cleaned up.{{Unsigned|98.65.201.42}}
| | All the official sources, like Halo Waypoint, refer to this game as Halo Xbox One instead of Halo 5. Has anyone confirmed that it's called Halo 5? <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 18:32, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| :If you could please explain a little more, that would be great, because I fail to see how the article is "biased" in any way. After all, John-117 is sort of the main character of the game and entire series. His backstory between ''Halo 4'' and now is pretty central to the game too.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 16:24, 18 September 2015 (EDT)
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| ::John-117 is one of two main characters, as was the case with Halo 2, and in Reach there are arguably 6 main characters. There can be more than one main character but the article says he is the solitary protagonist alluding to Locke being somehow lesser or inferior in role when 343 have multiple times stated the opposite (they are even depicted as equals face to face on the '''cover art of the game'''){{Unsigned|98.65.201.42}}
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| :::No, it doesn't. The article states John-117 is the primary protagonist of the ''series'', not of the game. The next paragraph which is '''solely''' about Locke opens with the following: "Halo 5: Guardians also features another playable protagonist...". Sign your comments.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:46, 23 September 2015 (EDT)
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| == Vehicle position switching == | | :I can't reasonably seeing them calling the game anything else, but you're right. At no point has 343 ever used the title "Halo 5". Until they do, we should refrain from referring to it as such.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 19:17, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| | ::I agree. While Occam's Razor basically ''screams'' that the game is ''Halo 5'', we need to wait for confirmation. Until then, ''Halo Xbox One'' will have to suffice. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 19:29, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| | :::https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/344182593647964160 Link refers to it as Halo 5<font color="green">[[User:Rollersox|Death will follow you]]...</font><font color="blue" size="2"><sup>[[User talk:Rollersox|but you can survive]]</sup></font> 19:36, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
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| It appears from this [https://youtu.be/F6Xz2Ggn5tU?t=517 video] that it is possible to switch positions in a vehicle. Should we add this to the article? Thanks, --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 19:30, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
| | ::::A hashtag isn't an official title announcement. Besides, that thread wasn't even started by Xbox. That hashtag has existed for months as people speculate. I'll give the other users some time to comment before moving the page.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 19:48, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| :I added that fact a while ago.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:45, 7 October 2015 (EDT) | |
| ::Haha, my bad. Thanks! --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:58, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ==Spoilers==
| | :::::Even if I strongly think that this game is Halo 5, there is still no official information as it being called Halo 5 or being the second installment in the Reclaimer Trilogy, etc. But instead of immediately moving the page, maybe we should just wait for the next Bulletin or a press release from Halo Waypoint (something more than just the trailer). I'm pretty sure that 343 will confirm or deny it. Well, either that, or they don't know how to properly name a game / announce it. If this week's Bulletin doesn't clearly state that the game is Halo 5, then change it to Halo Xbox One or whatever. Or we may as well do it today, but it will possibly be changed again. '''Edit:''' Well it seems that even the Waypoint forum is called "Halo Xbox One"... This really doesn't make any sense to me. If it were Halo 5, why wouldn't they call it such? And if it were a spin-off set between H4 and H5, then why wouldn't they use a subtitle...[[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 20:01, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| I assume now that a bunch of a-holes are spoiling the game all over the internet we all are going to be extra vigilant to stop them here? I know I will be. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 20:55, 12 October 2015 (EDT) | |
| :The Administration team will be extra-vigilant for spoilers and will deal with them in accordance with the [[Halopedia:Spoiler policy|policy]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 21:53, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::It also may not hurt to lock pages of important characters and objects relating to the game until it is released. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:06, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :::I agree. We did the same thing with ''Halo 4'' if I remember right.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 22:16, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
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| | ::::::Just my two cents - [http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/detail/111609fe-d53c-4400-b4d6-44ae3629dda3/halo-xbox-one here] it says "The award-winning franchise continues on Xbox One, beginning in 2014. '''Final title''' to be announced at a later date." That may mean the title "Halo Xbox One" (and perhaps Halo 5) are just temporary/working titles, and aren't permanent. So just a heads up before moving the page to "Halo Xbox One", which IMO wouldn't make sense as a video game title especially for the Halo series.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:43, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
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| ==Team Majestic==
