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...You know, another possibility could be that the Mk. V that we've seen in Reach (the whole suit, not just the armor pieces) is actually the Mk. V [B] (the privatized variant made for the SPARTAN-IIIs), and what we're seeing in Halo: Anniversary is the straight-up Mk. V [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 00:17, 19 June 2011 (EDT) | ...You know, another possibility could be that the Mk. V that we've seen in Reach (the whole suit, not just the armor pieces) is actually the Mk. V [B] (the privatized variant made for the SPARTAN-IIIs), and what we're seeing in Halo: Anniversary is the straight-up Mk. V [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 00:17, 19 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
:I don't think so, because such an important piece of info would be mentioned somewhere. Also, it's not really common for there to be a privatized variant of an entire suit. Jorge uses the same base suit as the rest of Noble team, so a special Spartan-III private Mk V variant is out of the question. I honestly think that 343 wanted to keep the suit like the original in order to preserve John's image. The Mk V in Halo: Reach is a sort of redux made to bring the old Mk V into a new, grittier light. If John used the Reach model for Mk V, it wouldn't feel right. However, I wish 343 would make it ''a little'' bit more like the Reach version just for canon and aesthetic reasons...-- | :I don't think so, because such an important piece of info would be mentioned somewhere. Also, it's not really common for there to be a privatized variant of an entire suit. Jorge uses the same base suit as the rest of Noble team, so a special Spartan-III private Mk V variant is out of the question. I honestly think that 343 wanted to keep the suit like the original in order to preserve John's image. The Mk V in Halo: Reach is a sort of redux made to bring the old Mk V into a new, grittier light. If John used the Reach model for Mk V, it wouldn't feel right. However, I wish 343 would make it ''a little'' bit more like the Reach version just for canon and aesthetic reasons...--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 14:14, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Well, it has since been revealed that the Mk. V seen in Reach is the Mk V Issue 1, which did not have AI housing, and the one the Chief uses is the Mk. V Issue 2, which did. Hope this cleared things up. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 14:34, 7 November 2011 (EST) | ::Well, it has since been revealed that the Mk. V seen in Reach is the Mk V Issue 1, which did not have AI housing, and the one the Chief uses is the Mk. V Issue 2, which did. Hope this cleared things up. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 14:34, 7 November 2011 (EST) | ||
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will anyone but this it seems like campaign and new maps for reach which will likely be released as dlc later on?butthead4 | will anyone but this it seems like campaign and new maps for reach which will likely be released as dlc later on?butthead4 | ||
:According to Frankie, each level will have one Terminal to be found, and that these will be relatively easy to find and won't result in being killed while viewing it by nearby enemies. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:21, 14 June 2011 (EDT) | :According to Frankie, each level will have one Terminal to be found, and that these will be relatively easy to find and won't result in being killed while viewing it by nearby enemies. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:21, 14 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
:What the hell is butthead4 trying to say? --[[User talk:Felix-119|Felix-119]] 14:46, 16 June 2011 (EDT) | :What the hell is butthead4 trying to say? --[[User talk:Felix-119|Felix-119]] 14:46, 16 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
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:{{Quote|Terminals debuted in Halo 3, it was text, it was a little difficult to find. So we're going to make the Terminals more accessible, they will be easier for people to find and we're going to use them to tell a story of the Halo ring, and if you find them all you may find that we've laid down some foundation for the other Halo game we talked about today.|Dan Ayoub}} | :{{Quote|Terminals debuted in Halo 3, it was text, it was a little difficult to find. So we're going to make the Terminals more accessible, they will be easier for people to find and we're going to use them to tell a story of the Halo ring, and if you find them all you may find that we've laid down some foundation for the other Halo game we talked about today.|Dan Ayoub}} | ||
-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:28, 18 June 2011 (EDT) | -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:28, 18 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
thanks!--[[User talk:Bdgroot-117|Bdgroot-117]] 16:53, 24 June 2011 (EDT) | thanks!--[[User talk:Bdgroot-117|Bdgroot-117]] 16:53, 24 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
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== BOB Zealot? == | == BOB Zealot? == | ||
I saw the picture at the bottom of the article. Its description was a BOB Zealot. Why the hell is it a BOB? Just because it has white armor? I don't get it.[[File: | I saw the picture at the bottom of the article. Its description was a BOB Zealot. Why the hell is it a BOB? Just because it has white armor? I don't get it.[[File:Halo CE T&R.PNG|thumb|right|Zealot "BOB"|300px]] Whoops forgot to sign it. [[User:Themrhalo007|<span style="color:DarkSlateGrey">Themrhalo007</span>]][[File:WORT WORT WORT.jpg|38px]][[File:TrapLARGE.jpg|38px]] 21:06, 9 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Yes. Zealots do not have white armour. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 3 July 2011 (EDT) | :Yes. Zealots do not have white armour. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:56, 3 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
