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==Mark IV==
==Mark IV==
The original Cyclops is called the HRUNTING Mark III. Logically, wouldn't this be a Mark IV or higher? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:10, 6 March 2012 (EST)
The original Cyclops is called the HRUNTING Mark III. Logically, wouldn't this be a Mark IV or higher? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:10, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Though logically since it's called Mark III, then there must have been two prototype iterations before that. Maybe the place where this is being constructed was abandoned long before the Human-Covenant War and they never finished the Mark II and chose instead to move on to the Mark III. Weird.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Though logically since it's called Mark III, then there must have been two prototype iterations before that. Maybe the place where this is being constructed was abandoned long before the Human-Covenant War and they never finished the Mark II and chose instead to move on to the Mark III. Weird.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:I thought of the same thing. Could it be that they "re-branded" the Mk. III exoskeleton as the Mark I Cyclops later on, somewhat like they introduced the Mark system to the MJOLNIR series? That, or what Spartacus said. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:31, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:I thought of the same thing. Could it be that they "re-branded" the Mk. III exoskeleton as the Mark I Cyclops later on, somewhat like they introduced the Mark system to the MJOLNIR series? That, or what Spartacus said. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:31, 6 March 2012 (EST)
::My guess would be your suggestion. Like the retroactive redesignation of the ORION soldiers as first-generation Spartans. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:40, 6 March 2012 (EST)
::My guess would be your suggestion. Like the retroactive redesignation of the ORION soldiers as first-generation Spartans. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:40, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:::Exactly. It stands to reason they abandoned the "Mark III" designation after they began developing the Cyclops as a new series of its own, despite its beginnings as an offshoot of the pre-MJOLNIR exoskeletons. Designating the second-generation Cyclops as Mark IV would've overlapped with the MJOLNIR family Mark system. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:17, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:::Exactly. It stands to reason they abandoned the "Mark III" designation after they began developing the Cyclops as a new series of its own, despite its beginnings as an offshoot of the pre-MJOLNIR exoskeletons. Designating the second-generation Cyclops as Mark IV would've overlapped with the MJOLNIR family Mark system. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:17, 6 March 2012 (EST)


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Judging by the SPARTANs running past it in the most recent trailer, the Mark II looks to be much larger than the Cyclops Mark I. Something to mention?--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 15:20, 6 March 2012 (EST)
Judging by the SPARTANs running past it in the most recent trailer, the Mark II looks to be much larger than the Cyclops Mark I. Something to mention?--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 15:20, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:Isn't it already mentioned? Quote from first paragraph: ''The Mark II is considerably larger than its predecessor, appearing to be about thirty feet tall.'' --'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 19:59, 12 August 2012 (EDT)


