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== Symbol ==
== Symbol ==
Did anyone notice that if you look into the chieftain's eyes, the symbol of the arbiter is there? [[Special:Contributions/96.246.166.18|96.246.166.18]] 16:05, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
Did anyone notice that if you look into the chieftain's eyes, the symbol of the arbiter is there? [[Special:Contributions/96.246.166.18|96.246.166.18]] 16:05, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
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I'm not saying you are incorect, due to leaks its more than likely ,its just that for now I can't see how anyone on SoF would fit the summary, although I don't doubt they can pull of a good way to do it, I just hope its not hey why didn't you look for us. --[[User:GabeScott|GabeScott]] ([[User talk:GabeScott|talk]]) 17:31, 14 February 2014 (EST)
I'm not saying you are incorect, due to leaks its more than likely ,its just that for now I can't see how anyone on SoF would fit the summary, although I don't doubt they can pull of a good way to do it, I just hope its not hey why didn't you look for us. --[[User:GabeScott|GabeScott]] ([[User talk:GabeScott|talk]]) 17:31, 14 February 2014 (EST)


:Like I said earlier, 343i can make up anything as they've been doing already. They just have to make sure whatever they make up makes logical sense and fits the bill rather than just doing it for the sake of doing it.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:18, 18 February 2014 (EST)
:Like I said earlier, 343i can make up anything as they've been doing already. They just have to make sure whatever they make up makes logical sense and fits the bill rather than just [[Forum:Halo: Mortal_Dictata#Dr._Halsey_and_Lies:_A_Conspiracy_Theory|doing it for the sake of doing it]].--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:18, 18 February 2014 (EST)


[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=50966 Confirmed] to be the long-lost ''Spirit of Fire''.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 17:45, 18 February 2014 (EST)
[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=50966 Confirmed] to be the long-lost ''Spirit of Fire''.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 17:45, 18 February 2014 (EST)
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==Vata 'Gajat's faction==
==Vata 'Gajat's faction==
Issue 5 has made it clear that 'Gajat is no longer associated with the Covenant remnant. As such I feel that 'Gajat and his mercenaries are their own faction. Thoughts? [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 11:58, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
Issue 5 has made it clear that 'Gajat is no longer associated with the Covenant remnant. As such I feel that 'Gajat and his mercenaries are their own faction. Thoughts? [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 11:58, 23 April 2014 (EDT)


:I was wondering the same and was about to delete "covenant remnant" from the "battle of Ealen IV" page. Could they be called covenant mercinaries for now until we find out otherwise?--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:01, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
:I was wondering the same and was about to delete "covenant remnant" from the "battle of Ealen IV" page. Could they be called covenant mercinaries for now until we find out otherwise?--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:01, 23 April 2014 (EDT)


::Considering they are made up of the Covenant species and not one in particular I think "Covenant mercenaries" is an appropriate title. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 12:30, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
::Considering they are made up of the Covenant species and not one in particular I think "Covenant mercenaries" is an appropriate title. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 12:30, 23 April 2014 (EDT)


:::Kool. I went ahead and modified the "battle of Ealen IV" page.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:40, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
:::Kool. I went ahead and modified the "battle of Ealen IV" page.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:40, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
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::: "Mercenaries" implies warriors that fight for money. The covenant remnants that we have seen don't seem to have as much of an interest in money, as the do in Forerunners.{{unsigned|Weeping Angel}}
::: "Mercenaries" implies warriors that fight for money. The covenant remnants that we have seen don't seem to have as much of an interest in money, as the do in Forerunners.{{unsigned|Weeping Angel}}


:::Well as Zef 'Trahl said 'Gajat has discovered capitalism and prefers payment over religion. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 14:57, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
:::Well as Zef 'Trahl said 'Gajat has discovered capitalism and prefers payment over religion. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 14:57, 23 April 2014 (EDT)


