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==Mark IV==
==Mark IV==
The original Cyclops is called the HRUNTING Mark III. Logically, wouldn't this be a Mark IV or higher? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:10, 6 March 2012 (EST)
The original Cyclops is called the HRUNTING Mark III. Logically, wouldn't this be a Mark IV or higher? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:10, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Though logically since it's called Mark III, then there must have been two prototype iterations before that. Maybe the place where this is being constructed was abandoned long before the Human-Covenant War and they never finished the Mark II and chose instead to move on to the Mark III. Weird.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Though logically since it's called Mark III, then there must have been two prototype iterations before that. Maybe the place where this is being constructed was abandoned long before the Human-Covenant War and they never finished the Mark II and chose instead to move on to the Mark III. Weird.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:I thought of the same thing. Could it be that they "re-branded" the Mk. III exoskeleton as the Mark I Cyclops later on, somewhat like they introduced the Mark system to the MJOLNIR series? That, or what Spartacus said. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:31, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:I thought of the same thing. Could it be that they "re-branded" the Mk. III exoskeleton as the Mark I Cyclops later on, somewhat like they introduced the Mark system to the MJOLNIR series? That, or what Spartacus said. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:31, 6 March 2012 (EST)
::My guess would be your suggestion. Like the retroactive redesignation of the ORION soldiers as first-generation Spartans. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:40, 6 March 2012 (EST)
::My guess would be your suggestion. Like the retroactive redesignation of the ORION soldiers as first-generation Spartans. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:40, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:::Exactly. It stands to reason they abandoned the "Mark III" designation after they began developing the Cyclops as a new series of its own, despite its beginnings as an offshoot of the pre-MJOLNIR exoskeletons. Designating the second-generation Cyclops as Mark IV would've overlapped with the MJOLNIR family Mark system. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:17, 6 March 2012 (EST)
:::Exactly. It stands to reason they abandoned the "Mark III" designation after they began developing the Cyclops as a new series of its own, despite its beginnings as an offshoot of the pre-MJOLNIR exoskeletons. Designating the second-generation Cyclops as Mark IV would've overlapped with the MJOLNIR family Mark system. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:17, 6 March 2012 (EST)


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==Mantis==
==Mantis==
This article in Halo Destiny confirms that the name of the Cyclops Mark II is the Mantis and it will be playable in H4 campaign: [http://www.halodestiny.net/news-2184-mode-infection-flood-multijoueurs-scan-de-l-oxm-france.html#skip] {{Unsigned|Dr Mutran}}
This article in Halo Destiny confirms that the name of the Cyclops Mark II is the Mantis and it will be playable in H4 campaign: [http://www.halodestiny.net/news-2184-mode-infection-flood-multijoueurs-scan-de-l-oxm-france.html#skip] {{Unsigned|‎Dr Mutran}}


No, the one on adrift is the Cyclops Mark II while the one in campaign is the Mantis. They are two different mechs like I have been saying all along.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 14:43, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
No, the one on adrift is the Cyclops Mark II while the one in campaign is the Mantis. They are two different mechs like I have been saying all along.[[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 14:43, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
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== Rename ==
== Rename ==
Now that the latest Waypoint update has confirmed that both the campaign and multiplayer mechs are variants of the Mantis, the campaign model with a heavier payload and the multiplayer model having a lither one, we should merge this article into the Mantis page. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:13, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
Now that the latest Waypoint update has confirmed that both the campaign and multiplayer mechs are variants of the Mantis, the campaign model with a heavier payload and the multiplayer model having a lither one, we should merge this article into the Mantis page. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:13, 18 October 2012 (EDT)


===Support===
===Support===
*{{Support}} - as per above. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[User:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:13, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
*{{Support}} - as per above. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:13, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
*<s>{{Support}} - I can't get on Meta Cafe, but did any 343 employee ever mention that the Mech in the middle of Adrift is a Cyclops? In [[Making Halo 4: First Look|''First Look'']], Brad Welch called it a "giant mech". Compare [[:File:H4 Mantis in Ragnarok.jpg|this image of the "Mantis"]] and [[:File:Cyclops mark II.jpg|this image of the "Cyclops"]], and you can see a similar set of weapons, a similar cockpit, with the most different part being the protrusion under the torso (bear in mind that the "Cyclops" is still under construction, and it is an early development screenshot). —<span style="font-family: Eurostile;">'''[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:#000;">SPARTAN</span>]][[User talk:Spartan331|<span style="color:#888;">331</span>]]'''</span> 21:39, 18 October 2012 (EDT)</s>
*<s>{{Support}} - I can't get on Meta Cafe, but did any 343 employee ever mention that the Mech in the middle of Adrift is a Cyclops? In [[Making Halo 4: First Look|''First Look'']], Brad Welch called it a "giant mech". Compare [[:File:H4 Mantis in Ragnarok.jpg|this image of the "Mantis"]] and [[:File:Cyclops mark II.jpg|this image of the "Cyclops"]], and you can see a similar set of weapons, a similar cockpit, with the most different part being the protrusion under the torso (bear in mind that the "Cyclops" is still under construction, and it is an early development screenshot). —<span style="font-family: Eurostile;">'''[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:#000;">SPARTAN</span>]][[User talk:Spartan331|<span style="color:#888;">331</span>]]'''</span> 21:39, 18 October 2012 (EDT)</s>
===Oppose===
===Oppose===

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