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No, it;s not a zealot, if you noticed the armor is being used differently from Reach, that is one of the invisible guys you fight throughout that mission, He also has no shields like they do. {{Unsigned|ArchedThunder}} | No, it;s not a zealot, if you noticed the armor is being used differently from Reach, that is one of the invisible guys you fight throughout that mission, He also has no shields like they do. {{Unsigned|ArchedThunder}} | ||
:What are you talking about? Its not an invisible one. Just watch this video. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4riEgcaebw&feature=player_detailpage#t=457s 7:37] Now did you see that Golden elite with the energy sword. '''THAT''' was the Zealot. And did you see another Elite with an energy sword? No. And why you think he has no shields, idk. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1J3z_2Uep8&feature=player_detailpage#t=55s Clearly he lives though a needle combine!] [[User:Themrhalo007|<span style="color:DarkSlateGrey">Themrhalo007</span>]] 15:39, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | :What are you talking about? Its not an invisible one. Just watch this video. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4riEgcaebw&feature=player_detailpage#t=457s 7:37] Now did you see that Golden elite with the energy sword. '''THAT''' was the Zealot. And did you see another Elite with an energy sword? No. And why you think he has no shields, idk. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1J3z_2Uep8&feature=player_detailpage#t=55s Clearly he lives though a needle combine!] [[User:Themrhalo007|<span style="color:DarkSlateGrey">Themrhalo007</span>]][[File:WORT WORT WORT.jpg|38px]][[File:TrapLARGE.jpg|38px]] 15:39, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Please sign your comments [[User:Halofan1234|PRESIDENT]][[User talk:Halofan1234|1234]] 19:18, 4 July 2011 (EDT) | :Please sign your comments [[User:Halofan1234|PRESIDENT]][[User talk:Halofan1234|1234]] 19:18, 4 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
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Is Halo: CE Anniversary going to be a standalone retail game or DLC for Halo: Reach? even after reading the article through several times, i still don't get it. [[Special:Contributions/24.60.143.195|24.60.143.195]] 02:56, 19 July 2011 (EDT) | Is Halo: CE Anniversary going to be a standalone retail game or DLC for Halo: Reach? even after reading the article through several times, i still don't get it. [[Special:Contributions/24.60.143.195|24.60.143.195]] 02:56, 19 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:It's a standalone retail release, built using the Reach engine, but including Reach multiplayer and seven exclusive maps, like Halo 3: ODST being packaged with the Halo 3 multiplayer. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:12, 19 July 2011 (EDT) | :It's a standalone retail release, built using the Reach engine, but including Reach multiplayer and seven exclusive maps, like Halo 3: ODST being packaged with the Halo 3 multiplayer. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:12, 19 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
It's not on the Reach engine -ArchedThunder | It's not on the Reach engine -ArchedThunder | ||
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::I didn't think it every actually called the gold Elites in CE Zealots. I wrote a big thing about this on the General talk page, but basically the way I see it is the gold Elites are Generals, not Zealots. Zealots act as strike team, but Generals are tough bosses who guard locations, like in CE. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:49, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | ::I didn't think it every actually called the gold Elites in CE Zealots. I wrote a big thing about this on the General talk page, but basically the way I see it is the gold Elites are Generals, not Zealots. Zealots act as strike team, but Generals are tough bosses who guard locations, like in CE. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 03:49, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::I think a bigger issue is the backwards retconning of things. They're using a remastered Mark V model instead of the one in Reach as well as using weapon models more similar to those in CE. All the while mixing in models FROM Reach like the Pelicans, Marines, enemies, and such.-- | :::I think a bigger issue is the backwards retconning of things. They're using a remastered Mark V model instead of the one in Reach as well as using weapon models more similar to those in CE. All the while mixing in models FROM Reach like the Pelicans, Marines, enemies, and such.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 16:28, 2 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Any changes will be purely asthetic and will only create minor breaches in cannon. Who really cares if the remodeled pelican has a vent on it where there wasn't one in the original? It won't matter, and any differences could be explained by them being just a "variant" of the original. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 17:48, 2 August 2011 (EDT) | :Any changes will be purely asthetic and will only create minor breaches in cannon. Who really cares if the remodeled pelican has a vent on it where there wasn't one in the original? It won't matter, and any differences could be explained by them being just a "variant" of the original. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 17:48, 2 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