:::Speaking of Zef, would you consider him an active collaborator to humanity, or merely an asset? My gut feeling is "asset" right now as he's not affiliated with the Arbiter (as far as we know), but he certainly seems to be more than willing to help us. One more thing, references to John Forge and the Shadow of Intent were made in Issue #5, should we include those as mentions? --[[User:Sangheili Ruler|Sangheili Ruler]] ([[User talk:Sangheili Ruler|talk]]) 18:15, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Speaking of Zef, would you consider him an active collaborator to humanity, or merely an asset? My gut feeling is "asset" right now as he's not affiliated with the Arbiter (as far as we know), but he certainly seems to be more than willing to help us. One more thing, references to John Forge and the Shadow of Intent were made in Issue #5, should we include those as mentions? --[[User:Sangheili Ruler|Sangheili Ruler]] ([[User talk:Sangheili Ruler|talk]]) 18:15, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
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:I suppose that's a good idea. Would this be applied to the other comics as well?[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 22:40, 18 June 2014 (EDT)
:I suppose that's a good idea. Would this be applied to the other comics as well?[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 22:40, 18 June 2014 (EDT)
:I agree, but I'm curious as to why we don't include an Appearances section that contains other features for novels. Anyway, I do agree that just featuring characters would be beneficial, since the Appearances list will, as you said, continue to grow and develop. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 23:07, 18 June 2014 (EDT)
::It's always good to be consistent, so I'm all for this.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:01, 19 June 2014 (EDT)
:Actually, I was wondering the same thing as NightHammer - why exactly ''don't'' we use full appearance lists for novels? It feels like one of those things that has just been around forever without anyone to ask why. I would, however, prefer if we implemented a more compact way to present the lists as they tend to take up a major portion of a page - maybe use a tabbox for each subsection? Other than that slight aesthetic gripe I would have no issue with using appearance lists for comic and novel pages, if just for informativeness' sake. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:20, 19 June 2014 (EDT)
::It's good that you two brought it up. <s>In fact, it was my plan all along! Mwahahaaha</s> Consistency promotes... well, consistency. For now, a long list makes it look cluttered and unorganised. However, as Jugus correctly pointed out, we could implement a more compact way in terms of presentation. We do have a working [[Template:Featurelist|template designed to deal with that]], but so far it has not been utilised at all since its creation. A tabbox wouldn't work since anything more than 6 tabs will just reduce the quality of the presentation for mobile users (unless you, for whatever reason, [http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/ purchased or make use of Samsung's new 2560x1440 LCD Galaxy 3 cellphone]).— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:35, 19 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Well, if it works then there's no problem. We might as well start replacing them (and making novel articles' lists actual complete appearance lists as opposed to just listing characters). One other thing: could we stop calling game articles' appearance lists "Features" and instead use the more consistent title "Appearances"? Things like saved films, vehicle boarding, armor abilities or dual wielding are features. A Grunt, plasma pistol or Jacob Keyes are not. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:32, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
::::Yes, I agree. Should we begin applying the template? - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 09:50, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
::::I also agree. This will ultimately make the book pages more consistent with the game and comic, game, and movie/commercial articles.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 12:49, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
:::::Use them away then. :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  15:44, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
::::::So having observed the template "in action", so to speak, what it does is basically generate a basic subsection heading with normal body text under that? No tabs or any other sort of code magic like that? If that's all it does (forgive me if I've missed something) wouldn't it be just as easy to make the subsections via normal means instead of this slightly more fancy way of doing it? --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:03, 22 June 2014 (EDT)
:::::::Could we steal and modify [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Template:App Wookieepedia's]? [[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 00:39, 22 June 2014 (EDT)
::::::::That would certainly save some space in the article, keeping length down. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:17, 22 June 2014 (EDT)