| | :::::::Well, since we know "Halo: Xbox One" is '''not''' going to be the actual title, I think "Halo 5" is our best option, unless we ''really'' want to change it to "Unnamed Halo game (2014)". [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| Have Team Majestic along with all of it's members been actually proved to appear in Halo 5? Besides the fact that Thorne was originally supposed to take Buck's place, all proofs I know, is a shot from "A Hero Reborn", in which someone noticed "Madsen" in a script, which we don't know even to be final and featured in game. It could also be just a mention. Is that enough to make an assumption? [[User:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] ([[User talk:PatrickRus|talk]]) 07:06, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
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| :I agree the brief shot of the script probably not enough proof of their presence. It's better to be safe than sorry, so I'm removing it for now. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:04, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ::Cleaned up Majestic's page, as well as it's members.[[User:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] ([[User talk:PatrickRus|talk]]) 10:11, 22 October 2015 (EDT)
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| ==Additional Characters==
| | Nobody's saying "Halo Xbox One" is going to be the final title. Odds are we'll move the page then move it right back when it's officially announced as Halo 5. But we don't get to call it Halo 5 until either 343 Industries or Microsoft call it that. That being said, what do we think sounds more appropriate for a title: "Halo Xbox One" or "Halo (Xbox One)"?--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 21:53, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| Aside from the mention of "Sloan" (his name is [[Governor Sloan]]), there's a few other AIs who joined the [[Created]] that should be listed. Those who joined in the scene where we had hundreds join are [[Cromwell]], Shipboard AI on the [[UNSC Melbourne's Pride]], [[Jiang]], the [[Colonial Administration Authority|Colonial Authority]] AI on [[Erdenet]], Rykers, and others. Should these be listed? I'm not sure how so, and of course the article is protected, so I can't do anything about it.[[User:Gregzilla|Gregzilla]] ([[User talk:Gregzilla|talk]]) 20:54, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
| | :Halo 5, definitely. Halo (Xbox One) leaves too much open for confusion[[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] ([[User talk:Ocean Soul|talk]]) 22:24, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
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| Honestly, I would think all but a few AIs joined Domana and the Created, such as Roland and Black-Box. It would be to much of a trouble to list all of them and unless someone gets a hold of the script for Halo 5, I would only go for the AIs that get subtitled. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 21:09, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
| | Whatever name we make up for this article will be just that, a made up name. Whether it's "Halo (Xbox One)" or Halo 5 we're still just making it up. I personally feel that Halo 5 is much more descriptive, as it implies a mainline game, as opposed to a spin-off like Spartan Assault. If you're going to say we can't call it Halo 5 until 343 calls it that, we can't really call it anything else either. Whatever we call it will be our own invention. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:47, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
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| The ones that got subtitled, in that case, are [[Cromwell]] and [[Jiang]]. Can those be added?[[User:Gregzilla|Gregzilla]] ([[User talk:Gregzilla|talk]]) 19:14, 30 October 2015 (EDT)
| | ==First appearances== |
| | | Why is the Forerunner machine listed as a first appearance? If it's a Seeker or a War sphinx it's not a first appearance. I think we should wait declaring this as such until we have some sort of confirmation. |
| ==Are we meant to recognize the [spoiler]== | | Similarly with the planet. It may be a first appearance. It may not.''We don't know'' --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 20:08, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| {{Hide|title=Legendary ending spoiler|Are we supposed to recognize the tune that Cortana is humming during the Legendary ending with the Halo? And for that matter, I'm just assuming it's Cortana, but I'm not certain. Anyway, someone told me that it's similar to some tune Guilty Spark has hummed before, but it doesn't sound familiar to me.}}[[User:Olanmills|olanmills]] ([[User talk:Olanmills|talk]]) 04:47, 21 December 2015 (EST)
| | :If it's confirmed as a War Sphinx, that tag would be removed, but this ''is'' the first appearance of a giant Promethean bird mech thing. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| | | ::Isn't it regardless the first appearance of such technology in the games?[[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] ([[User talk:Ocean Soul|talk]]) 22:21, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
| [[Préludes No. 4: Les sons et les parfums tournent dans l'air du soir|This is the piece you are looking for.]] -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:10, 21 December 2015 (EST)
| | :::Well, it would be in the games, but it was mentioned in the Greg Bear books. Does that count as a first appearance? --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:49, 10 June 2013 (EDT) |
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| Given the fact that the very small part Cortana hums can indeed be recognized as that same Debussy's song, can be also named in the "Plot Synopsis" section, replacing "Piano music"? There is another mention of the same Prélude in Ghosts of Onyx, also by Dr. Halsey, so I think it has background in-Universe. [[User:Jz60023|Jz60023]] ([[User talk:Jz60023|talk]]) 22:30, 2 April 2016 (EDT)jz60023
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| == When should we add a section for critical reception? ==
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| EVERY SINGLE reviewer said that the story was bad. They praised a lot of things but the story was deemed as bad by almost all reviewers: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/10/26/theres-a-huge-problem-with-these-halo-5-reviews-and-only-one-way-to-solve-it/#16c4a8483bf4
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| We should add a receptions section.