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In a recent update to the article, it states that Theater mode won't be available for the Campaign or Co-Op which is a major disappoint since the remastered graphics have so much to offer. Hopefully, they decide to change their minds at the last minute and reincorporate it into the game for campaign. --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 12:43, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | In a recent update to the article, it states that Theater mode won't be available for the Campaign or Co-Op which is a major disappoint since the remastered graphics have so much to offer. Hopefully, they decide to change their minds at the last minute and reincorporate it into the game for campaign. --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 12:43, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:The game has gone gold, and mass production is under way. There will be no Theater in Campaign. - | :The game has gone gold, and mass production is under way. There will be no Theater in Campaign. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="green">('''Talk''')</font>]] 16:14, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
The reason is because Bungie had to cheat a lot during the development of the original Combat Evolved to give the illusion of certain things, leading to deliberate glitches like "Floating Assault Rifle Glitch". Theater mode would make all of these too apparent. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:30, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | The reason is because Bungie had to cheat a lot during the development of the original Combat Evolved to give the illusion of certain things, leading to deliberate glitches like "Floating Assault Rifle Glitch". Theater mode would make all of these too apparent. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:30, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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:And they still do it in all Halo titles. Start up [[Long Night of Solace (level)|LNoS]] and focus the camera to the Seraph crash... and you'll be amazed. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 16:57, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | :And they still do it in all Halo titles. Start up [[Long Night of Solace (level)|LNoS]] and focus the camera to the Seraph crash... and you'll be amazed. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 16:57, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
No, the best is Buck's "[[New Alexandria|secret mission]]", [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdCfVmTD4Bg a mission so secret it's like he disappeared!] [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:14, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | No, the best is Buck's "[[New Alexandria (level)|secret mission]]", [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdCfVmTD4Bg a mission so secret it's like he disappeared!] [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:14, 19 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
== Firefight map on Reach engine? == | == Firefight map on Reach engine? == | ||
Do we know if the Firefight map will be included with the second disc (if there is one) that has the Reach maps on it, or will it run off of the Anniversary engine on the main disc? The way the info was worded suggests the former.-- | Do we know if the Firefight map will be included with the second disc (if there is one) that has the Reach maps on it, or will it run off of the Anniversary engine on the main disc? The way the info was worded suggests the former.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 16:19, 2 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
:I heard that there's only one disc, and that it includes Reach multiplayer, but technically, Firefight is separate from Multiplayer, so it may not be included. I think that the matchmaking will have certain playlists from Reach that will let players play against players with the Reach disc, but have separate co-op playlists for this game's campaign, and no firefight playlists. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 21:26, 21 August 2011 (EDT) | :I heard that there's only one disc, and that it includes Reach multiplayer, but technically, Firefight is separate from Multiplayer, so it may not be included. I think that the matchmaking will have certain playlists from Reach that will let players play against players with the Reach disc, but have separate co-op playlists for this game's campaign, and no firefight playlists. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 21:26, 21 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
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::Gamestop is the only retailer that offers preorder bonuses for ''Anniversary'', so I bought my copy there. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 10:11, 6 October 2011 (EDT) | ::Gamestop is the only retailer that offers preorder bonuses for ''Anniversary'', so I bought my copy there. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 10:11, 6 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