''(reset indent)'' Importing the App template from Wikipedia is not as simple as copying the entire content of the template. The template also receives additional elements from the wiki's CSS page. Mind you, I did consider importing that template back when we had [[Forum:Reformatting_feature_lists|an issue with the feature list]] but given the amount of content to copy and to modify, it is a bit too much for me to handle. Hence why I decided to create the Featurelist template, a simpler design with greater customisation options. The template features a "hide/show" function (though Jugus' comment has made it clear to me that the feature is not as apparent as I thought it would be). Futures updates would essentially make the template look and function similar to Wookieepedia's App template without the dependency on the wiki's CSS page. I just require more feedback from other users than myself to improve the template. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  06:24, 22 June 2014 (EDT)
:So, there has been an update on the template. In the near future, there ''might'' be a menu just like the Wookieepedia's App template. Would it be better for the list to be open or collapsed?— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:26, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::I'd say collapsed. Much less clutter on the page in its default state and people get what they're looking for with one click.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:34, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
:::I've placed an option instead. But it is collapsed by default. :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:40, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::::Now that it's in use, the template is looking great (exactly what we needed for these cumbersome appearance lists), except that the "edit" button only shows up for the first header (though you might already be aware of this). Could this be fixed so that either all or none of the headers have the edit button? Also, just as a minor visual gripe, could the "show/hide" button be made more clearly distinct from the "edit" one just so casual readers won't subconsciously mix the two up? Or, even better, have it replace the "edit" button right next to the header text so it's easier to associate the title and the button.  --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:11, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
:::::Fixed. As for the "show/hide", I'm not so sure how that's possible since the "hide/show" feature we're using [[mw:Manual:Collapsible_elements#jQuery.makeCollapsible|is in mediawiki core by default]]. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  15:45, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
::::::Fine. It's not really that big of a deal either way. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:53, 29 June 2014 (EDT)
== Individual Issues ==
Thanks to Monitor Chakas, we now have articles that summarise each individual issue. So I think it's safe to say that the synopsis section of this article and ''[[Halo: Initiation]]'' can be cut down significantly. Anyone agree?--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 18:57, 6 July 2014 (EDT)
:Agreed. A few days ago I had actually suggested to Subtank that we delete the older comic issue pages and add the info to the main page like we did for the newer ones. However, thanks to Monitor Chakas making the newer comic issue pages that's no longer really needed.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 19:17, 6 July 2014 (EDT)
:::I totally agree. I could take a look if required, the comic/novel section is my main editing ground. Please let me know. PS. Apologies for using Wikipedia as a source [[User:Spartacus|Spartacus]], I will keep that in mind in future. '''[[User:Monitor Chakas|<span style="color:blue">Monitor Chakas</span>]]''' <sup>'''([[User talk:Monitor Chakas|<span style="color:gray">Talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Monitor Chakas|<span style="color:gray">Contribs</span>]])'''</sup> 19:26, 6 July 2014 (EDT)
:To justify the existence of the separate pages, the issue-specific articles' summaries could now be expanded to be more detailed (as with the earlier comics), while the one in this article should be limited to the basic outline of the story. Otherwise we just have a set of extra articles with no additional information.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:31, 7 July 2014 (EDT)
== Need Citation for Issues 15 and 16, or remove ==
Someone added empty entries for supposed Issues 15 and 16. As far as I'm aware, only 14 issues have been announced. Is there a source that claims otherwise? If you search at Dark Horse, you will find that there are 16 product listings for Halo: Escalation. They are the 14 standard issues, a variant cover for Issue 1, and the Volume 1 compilation of Issues 1 - 6. There's no listing for an Issue 15 or 16. [[User:Olanmills|Olanmills]] ([[User talk:Olanmills|talk]]) 07:45, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
:I believe the source for the two extra issues is the official summary for issue 14, which says; "The thrilling sequel to Halo 4's Spartan Ops continues in this four-part story by Duffy Boudreau (BlackAcre, Bloodshot), and Sergio Ariño (Ms. Marvel)!" Exposure is a two part story which concludes with issue twelve, as such the four part story can only start from Issue 13 and would therefore conclude in Issue 16.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 07:50, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

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