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| :Go ahead and add it, though our reception section for ''Halo 3'' doesn't even mention campaign and that bad story.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 17:23, 5 February 2016 (EST)
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| Every single is a incorrect statement a lot but not all. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 20:59, 5 February 2016 (EST)
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| :Actually every single major/official reviewer (IGN, Gamespot, Polygon, etc) in fact said that the story was bad, I have a source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/10/26/theres-a-huge-problem-with-these-halo-5-reviews-and-only-one-way-to-solve-it/#4a66c7c3bf4f | |
| :If you go to each review, you will see that the negative comments of the game all point to the story. That's their words, not mine.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 23:46, 12 May 2016 (EDT)
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| ::That is four out of hundreds of reviewers, I am not arguing against the campaign being bad, I am arguing the hyberbole [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 01:54, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
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| :::I meant major reviewer. There are hundreds of reviews, but only a portion of them are official companies that reviewed the game (Gamespot, IGN, Polygon, Guardian, Gametrailers, Escapist, etc). Anyway, if we add in the section, we can use this a source, it includes even the smaller review companies: http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/halo-5-guardians [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 06:59, 23 May 2016 (EDT)
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| == Why was the boxart image changed? ==
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| As far as I can tell this box image exists only on this website and does not resemble any official box. Seems like fan art. Getting ready to revert it back unless someone says otherwise.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 22:04, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
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| :I got it from Wal-Mart's website, and was the only box art I found to actually have the rating on the box.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 22:23, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
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| ::Ah, well it seems like this is something Wal-Mart adds themselves and isn't an official box. It's just modified Xbox 360 boxart now that I look at it. The official Xbox website has a version with the rating on it, so I'll put that one up.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:10, 16 March 2016 (EDT) | |
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| ==Marketing==
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| How would you guys feel if we split the marketing section into a new article: "Marketing of ''Halo 5: Guardians''". For reference: [[Wikipedia:Marketing of Halo 3|Wikipedia's marketing of ''Halo 3'']]. I feel like it would benefit the main article, as currently we have like over 20 subsections for different features of ''Halo 5'' marketing media and most of them are only a couple lines long. Instead, we can go into detail about the marketing in the new article, while still summarizing it in the main article. Any thoughts? --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 20:57, 11 June 2016 (EDT)
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| :That's probably a better solution, for this and other game articles with massive marketing sections. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:55, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
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| ==M6G Hologram==
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| Was fixing the appearances section a little and noticed that it said "M6G magnum (Forge Spawn Hologram only)". So you can spawn it in forge but as a hologram? Is this the pistol that the initial spawnpoints have or something? --[[User:Crisperstorm|Crisperstorm]] ([[User talk:Crisperstorm|talk]]) 00:08, 20 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :The Initial spawn points have the same hologram since Halo Reach. The EXACT SAME. So this means in a really technical level. The M6G and Mark V(B) appear in Halo 5.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2016 (EDT)
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| == List of Maps ==
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| Quick suggestion, would it be useful to list the "remixes" of multiplayer maps with an indent underneath the map they are a remix of? For example:
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| *Truth
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| **Regret
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| At present they're listed separately in the alphabetical list. Opinions? --<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC">[[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="red">LOMI</font>]] [[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="red">Speaketh</font>]]</span> 23:42, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
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