::: Not true, [http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Combat-Evolved-Anniversary-Xbox-360/dp/B0050SYY5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317934528&sr=8-1 Amazon], [http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Halo%3A+Combat+Evolved+Anniversary+-+Xbox+360/2856517.p?id=1218358283362&skuId=2856517&st=Halo:%20Combat%20Evolved%20Anniversary&lp=1&cp=1 Best Buy], and [http://www.walmart.com/ip/Halo-Combat-Evolved-Anniversary-w-Preorder-Code-Bonus-10-eGift-Card-Xbox-360/17326440 Wal-marts] all offer the Grunt Funeral Skull and Mark V MJOLNIR armor for Avatars. [[Second Lieutenant|<font color="blue">Second Lieutenant </font>]] [[User:Masterchief46517|<font color="blue">Keith Johnson</font>]] | ::: Not true, [http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Combat-Evolved-Anniversary-Xbox-360/dp/B0050SYY5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317934528&sr=8-1 Amazon], [http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Halo%3A+Combat+Evolved+Anniversary+-+Xbox+360/2856517.p?id=1218358283362&skuId=2856517&st=Halo:%20Combat%20Evolved%20Anniversary&lp=1&cp=1 Best Buy], and [http://www.walmart.com/ip/Halo-Combat-Evolved-Anniversary-w-Preorder-Code-Bonus-10-eGift-Card-Xbox-360/17326440 Wal-marts] all offer the Grunt Funeral Skull and Mark V MJOLNIR armor for Avatars. [[Second Lieutenant|<font color="blue">Second Lieutenant </font>]] [[User:Masterchief46517|<font color="blue">Keith Johnson</font>]] [[Image:7thHelljumpers.jpg|20px]] <sup>[[User talk:Masterchief46517|<font color="blue">com link</font>]]</sup> 17:05, 6 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
== Campaign Recorder == | == Campaign Recorder == | ||
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2nd most likely CEA as its newer and therefore is more reliable than older canon. <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Verdana;">[[User:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#536872;">Bush</span><span style="color:#5F9EA0;">Wookie</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#91A3B0;">Camper</span>]]</sup></span> 03:17, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | 2nd most likely CEA as its newer and therefore is more reliable than older canon. <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Verdana;">[[User:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#536872;">Bush</span><span style="color:#5F9EA0;">Wookie</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#91A3B0;">Camper</span>]]</sup></span> 03:17, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:''Anniversary'' canon trumps ''Combat Evolved'' canon visually. The story is exactly the same, so there's no superior canon there. - | :''Anniversary'' canon trumps ''Combat Evolved'' canon visually. The story is exactly the same, so there's no superior canon there. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="green">('''Talk''')</font>]] 08:31, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
I was under the impression they are concurrent. The reason I say this is because ''nothing'' has changed. The MA5 still looks like an MA5. The Pelican is still a Pelican with no changes. They are just of higher quality with extremely minor technical changes. Why can't we use both? Now obviously, since the Anniversary graphics will be better, we'll prefer those pictures. But still. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 09:51, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | I was under the impression they are concurrent. The reason I say this is because ''nothing'' has changed. The MA5 still looks like an MA5. The Pelican is still a Pelican with no changes. They are just of higher quality with extremely minor technical changes. Why can't we use both? Now obviously, since the Anniversary graphics will be better, we'll prefer those pictures. But still. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 09:51, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Exactly, ''Anniversary'' looks better, so images from it will be used over images from ''Combat Evolved''. - | :Exactly, ''Anniversary'' looks better, so images from it will be used over images from ''Combat Evolved''. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="green">('''Talk''')</font>]] 09:56, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:How about the M90 shotgun? It has the same skin as the M45 from ''Reach''. Should we ignore it, right? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|Tank beats]] [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Everything!]])</sub> 10:04, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | :How about the M90 shotgun? It has the same skin as the M45 from ''Reach''. Should we ignore it, right? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|Tank beats]] [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Everything!]])</sub> 10:04, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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::I just read it again and... hell I don't know. I think I'm wrong. I hate when that happens. Can't we just wait until the game comes out before we go and make any decisions about how to manage the cannon? We know very little, after all, and it comes out in less than a month now. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:24, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ::I just read it again and... hell I don't know. I think I'm wrong. I hate when that happens. Can't we just wait until the game comes out before we go and make any decisions about how to manage the cannon? We know very little, after all, and it comes out in less than a month now. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:24, 22 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
And don't forget the the SPARTANs equipment lockers were destroyed, so we won't be seeing any of those, then. Vegerot goes RAWR! | And don't forget the the SPARTANs equipment lockers were destroyed, so we won't be seeing any of those, then. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 23:45, 22 October 2011 (EDT)! | ||