== Different variant of Cyclops Mark II? ==
== Different variant of Cyclops Mark II? ==
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:::::::::::Well, it certainly does belong somewhere, so it might as well be here ''for the time being''. What part of that do you not understand? Please just drop it. As soon as we have more information, it will either stay if it is confirmed to be a Cyclops, or if it isn't. Again, please just drop it. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 19:30, 9 August 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:::::::::::Well, it certainly does belong somewhere, so it might as well be here ''for the time being''. What part of that do you not understand? Please just drop it. As soon as we have more information, it will either stay if it is confirmed to be a Cyclops, or if it isn't. Again, please just drop it. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 19:30, 9 August 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330
::::::::::::Arched, how do you know it's not a Cyclops Mark II? You seem to be bashing everyone who thinks it ''could'' be, telling them they're incorrect. However you seem to be proclaiming yourself as correct by saying it isn't, even though you '''don't know''' if it isn't one. Please be patient, drop the issue, and wait for all to be revealed.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 20:18, 9 August 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::::Arched, how do you know it's not a Cyclops Mark II? You seem to be bashing everyone who thinks it ''could'' be, telling them they're incorrect. However you seem to be proclaiming yourself as correct by saying it isn't, even though you '''don't know''' if it isn't one. Please be patient, drop the issue, and wait for all to be revealed.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]'' <sup>('''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 20:18, 9 August 2012 (EDT)
==Mantis==
This article in Halo Destiny confirms that the name of the Cyclops Mark II is the Mantis and it will be playable in H4 campaign: [http://www.halodestiny.net/news-2184-mode-infection-flood-multijoueurs-scan-de-l-oxm-france.html#skip] {{Unsigned|Dr Mutran}}
No, the one on adrift is the Cyclops Mark II while the one in campaign is the Mantis. They are two different mechs like I have been saying all along.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 14:43, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
No the Mech in Adrift is the Mantis. You only have to compare the pictures to see that they are the exact same design (and teh Cyclops in Halo Wars is a completely different looking mech). Yes in early footage of Halo 4 it was called Cyclops II, but the probable reasoning for this is that at that time the development team had not come up with a name yet. [[User talk:VARGR|VARGR]] 13:43, 17 October 2012 (EDT)
They're very similar, but not the same - look closely at the photos of each vehicle, the Mantis has a differently-shaped missile pod and lighter overall build. [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 15:02, 17 October 2012 (EDT)
== Rename ==
Now that the latest Waypoint update has confirmed that both the campaign and multiplayer mechs are variants of the Mantis, the campaign model with a heavier payload and the multiplayer model having a lither one, we should merge this article into the Mantis page. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:13, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
===Support===
*{{Support}} - as per above. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:13, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
*<s>{{Support}} - I can't get on Meta Cafe, but did any 343 employee ever mention that the Mech in the middle of Adrift is a Cyclops? In [[Making Halo 4: First Look|''First Look'']], Brad Welch called it a "giant mech". Compare [[:File:H4 Mantis in Ragnarok.jpg|this image of the "Mantis"]] and [[:File:Cyclops mark II.jpg|this image of the "Cyclops"]], and you can see a similar set of weapons, a similar cockpit, with the most different part being the protrusion under the torso (bear in mind that the "Cyclops" is still under construction, and it is an early development screenshot). —<span style="font-family: Eurostile;">'''[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:#000;">SPARTAN</span>]][[User talk:Spartan331|<span style="color:#888;">331</span>]]'''</span> 21:39, 18 October 2012 (EDT)</s>
===Oppose===
*{{Oppose}} - ??? They were referring to two different variants of the "Mantis". Nothing was mentioned about the Cyclops Mk. II being one of those two variants.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 18:27, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
*{{Oppose}} - The Mantis variants are physically the same, and there was no mention of Cyclops Mark II as one of the variants. For me, the Cyclops Mark II was a AFV prototype that was never completed. --[[User talk:Dr Mutran|Dr Mutran]] 18:41, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
*{{Oppose}} - Got to agree with everyone here.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 13:51, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
===Comments===
I watched the Metacafe video and at '''4:26''' Frank O' Conner says ''"Cyclops Mark II"''. Nuff said...--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 05:08, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
:Alright thanks then. Where I live, we don't get any Metacafe. So much appreciated. Maybe Frankie was lying, or the Mantis was originally called the Cyclops Mark II like work-in-progress name... Nah, that would be silly.—<span style="font-family: Eurostile;">'''[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:#000;">SPARTAN</span>]][[User talk:Spartan331|<span style="color:#888;">331</span>]]'''</span> 06:06, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
::Is it a block on the website or something that you're experiencing? As far as Frankie goes, its too much of a mouthfull to change it to a Mantis afterwards. Also its not much of an importance to have some temporary code name; its more-so a level prop.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:36, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
== A Form of Jetpack? ==
On the back of this behemoth, there appears to be four thrusters. [[User talk:Missing Mandible|Missing Mandible]] 20:33, 21 November 2012 (EST)
==Page Name==
Any way we can shorten or condense the name for this and the Halo 4/5 mantis? I get that's it's title but I mean man is it ugly to look at with all the caps locks and stuff.{{Unsigned|Crisperstorm}}
:I believe we've tried several iterations but they don't seem to be consistent with the general naming conventions used. If you can propose a shorter name that is appropriate, we are all ears.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  05:09, 21 May 2017 (EDT)

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