Does it really matter which shotgun they use? Maybe they have both types onboard. I don't think there will be some time travel paradox because the Chief picked up a different type of shotgun. I'm wondering about the Covenant looks affecting canon, since the Zealots aren't gold anymore, and that was a major thing in canon. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 09:59, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | Does it really matter which shotgun they use? Maybe they have both types onboard. I don't think there will be some time travel paradox because the Chief picked up a different type of shotgun. I'm wondering about the Covenant looks affecting canon, since the Zealots aren't gold anymore, and that was a major thing in canon. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 09:59, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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Why do people always make such a big deal over minor visual changes? It doesn't mess with canon if certain weapons get a bit more detailed or get some minor aesthetic change that in no way affects the story or anything. Just appreciate the fact that they're making a remastered Halo: CE instead of whining about how weapons look slightly different. --[[User talk:LeeUnit92|LeeUnit92]] 16:16, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | Why do people always make such a big deal over minor visual changes? It doesn't mess with canon if certain weapons get a bit more detailed or get some minor aesthetic change that in no way affects the story or anything. Just appreciate the fact that they're making a remastered Halo: CE instead of whining about how weapons look slightly different. --[[User talk:LeeUnit92|LeeUnit92]] 16:16, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Agreed. It's not as if they're creating a ''new'' game, they're remastering an old game with a new skin. What did we expect? The majority of their team is probably crunching away on Halo 4, trying to deliver us new hotness. Using old, slightly modified skins saved time and effort, especially time, and allows the real effort to go into the level redesigns. How long did they spend reiterating on the Chief's model? Do we really want that time spent making sure the M6D or the M90 or the MA5B is absolutely canonically perfect? If it comes down to it, then the new game takes priority - it's owned by the current license holders, and is the newer version with updated and supplemental materials. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 16:27, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | :Agreed. It's not as if they're creating a ''new'' game, they're remastering an old game with a new skin. What did we expect? The majority of their team is probably crunching away on Halo 4, trying to deliver us new hotness. Using old, slightly modified skins saved time and effort, especially time, and allows the real effort to go into the level redesigns. How long did they spend reiterating on the Chief's model? Do we really want that time spent making sure the M6D or the M90 or the MA5B is absolutely canonically perfect? If it comes down to it, then the new game takes priority - it's owned by the current license holders, and is the newer version with updated and supplemental materials. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 16:27, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
::From what I've seen, every one of those weapons ''is'' canonically perfect. See [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiULVRFIikw here]. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 16:31, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ::From what I've seen, every one of those weapons ''is'' canonically perfect. See [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiULVRFIikw here]. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 16:31, 23 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::So far the only thing that changes is the M90A is replaced by the M45E, as all of the M90As were taken by the Spartans. Also, the MA5B and C are supposed to be visually identical, glad they got that right. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:32, 24 October 2011 (EDT) | :::So far the only thing that changes is the M90A is replaced by the M45E, as all of the M90As were taken by the Spartans. Also, the MA5B and C are supposed to be visually identical, glad they got that right. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 00:32, 24 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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== Ultimate Overwriting/retconing of Everything == | == Ultimate Overwriting/retconing of Everything == | ||
So just to make sure, this game will overwrite (retcon is a bad word, as most of it will remain the same) everything from the original, right? So if something happens one way in the original, and one way in Anniversary, then Anniversary will win, no? Vegerot goes RAWR! | So just to make sure, this game will overwrite (retcon is a bad word, as most of it will remain the same) everything from the original, right? So if something happens one way in the original, and one way in Anniversary, then Anniversary will win, no? Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 23:08, 30 October 2011 (EDT)! | ||
:Yes. 343i hold the IP, it's the newest game, ergo it's the higher-priority canon. From everything they've said, and from everything we've seen, though, I really do think that the use of the M45 shotgun instead of the M90 is the only major change. Obviously there's the terminals, and graphical updates, but otherwise it's meant to be utterly faithful. No "Greedo-shot-first" or blinking Ewoks here, no sir. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:01, 31 October 2011 (EDT) | :Yes. 343i hold the IP, it's the newest game, ergo it's the higher-priority canon. From everything they've said, and from everything we've seen, though, I really do think that the use of the M45 shotgun instead of the M90 is the only major change. Obviously there's the terminals, and graphical updates, but otherwise it's meant to be utterly faithful. No "Greedo-shot-first" or blinking Ewoks here, no sir. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:01, 31 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
No, what I'm saying is that everything in Anniversary replaces the original. So for example, that means that in canon perspective, the M90 never even WAS used on 04! Also, we would remove the thing on Cortana's page about her looking like that during the Battle of Installation 04, because those things are overwritten in Anniversary. Vegerot goes RAWR! | No, what I'm saying is that everything in Anniversary replaces the original. So for example, that means that in canon perspective, the M90 never even WAS used on 04! Also, we would remove the thing on Cortana's page about her looking like that during the Battle of Installation 04, because those things are overwritten in Anniversary. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 01:39, 31 October 2011 (EDT)! | ||
I don't know, I wouldn't totally say that the M90 Shotgun was never seen on Installation 04. For one, the novel ''Halo: The Flood'' says that they used the M90 on Alpha Halo. I know this because I happen to be reading it right now. Actually, more like the older novel, but I doubt that the author changed everything in the new edition, just like 343i changed everything in ''Halo Anniversary''. Sure there may be many grammar and punctuation corrections, and maybe a few changed sentences, maybe, ''maybe'' one or two paragraphs, but I don't think the article or small sections of the article should be completely changed or have anything omitted. Am I coming through, am I being understood completely? It just seems wrong to say that the M90 was not present and used on Alpha Halo, it's like saying it was never encountered until ''Halo 2'' and ''Halo 3''. But granted, I do however agree the M45 looks much more cool than the M90, but seems to me shares some similarities to the M90A of H2 and more specifically, H3. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:18, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | I don't know, I wouldn't totally say that the M90 Shotgun was never seen on Installation 04. For one, the novel ''Halo: The Flood'' says that they used the M90 on Alpha Halo. I know this because I happen to be reading it right now. Actually, more like the older novel, but I doubt that the author changed everything in the new edition, just like 343i changed everything in ''Halo Anniversary''. Sure there may be many grammar and punctuation corrections, and maybe a few changed sentences, maybe, ''maybe'' one or two paragraphs, but I don't think the article or small sections of the article should be completely changed or have anything omitted. Am I coming through, am I being understood completely? It just seems wrong to say that the M90 was not present and used on Alpha Halo, it's like saying it was never encountered until ''Halo 2'' and ''Halo 3''. But granted, I do however agree the M45 looks much more cool than the M90, but seems to me shares some similarities to the M90A of H2 and more specifically, H3. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:18, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | ||
Actually, either way it was first encountered in Halo: Reach. But I think that we should change the moments in which we say that it's the M90 and make it the M45. Vegerot goes RAWR! | Actually, either way it was first encountered in Halo: Reach. But I think that we should change the moments in which we say that it's the M90 and make it the M45. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 17:41, 31 October 2011 (EDT)! | ||
Maybe just so, but please bear in mind about the "alternating switch" key between different graphics engines plays a factor on this discussion, and also the article. By alternating between different graphics engines, the user "switches" between the M45E Tactical Shotgun and the M90 CAWS Shotgun. This can very easily wreak hell and havoc on this, making things very confusing, or maybe a little confusing. Either way, you may want to think about it. The past cannot be undone, nor should it be. Just a friendly word of advice. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 19:16, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | Maybe just so, but please bear in mind about the "alternating switch" key between different graphics engines plays a factor on this discussion, and also the article. By alternating between different graphics engines, the user "switches" between the M45E Tactical Shotgun and the M90 CAWS Shotgun. This can very easily wreak hell and havoc on this, making things very confusing, or maybe a little confusing. Either way, you may want to think about it. The past cannot be undone, nor should it be. Just a friendly word of advice. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 19:16, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | ||
No, what this means is that the shotgun we played with in CE was ACTUALLY the M45. Vegerot goes RAWR! | No, what this means is that the shotgun we played with in CE was ACTUALLY the M45. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 19:19, 31 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:No, the M90 still exists, and we used it in the original, that's just '''non-canon''' now. The M90 looks like the original one, and the M45 looks like the updated one, and they both exist. Also, saying there were ''no'' M90s on Alpha Halo would be like saying there were no M7s on Reach, the weapon selection in-game =/= the canon weapons used there, it's just a byproduct of how the game works. In "The Mona Lisa" we saw both MA5Bs and MA5Cs being used at the same time. In a similar fashion, it's doubtful '''all''' the M6s used on the POA on Alpha Halo were the D variant, as that's the officer's variant. Keyes would have one and a few others, but the majority would most likely have been Gs and Cs, there's just one M6 to represent them all, same goes for other weapons and games. Also, on another point, I'm in favour of saying only the improved graphics are canon, and switching to the old makes the visuals "non-canon". That might not be the best way to word it, but you all get what I mean. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:21, 11 November 2011 (EST) | :No, the M90 still exists, and we used it in the original, that's just '''non-canon''' now. The M90 looks like the original one, and the M45 looks like the updated one, and they both exist. Also, saying there were ''no'' M90s on Alpha Halo would be like saying there were no M7s on Reach, the weapon selection in-game =/= the canon weapons used there, it's just a byproduct of how the game works. In "The Mona Lisa" we saw both MA5Bs and MA5Cs being used at the same time. In a similar fashion, it's doubtful '''all''' the M6s used on the POA on Alpha Halo were the D variant, as that's the officer's variant. Keyes would have one and a few others, but the majority would most likely have been Gs and Cs, there's just one M6 to represent them all, same goes for other weapons and games. Also, on another point, I'm in favour of saying only the improved graphics are canon, and switching to the old makes the visuals "non-canon". That might not be the best way to word it, but you all get what I mean. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:21, 11 November 2011 (EST) | ||
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:The multiplayer within Anniversary is synonymous with Reach's. That means that everything from Halo: Reach will be in Halo: Anniversary. That includes weapons, the game modes, the armour abilities, the ability to play as a Sangheili, graphics, and audio. Kind of similar to [[Halo 3: Mythic|Halo 3's multiplayer being included within Halo 3: ODST]]. However, Halo: Anniversary's (Reach's) multiplayer will be included on one disc alone. Only Halo: Anniversary's campaign uses the original Halo's engine for gameplay purposes. It also includes a second engine which powers the updated graphics. | :The multiplayer within Anniversary is synonymous with Reach's. That means that everything from Halo: Reach will be in Halo: Anniversary. That includes weapons, the game modes, the armour abilities, the ability to play as a Sangheili, graphics, and audio. Kind of similar to [[Halo 3: Mythic|Halo 3's multiplayer being included within Halo 3: ODST]]. However, Halo: Anniversary's (Reach's) multiplayer will be included on one disc alone. Only Halo: Anniversary's campaign uses the original Halo's engine for gameplay purposes. It also includes a second engine which powers the updated graphics. | ||
:This decision to include Reach's multiplayer was done because 343i were not willing to split the online community between both games and to restrict time.--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] | :This decision to include Reach's multiplayer was done because 343i were not willing to split the online community between both games and to restrict time.--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] [[Image:Bruteface.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 10:14, 14 November 2011 (EST) | ||
I think that 343I should have include a few new covenant weapons in the campaign, to give it some extra tactical depth. Case in point. In the HCE level Halo, at the point where you rescue the marines on the hill over the beam emitter, I have never failed to rescue all of the marines, and only a very few times in all the times I played it (200+ at this point) has a single Covenant solder reached the top of the hill. This is due to the fact that with an SRS99S2-AM Sniper Rifle, I can mow them down with impunity without fear of counter snipers. Now if 343I were to add, say, 1-2 Jackals (on normal) or more (heroic and legendary) equiped with Carbines, Needle Rifles, or even Focus Rifles, it would force players to find a good sniping spot, and ensure that easy pickings are confined to Easy difficulty! --[[User talk:Sierra 109|Sierra 109]] 10:48, 14 November 2011 (EST) | I think that 343I should have include a few new covenant weapons in the campaign, to give it some extra tactical depth. Case in point. In the HCE level Halo, at the point where you rescue the marines on the hill over the beam emitter, I have never failed to rescue all of the marines, and only a very few times in all the times I played it (200+ at this point) has a single Covenant solder reached the top of the hill. This is due to the fact that with an SRS99S2-AM Sniper Rifle, I can mow them down with impunity without fear of counter snipers. Now if 343I were to add, say, 1-2 Jackals (on normal) or more (heroic and legendary) equiped with Carbines, Needle Rifles, or even Focus Rifles, it would force players to find a good sniping spot, and ensure that easy pickings are confined to Easy difficulty! --[[User talk:Sierra 109|Sierra 109]] 10:48, 14 November 2011 (EST) | ||
:This isn't a forum. We only discuss subjects which improve the quality of the article on an article's talk page. If you would like to share your opinion about a subject relating to Halo, please take it here.--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] | :This isn't a forum. We only discuss subjects which improve the quality of the article on an article's talk page. If you would like to share your opinion about a subject relating to Halo, please take it [[Forum:Index|here]].--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] [[Image:Bruteface.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 11:25, 14 November 2011 (EST) | ||
Okay, thanks. --[[User talk:Sierra 109|Sierra 109]] 11:39, 14 November 2011 (EST) | Okay, thanks. --[[User talk:Sierra 109|Sierra 109]] 11:39, 14 November 2011 (EST) | ||
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[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/critic-reviews Metacritic] | [http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/critic-reviews Metacritic] | ||
Well, it seem Anniversary has received some pretty positive reviews. So should we attempt to integrate these within the article and create a template displaying some of its scores?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] | Well, it seem Anniversary has received some pretty positive reviews. So should we attempt to integrate these within the article and create a template displaying some of its scores?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] [[Image:Bruteface.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 11:25, 14 November 2011 (EST) | ||
::I don't see why not. We have reviews for Halo 3 and other games. :) -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 17:26, 15 November 2011 (EST) | ::I don't see why not. We have reviews for Halo 3 and other games. :) -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 17:26, 15 November 2011 (EST) | ||
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Why no page for it?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.88.15|210.56.88.15]] 03:11, 16 November 2011 (EST) | Why no page for it?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.88.15|210.56.88.15]] 03:11, 16 November 2011 (EST) | ||
:[[Halo Living Monument|Here]].--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:cyan">光环的家伙1234</span>]] '''''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]''''' ''([[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:gold">Contribs</span>]])'' '''([[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:cyan">Edits</span>]])''' 14:42, 19 November 2011 (EST) | :[[Halo Living Monument|Here]].--'''''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:green">Commander</span>]]''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:cyan">光环的家伙1234</span>]] '''''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]''''' ''([[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:gold">Contribs</span>]])'' '''([[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:cyan">Edits</span>]])''' 14:42, 19 November 2011 (EST) | ||
== New Info == | == New Info == | ||
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:Nope.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 14:00, 23 November 2011 (EST) | :Nope.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 14:00, 23 November 2011 (EST) | ||
::Thank you. Now I do know for sure, and only from a trusted source: another well-informed Halopedian. I find Google search results to be sometimes unreliable. Though I must say, I am somewhat disappointed. But soon it won't matter. One day I will have my Xbox 360, and most of all the video games (Call of Duty games, MW2, MW3, & Black Ops), and of course every single ''Halo'' game in existence. Then things will be different for me as a Halopedian. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:11, 23 November 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330 | ::Thank you. Now I do know for sure, and only from a trusted source: another well-informed Halopedian. I find Google search results to be sometimes unreliable. Though I must say, I am somewhat disappointed. But soon it won't matter. One day I will have my Xbox 360, and most of all the video games (Call of Duty games, MW2, MW3, & Black Ops), and of course every single ''Halo'' game in existence. Then things will be different for me as a Halopedian. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:11, 23 November 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330 | ||
== Kinect Voice commands == | == Kinect Voice commands == | ||
Toyed around with the Kinect Voice commands, then started shouting random things. I started shouting random Pokemon attacks off the top of my head and found out that shouting "Lightning Bolt!" causes you to throw either a Fragmentation Grenade or Plasma Grenade (dependant on what you have selected), that causes the sound of thunder to emit from the grenade blast. It's well within reason that there are more quirks like these included in the Voice Command queue. -ChaseNetwork [[Special:Contributions/210.124.128.180|210.124.128.180]] 07:29, 24 November 2011 (EST) | Toyed around with the Kinect Voice commands, then started shouting random things. I started shouting random Pokemon attacks off the top of my head and found out that shouting "Lightning Bolt!" causes you to throw either a Fragmentation Grenade or Plasma Grenade (dependant on what you have selected), that causes the sound of thunder to emit from the grenade blast. It's well within reason that there are more quirks like these included in the Voice Command queue. -ChaseNetwork [[Special:Contributions/210.124.128.180|210.124.128.180]] 07:29, 24 November 2011 (EST) | ||